Bernie Sanders’ Political Revolution Is Gaining Ground

londonfog

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Not necessarily true, seeing as I've read of more than a few people that voted for Trump knowing that he was going to eliminate Obamacare, a program that saved their lives.
Explain that if you can, because I can't.
But I guess they would drink the Kool Aid for Donnie boy, simply to #MAGA.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/american-health-care-act-donald-trump-supporters-lose-out-obamacare-republican-bill-congress-paul-a7717961.html
That was self interest beating the fuck out of best interest. Trumpcucks
 

st0wandgrow

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not if you're scratch level like me.
Serious? The best golf I ever played was about a 10 handicap. I'd break 80 a few times a summer, but pretty consistently shoot in the low 80's with a shit round sprinkled in on occasion.

I have played sports most of my life. Golf was one of the most frustrating one out of all. I have learned that I can throw a fucking putter pretty fucking far. Get to the point where you just can't blame the club anymore :cry:
lol! Yeah, I've wrapped a few clubs around trees.

At least with other sports like football and hockey you can run someone over and vent your frustration. Nothing you can do about it in golf
 

Fogdog

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Yes, I agree with that.

Will you now agree that some people, while voting in their own self interest, voted against their own best interests when they voted for Hillary over Bernie in the primaries?

You gave me quite a bit of shit over that when I said it
I get what you are saying. And I don't know that I can agree.

It's not clear to me that Bernie would have been a good leader for everybody in this country. He just never seemed comfortable with people who weren't like him or their interests. By that I mean women's rights issues, and civil rights issues for African Americans and Hispanic Americans. In the choice between Clinton and Sanders, I can't see how Sanders matches up well in those areas.

If the choice were between Trump and Bernie, I'd totally agree.
 

UncleBuck

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My pops was pretty good. I tried for him, but I absolutely suck. I can drive but it ends there. I do have fun when out, but like I said the beers are the best part. Once I realized that I suck,I can enjoy the beers better :finger::grin:
i take myself a little too seriously out there and get too nervous on the first few holes. then the beer kicks in and i play relaxed and hit really good shots. beer and weed make me a better golfer.
 

UncleBuck

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Serious? The best golf I ever played was about a 10 handicap. I'd break 80 a few times a summer, but pretty consistently shoot in the low 80's with a shit round sprinkled in on occasion.



lol! Yeah, I've wrapped a few clubs around trees.

At least with other sports like football and hockey you can run someone over and vent your frustration. Nothing you can do about it in golf
my best round was 67, i've shot 69 in a tournament once, and shot under par on a course rated more than 4 shots over par on a couple of occasions. i can easily move a drive 315 at sea level, up to 375 here at elevation.
 

st0wandgrow

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I get what you are saying. And I don't know that I can agree.

It's not clear to me that Bernie would have been a good leader for everybody in this country. He just never seemed comfortable with people who weren't like him or their interests. By that I mean women's rights issues, and civil rights issues for African Americans and Hispanic Americans. In the choice between Clinton and Sanders, I can't see how Sanders matches up well in those areas.

If the choice were between Trump and Bernie, I'd totally agree.
I can't say for certain that Sanders would have been better regarding social justice issues. I don't know enough about that. What I'm referring to is financial issues like his pledge to raise the minimum wage to $15, Medicare for all, and tuition free public college. Those are easily quantifiable things that can be directly related to what would be in someone's best interests. Or better put, what would be in someone's best financial interests.

I can't very well tell someone that their financial interests are more important than other aspects of their lives though
 

schuylaar

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I get what you are saying. And I don't know that I can agree.

It's not clear to me that Bernie would have been a good leader for everybody in this country. He just never seemed comfortable with people who weren't like him or their interests. By that I mean women's rights issues, and civil rights issues for African Americans and Hispanic Americans. In the choice between Clinton and Sanders, I can't see how Sanders matches up well in those areas.

If the choice were between Trump and Bernie, I'd totally agree.
can you please cite clinton minority policy?

second request.
 

st0wandgrow

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my best round was 67, i've shot 69 in a tournament once, and shot under par on a course rated more than 4 shots over par on a couple of occasions. i can easily move a drive 315 at sea level, up to 375 here at elevation.
Damn, that's some good golf. A few heel wedges mixed in there? :lol:

I've had a couple rounds where I was sniffing par...but then I'd look at the score card around 14'th hole and my butt would pucker up.

It's all about mechanics and repetition. Hitting buckets of balls at the range is key to me playing respectable. Once the kids come along you just don't have that kind of time to dedicate to it. I'll be curious to see what you're shooting next summer when you're knee deep in shitty diapers and Dora the Explorer vids...
 

Fogdog

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I can't say for certain that Sanders would have been better regarding social justice issues. I don't know enough about that. What I'm referring to is financial issues like his pledge to raise the minimum wage to $15, Medicare for all, and tuition free public college. Those are easily quantifiable things that can be directly related to what would be in someone's best interests. Or better put, what would be in someone's best financial interests.

I can't very well tell someone that their financial interests are more important than other aspects of their lives though
As I've said many times before, I'm not black and not going to speak for their delegation. London said he couldn't support Sanders because of taxes. Do you think he voted against his best interest when he voted for Clinton?

I also think that civil rights issues rank higher than financial ones. Many of the financial disparities between minorities and white people are due to civil rights issues. I think racism and resultant civil rights issues are used to divide us which enables the 1% to prey on the 99%.
 

UncleBuck

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Damn, that's some good golf. A few heel wedges mixed in there? :lol:

I've had a couple rounds where I was sniffing par...but then I'd look at the score card around 14'th hole and my butt would pucker up.

It's all about mechanics and repetition. Hitting buckets of balls at the range is key to me playing respectable. Once the kids come along you just don't have that kind of time to dedicate to it. I'll be curious to see what you're shooting next summer when you're knee deep in shitty diapers and Dora the Explorer vids...
i can shoot those scores cold after not having played for months. mechanics and repetition are my enemies, it's all about feel and fluidity.
 

st0wandgrow

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i can shoot those scores cold after not having played for months. mechanics and repetition are my enemies, it's all about feel and fluidity.
Not me. Feel around the green is important for me, but getting off the tee box consistently requires repetition for me.

Getting ready for training camp always messed with my game too. Hitting the gym and bulking up did not lend itself well to the touch required in golf. I'd be gripping the shit out of my driver and pulling everything in to the woods.
 

Fogdog

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can you please cite clintons minority policy?

third request.
Might as well make multiple requests at once. You'll get to a hundred faster that way.

You answer me first, I asked you this question many times before:

Despite your butthurt over DNC bias towards Clinton, the reason she decisively beat him was because in the south, she overwhelmingly won the African American vote. Why did African Americans and Hispanic Americans give Clinton such a large proportion of their vote over Bernie?

8th request.
 

abandonconflict

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Yes, I agree with that.

Will you now agree that some people, while voting in their own self interest, voted against their own best interests when they voted for Hillary over Bernie in the primaries?

You gave me quite a bit of shit over that when I said it
No you fucking shit stain. You said black people voted against their own best interests because they're homophobic antisemites.
 
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