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How many of you will purchase Health Insurance by 2016?

  • I currently have health insurance.

    Votes: 12 63.2%

  • I will not get health insurance because I cannot afford it, facing $695 or 2% income fine.

    Votes: 5 26.3%

  • My insurance plans have changed, I need to review my policy.

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Total voters
    19
pSi007

pSi007

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ChesusRice said:
www.obamacarefacts.com
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"Some of the major changes include State's being able to opt-out of expanding Medicaid to it's poorest and not implementing health insurance marketplaces."


...Well, that explains schuylaar's situation. Still, I think it`s fucked up and the small guy is always going to lose on this. Aside from basic evolution, more laws and penalties is NOT the answer to solve any problems. The quoted URL/website was posting information on how GOP factors are trying to repeal much of the standards in ObamaCare. President Obama is going to see this ACA turn into a nightmare with the effects from the successful repeals, which will eventually happen. I have a feeling the mandates will remain, Medical Doctors will be over-worked, the employed people will pay too much for basic coverage and it will be the law.
 
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ChesusRice

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pSi007 said:
"Some of the major changes include State's being able to opt-out of expanding Medicaid to it's poorest and not implementing health insurance marketplaces."


...Well, that explains schuylaar's situation. Still, I think it`s fucked up and the small guy is always going to lose on this. Aside from basic evolution, more laws and penalties is NOT the answer to solve any problems. The quoted URL/website was posting information on how GOP factors are trying to repeal much of the standards in ObamaCare. President Obama is going to see this ACA turn into a nightmare with the effects from the successful repeals, which will eventually happen. I have a feeling the mandates will remain, Medical Doctors will be over-worked, the employed people will pay too much for basic coverage and it will be the law.
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41 attempts at repeal and a supreme court challenge

Nah i dont think anything will be repealed
 
Doer

Doer

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Canna Sylvan said:
No other president since Lincoln has stolen more from the American people with the lie taxes are the solution. First it was slavery, now it's health. Other countries less civilized fixed injustice without using another.
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What about, we are ALL fucked up, did I ever disagree with?

And please tell us more on this view about Lincoln before any conclusion may be made.

He stole slaves? Had he not pushed through with the 13th Amendment, and then got shot in the head, you mean?

That was the issue, I agree. He emancipated and he confiscated, as war material, but, he also, launched the 13th before it was too late.

Senate passed 13th Amendment - April, 8, 1865
Surrender at Appomattox Courthouse - April, 9, 1865
Lincoln assassinated - April 14, 1865
13th Amendment ratified - December, 8, 1865 (75% of States)

What did Lincoln do wrong? And more importantly, what else could he have done?

...will defend the Constitution... Pretty clear, I'd say.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Doer said:
What about, we are ALL fucked up, did I ever disagree with?

And please tell us more on this view about Lincoln before any conclusion may be made.

He stole slaves? Had he not pushed through with the 13th Amendment, and then got shot in the head, you mean?

That was the issue, I agree. He emancipated and he confiscated, as war material, but, he also, launched the 13th before it was too late.

Senate passed 13th Amendment - April, 8, 1865
Surrender at Appomattox Courthouse - April, 9, 1865
Lincoln assassinated - April 14, 1865
13th Amendment ratified - December, 8, 1865 (75% of States)

What did Lincoln do wrong? And more importantly, what else could he have done?

...will defend the Constitution... Pretty clear, I'd say.
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It's that fucker's fault we have income tax and he paved the road for the IRS. Which lead to the DEA able to take your property. The UK didn't have a cival war which killed needless people and devestate the economy to end slavery. The UK went about it the right way, peacefully. Lincoln got off easy. To kick it off, over 40,000 black soldiers died. Fuck Lincoln. He didn't give one shit about blacks. He even made speeches to racist southerners he'd ship them back to Africa. In case I forgot, FUCK LINCOLN!!
 
Doer

Doer

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OK fair enough, but I think you are wrong. This was never about blacks or who got a chance to fight or die in the march.

Any President is REQUIRED to fight insurrection and preserve the Union. He WILL. And he is elected to DO something when needed.

And slavery was on the way out. We were losing support in the Western world. We were getting too important on the world stage to allow it.

So, you blame all that on the emancipation proclamation. It was already decided these are de-facto citizens, but slaves.

He did his JOB, and you don't like the consequence. But, Lincoln is but a tiny part. And he got killed for his trouble.
 
Doer

Doer

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Oh, btw, do you know how many slaves had England when they were banned? Not many. So a throwaway point.

And this was not about curing racism....equal protection, under the law is REQUIRED, but not fully implemented even yet, Progress is swift here, however.

Consider the 10K years of un-changing village culture in this world.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Then what was the point of the civil war besides insighting false animosity? The elite want death. The war was a spectacle for their entertainment. Myths play out again and again. Lincoln was ordered to design the Brazen Bull and became one of its victims. To this day his legacy is alive and well. Manufactured hatred used to separate and install the Long Legged Mack Daddy was hundreds of years in the making.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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greenlikemoney said:
Hey, 3 more people just signed up for Obamacare this morning, time for a speech !!!!
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I think you mean 3 more people put plans they have no intention of following through and purchasing in their shopping carts.

"Another sale Mr. Costanza, chalk me up on the big board" - Lloyd Braun


SERENITY NOW!!!
 
Doer

Doer

Well-Known Member
Canna Sylvan said:
Then what was the point of the civil war besides insighting false animosity? The elite want death. The war was a spectacle for their entertainment. Myths play out again and again. Lincoln was ordered to design the Brazen Bull and became one of its victims. To this day his legacy is alive and well. Manufactured hatred used to separate and install the Long Legged Mack Daddy was hundreds of years in the making.
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See, this is the spiritual ego, I warned about. Why the religion talk, suddenly? No one orders a US President. That is the Law.

Lincoln proclaimed there should be an end to slavery....someone ordered him? Who? It was not law at that point, just a Presidential Statement. Citizens cannot be slaves and enjoy equal protection. You are against that idea?

The South seceded from the Union, based on that. You are for that idea?

You think a President's job is to just say, OK, whatever?

He WILL defend the Union, That is the Law.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Doer said:
See, this is the spiritual ego, I warned about. Why the religion talk, suddenly? No one orders a US President. That is the Law.

Lincoln proclaim there should be an end to slavery....someone order him? Who? It was not law, just a Presidential Statement.

The South seceded from the Union, based on that, and you think a President's job is to just say, OK, whatever?

He WILL defend the Union, That is the Law.
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What religion? The wealth protectors use the Herald and appoint the Bard behind closed doors. This has been going on for thousands of years. How else can Toby know his place? We are all Toby and get our due if we even dare whisper, Kunta Kinte. Well, fuck them. Raise your lighter. I am Spartacus!
 
greenlikemoney

greenlikemoney

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BTW, anyone else seen the "projectveritas" undercover video from Texas? The guy goes in to get help filling out his application and has some questions for the "navigators". Basically, the "navigators" tell him to LIE,LIE,LIE.....Lie about your income ( cash ), lie about whether you smoke, lie lie lie. Wonder where they picked up THOSE navigator training tips. Hmmmm.........Quite honestly, this administration and their blind followers are just about the lowest form of life I know. Knowingly lie to get free stuff from taxpayers. It's a feckin' sad commentary on that party. Period.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

New Member
MuyLocoNC said:
I think you mean 3 more people put plans they have no intention of following through and purchasing in their shopping carts.

"Another sale Mr. Costanza, chalk me up on the big board" - Lloyd Braun


SERENITY NOW!!!
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I think as with Lloyd, the obamaphone isn't connected...
 
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