What's the better political strategy?

Fogdog · Oct 30, 2017

Chezus said:
The Republicans went on to set the record for filibustering. They even filibustered their own bills.
Then they blamed Obama for gridlock.

Throw a brick through the window and then burn the building down rather than repair it.

Unclebaldrick · Oct 30, 2017

Fogdog said:
LOL I know, he's never been good at listening and now has just gotten dumb and dumber.

Take a look at the dates on those actions. the 2009 Democratic Congress kicked ass. By 2010 Republicans gained leverage with the filibuster in the Senate and everything ground to a halt.

It is because Obama was just like Bush, but darker.

63 seats. America was telling us... move left, move left!!!!

Fogdog · Oct 30, 2017

Unclebaldrick said:
It is because Obama was just like Bush, but darker.

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63 seats. America was telling us... move left, move left!!!!

We weren't liberal enough. So the country turned a record number of seats, 63 in all over to rabid right wingers.

Makes sense

UncleBuck · Oct 30, 2017

ttystikk said:
No one else here is nearly as rabidly, virulently intolerant as you are.

This section would be a far more diverse, not to mention civil, place without you.

you never say this to the literal nazis and holocaust deniers here, traitor.

UncleBuck · Oct 30, 2017

ttystikk said:
That's called 'democracy'. Perhaps you've heard of it?

i heard all about it when clinton beat bernie by 4 million votes.

but if bernie didn't lose then bernie would have won.

Unclebaldrick · Oct 30, 2017

Fogdog said:
We weren't liberal enough. So the country turned a record number of seats, 63 in all over to rabid right wingers.

Makes sense

And gerrymandering in 2011 made it even more imperative that we move all the way left in order to recapture the Congress. But only by turning away from large donors. Purity is everything in a gerrymandered race.

Unclebaldrick · Oct 30, 2017

UncleBuck said:
you never say this to the literal nazis and holocaust deniers here, traitor.

True, sadly.

ttystikk · Oct 30, 2017

UncleBuck said:
you never say this to the literal nazis and holocaust deniers here, traitor.

I don't care to engage with them. I don't think I can match the intensity your virulent hatred, though I do think that's an appropriate response to them.

Intolerant hack.

UncleBuck · Oct 30, 2017

ttystikk said:
I don't care to engage with them.

you like their posts and buddy up to them.

ttystikk · Oct 30, 2017

UncleBuck said:
you like their posts and buddy up to them.

They make an occasional good point. Even you do now and again.

st0wandgrow · Oct 30, 2017

Unclebaldrick said:
Yeah, I have heard of it. Perhaps you can't deal with being disagreed with.

Is that what you call this? A disagreement?

Fogdog · Oct 30, 2017

ttystikk said:
They make an occasional good point. Even you do now and again.

They refer to the same propaganda you refer to.

Fogdog · Oct 30, 2017

st0wandgrow said:
Is that what you call this? A disagreement?

You are right. @ttystikk isn't really having a disagreement with anybody.

ttystikk · Oct 30, 2017

st0wandgrow said:
Is that what you call this? A disagreement?

Lol right?

Their terror and hatred of ideas that threaten to poke holes their own carefully manufactured assumptions is palpable, to the point where honest questioning of their dogma is simply not to be tolerated.

Hence their new nickname; 'the intolerant'. So much for their self image of Democrats being open to new ideas.

Padawanbater2 · Oct 30, 2017

0 to 5 with none of the usual suspects casting their votes

Can't say I'm surprised. Can't admit independents and non voters is the right way to go because then they'd be agreeing with the majority. Can't say moderates/conservatives because then they'd be agreeing with the right wingers they oppose.

They have no out.

UncleBuck · Oct 31, 2017

Padawanbater2 said:
0 to 5 with none of the usual suspects casting their votes

Can't say I'm surprised. Can't admit independents and non voters is the right way to go because then they'd be agreeing with the majority. Can't say moderates/conservatives because then they'd be agreeing with the right wingers they oppose.

They have no out.

i can't wait until you waste your time calling unaffiliated voters for the bernie campaign.

Sir Napsalot · Oct 31, 2017

The best political strategy is to minimize the effects of politics on your life

ttystikk · Oct 31, 2017

Sir Napsalot said:
The best political strategy is to minimize the effects of politics on your life

Much easier said than done.

Chezus · Oct 31, 2017

ttystikk said:
Much easier said than done.

ttystikk said:
We either elect Mr Sanders or we deserve what we get. We can't say he didn't try to warn us.

What's the better political strategy?

In order for Democrats to win elections, what do you think is the better political strategy:

change the minds of moderates/conservatives

convince Independents and those who normally don't vote to vote

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