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pSi007 said:

There are many families who try to make ends meet at less than 28 hours per week.. Your ObamaCare is putting half of the work force on limited hours worked in order to avoid mandatory health coverage to it`s employees.

This ObamaCare is making a 28yo man and woman who work as waiters for 28 hours per week, pay a massive and mandatory health insurance plan when their jobs will not offer them.

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I get so tired of those who always, in every situation, hold companies blameless for their own actions when in fact it is not the government that cut employee's hours, it is the company that did so - Government is not forcing anyone to cut anyone else's hours. Of course those are the same people who believe, or claim to believe in personal responsiblility. They claim that it isn't the gun manufactures that cause an individual to shoot half a dozen people but they find a way to blame government for the actions of the individual business owners.

UncleBuck said:

WHY DO YOU HATE MY FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, BEAR?

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You confuse expression with format. You express yourself much more effectively when you do not disqualify your message with the clown suit.

schuylaar said:

as promised..here is an 80/20 GOLD Plan with $1750 deductible/$5000 out of pocket, completely subsidized by the ACA for $366.99..I don't have to pay a penny for it..i haven't selected dental yet since i need to talk to my dentist prior to final commitment but the plan i'm looking at is $10/month: View attachment 2880812 summary of benefits: http://www.coventryhealthcare.com/web/groups/public/@cvty_commoncontent/documents/webcontent/fl72600.pdf fuck florida blue and their $800 dollar policies..see? how this works boys?..coventry has to do the same things florida blue does yet they are willing to offer me a COMPETITIVE price for the same coverage..regulated, free enterprise!..when EVERYONE has to compete..WE WIN! Thank you, Mr. President!

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You're not competing. You're mooching. Sure you're happy with the policy you think you're getting, being as how some one else will have to pay for it, but it hardly free enterprise. You HAVE to get it and some one else HAS to pay for it. No freely entered contract there. And you still haven't gotten the policy yet anyway, have you?

canndo said:

I get so tired of those who always, in every situation, hold companies blameless for their own actions when in fact it is not the government that cut employee's hours, it is the company that did so - Government is not forcing anyone to cut anyone else's hours. Of course those are the same people who believe, or claim to believe in personal responsiblility. They claim that it isn't the gun manufactures that cause an individual to shoot half a dozen people but they find a way to blame government for the actions of the individual business owners.

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Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest employer, announced Monday that 35,000 part-time employees will soon be moved to full-time status, entitling them to the full healthcare benefits that were scheduled to be denied them as a result of Wal-Mart’s efforts to avoid the requirements of Obamacare.
While some analysts believe that the move comes as Wal-Mart is attempting to deal with the negative view many Americans have of its worker benefits program, a closer look reveals the real reason for the shift—
Wal-Mart’s business is going south due to the company’s penchant for putting politics and the squeeze on Wal-Mart employees ahead of the kind of customer satisfaction that produces prosperity over the long-term.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/09/25/wal-mart-returning-to-full-time-workers-obamacare-not-such-a-job-killer-after-all/

Winter Woman said:

Everyone who posts on here and is an American is paying for you. All it takes for you to get busted is for one of your neighbors or a friend that will eventually be an ex-friend to turn you in. A lawyer is way more expensive than the money you think you are saving. One problem you forgot - the IRS never sleeps.

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And if you don't have insurance, then everyone in your state will pay for anything you can't manage to pay yourself.

canndo said:

And if you don't have insurance, then everyone in your state will pay for anything you can't manage to pay yourself.

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ChesusRice said:

Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest employer, announced Monday that 35,000 part-time employees will soon be moved to full-time status, entitling them to the full healthcare benefits that were scheduled to be denied them as a result of Wal-Mart’s efforts to avoid the requirements of Obamacare.
While some analysts believe that the move comes as Wal-Mart is attempting to deal with the negative view many Americans have of its worker benefits program, a closer look reveals the real reason for the shift—
Wal-Mart’s business is going south due to the company’s penchant for putting politics and the squeeze on Wal-Mart employees ahead of the kind of customer satisfaction that produces prosperity over the long-term.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/09/25/wal-mart-returning-to-full-time-workers-obamacare-not-such-a-job-killer-after-all/

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I read estimates that range as high as a million dollars a month in community support for wallmart recently. They dictate tax breaks for themselves before they will consider going into a community, they have streets built for them, they cost better paying jobs as they help close down competition, and of couse we all know (or some of us annyway) that Wallmart considers state and federal government as essential to their program of percs for their employees. In short, we don't really save any money at all by buying at Wallmart.

Wallmart is essentialy a model of how this country operates now. surfdom and subsistance for the majority, power and property for the minority. The point is disparity on a scale not seen in this country since the guilded age, the only difference is now those who are most affected by that disparity have been convinced that it is all to their own advantage. Thanks FOX.

canndo said:

I get so tired of those who always, in every situation, hold companies blameless for their own actions when in fact it is not the government that cut employee's hours, it is the company that did so - Government is not forcing anyone to cut anyone else's hours. Of course those are the same people who believe, or claim to believe in personal responsiblility. They claim that it isn't the gun manufactures that cause an individual to shoot half a dozen people but they find a way to blame government for the actions of the individual business owners.

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If the government punishes a business for doing something (such as employing workers over 30 hours), government is coercing them to do the opposite (employing workers less than 30 hours). Gun manufacturers don't fine you for not killing people. Totally irrelevant.

ChesusRice said:

Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest employer, announced Monday that 35,000 part-time employees will soon be moved to full-time status, entitling them to the full healthcare benefits that were scheduled to be denied them as a result of Wal-Mart’s efforts to avoid the requirements of Obamacare. While some analysts believe that the move comes as Wal-Mart is attempting to deal with the negative view many Americans have of its worker benefits program, a closer look reveals the real reason for the shift— Wal-Mart’s business is going south due to the company’s penchant for putting politics and the squeeze on Wal-Mart employees ahead of the kind of customer satisfaction that produces prosperity over the long-term. http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/09/25/wal-mart-returning-to-full-time-workers-obamacare-not-such-a-job-killer-after-all/

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Funny, Wal-Marts around here seem more packed than ever. 35,000 is what, like 0.5 % of Wal-Mart's workforce?

pSi007 said:

You are committing fraud.. Is that the America and ObamaCare system you are talking about?

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Now this is an interesting argument. Schuylaar is lying because Schuylaar is being deprived by that state of somthing the Fed believes everyone in that state is entitled to. Yet the state has decided for purely political reasons to deprive all of its citizens of that benefit.


I think it is entirely possible that the fraud is balanced by the state's refusal to participate.

canndo said:

And if you don't have insurance, then everyone in your state will pay for anything you can't manage to pay yourself.

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Only if he goes to an emergency room. Everyone else will turn him away unless he can pay cash upfront.

canndo said:

Now this is an interesting argument. Schuylaar is lying because Schuylaar is being deprived by that state of somthing the Fed believes everyone in that state is entitled to. Yet the state has decided for purely political reasons to deprive all of its citizens of that benefit. I think it is entirely possible that the fraud is balanced by the state's refusal to participate.

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Not purely political. The extended medicaid is only partially funded by the Fed for a few years, then the states must pick up the entire tab for the vastly increased costs. States accepting the extended medicaid provisions will need to double their revenues in order to meet the added costs. Expect property, "sin", income, and other state taxes to go up.

Red1966 said:

Only if he goes to an emergency room. Everyone else will turn him away unless he can pay cash upfront.

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Yup.


Read a story in the LA times. Seems an indigent person checked himself into an ER. They "stabilized" him. Then they sent him on his way, only the guy didn't feel real good so he sat down on the steps outside the hospital. Where he died several days - DAYS later.


But you are correct, we will only have to share in the cost if the non-paying person goes to the ER. Well, unless they look like they are capable of paying, and then declare Bankruptcy, where..... we all get to pay even more.

Red1966 said:

Not purely political. The extended medicaid is only partially funded by the Fed for a few years, then the states must pick up the entire tab for the vastly increased costs. States accepting the extended medicaid provisions will need to double their revenues in order to meet the added costs. Expect property, "sin", income, and other state taxes to go up.

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I don't recall the states ever being mandated to pick up the entire bill.

canndo said:

I get so tired of those who always, in every situation, hold companies blameless for their own actions when in fact it is not the government that cut employee's hours, it is the company that did so - Government is not forcing anyone to cut anyone else's hours. Of course those are the same people who believe, or claim to believe in personal responsiblility. They claim that it isn't the gun manufactures that cause an individual to shoot half a dozen people but they find a way to blame government for the actions of the individual business owners.

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Business are for profit, even non-profit. Just thought you should know.

canndo said:

I get so tired of those who always, in every situation, hold companies blameless for their own actions when in fact it is not the government that cut employee's hours, it is the company that did so - Government is not forcing anyone to cut anyone else's hours. Of course those are the same people who believe, or claim to believe in personal responsiblility. They claim that it isn't the gun manufactures that cause an individual to shoot half a dozen people but they find a way to blame government for the actions of the individual business owners.

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canndo said:

Now this is an interesting argument. Schuylaar is lying because Schuylaar is being deprived by that state of somthing the Fed believes everyone in that state is entitled to. Yet the state has decided for purely political reasons to deprive all of its citizens of that benefit.


I think it is entirely possible that the fraud is balanced by the state's refusal to participate.

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Sorry about that last post. I had no idea you didn't live in reality.

canndo said:

I get so tired of those who always, in every situation, hold companies blameless for their own actions when in fact it is not the government that cut employee's hours, it is the company that did so - Government is not forcing anyone to cut anyone else's hours. Of course those are the same people who believe, or claim to believe in personal responsiblility. They claim that it isn't the gun manufactures that cause an individual to shoot half a dozen people but they find a way to blame government for the actions of the individual business owners.

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I can't believe you made this statement.

If a company feels that the government puts and undue burden on their ability to make a profit, you feel the business should go belly up to comply?

Where the hell did you come up with that logic?

canndo said:

Now this is an interesting argument. Schuylaar is lying because Schuylaar is being deprived by that state of somthing the Fed believes everyone in that state is entitled to. Yet the state has decided for purely political reasons to deprive all of its citizens of that benefit.


I think it is entirely possible that the fraud is balanced by the state's refusal to participate.

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Are you saying the 10th amendment doesn't apply here, if so, I belive the SCOTUS disagrees with you Canndo.

canndo said:

I don't recall the states ever being mandated to pick up the entire bill.

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Because it hasn't happened yet. Learn to read.

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canndo said:

Yup. Read a story in the LA times. Seems an indigent person checked himself into an ER. They "stabilized" him. Then they sent him on his way, only the guy didn't feel real good so he sat down on the steps outside the hospital. Where he died several days - DAYS later. But you are correct, we will only have to share in the cost if the non-paying person goes to the ER. Well, unless they look like they are capable of paying, and then declare Bankruptcy, where..... we all get to pay even more.

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I know this sounds cold, but the guy on the steps didn't cost us much.

canndo said:

I don't recall the states ever being mandated to pick up the entire bill.

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It's there. Remember the Supremes said the federal government couldn't force states to spend money for a federal program. That's why some states can still refuse the expanded medicaid.