Schuylaars Sesh - Executive Order and Minimum Wage..

UncleBuck · Jan 2, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
You no longer have the legal right to pay a person X dollars below an arbitrary number picked by an appointed burecrat even if you and the other person agree.

It is an infringement of the liberties of both parties.

what is a burecrat and why are you giving so many likes to the resident white supremacist lately?

desert dude · Jan 2, 2014

UncleBuck said:
wouldn't be a problem with you if the president were white though.

If only it were George W Bush. Sigh...

UncleBuck · Jan 2, 2014

desert dude said:
If only it were George W Bush. Sigh...

why do you so voraciously attack el tib but then say nothing to bignbushy, who is an actual white supremacist and not just trolling?

NLXSK1 · Jan 2, 2014

UncleBuck said:
what is a burecrat and why are you giving so many likes to the resident white supremacist lately?

I click like on the posts I like...

Shocking, I know...

UncleBuck · Jan 2, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
I click like on the posts I like...

Shocking, I know...

and you just so happen to like the posts from a white supremacist where he says gays have a mental disorder.

but you're totally not a prejudiced bigot and racist.

Canna Sylvan · Jan 2, 2014

schuylaar said:
well, if congress would like to do it's job, but they won't..with no re-election looming..i hope he does it up and does it right!..the dollars will only go back into the economy.

I really hope he does it. He'll be the first president to get ejected from office. Bring it!

desert dude · Jan 2, 2014

Canna Sylvan said:
I really hope he does it. He'll be the first president to get ejected from office. Bring it!

There is already talk of impeachment. He has used Exec order to selectively enforce, i.e. thwart the law (dream act, ACA). Impeach the prez!

desert dude · Jan 2, 2014

UncleBuck said:
why do you so voraciously attack el tib but then say nothing to bignbushy, who is an actual white supremacist and not just trolling?

I wouldn't call my attacks on El Tib "voracious". I said he was a sock puppet troll and I mostly ignore him. Like NLSX, I "like" the posts that I like, though I might not agree with every sentiment.

Unlike you, I am not trying to censor, silence or ban anybody because of their thoughts or words. Tolerance... you ought to actually try it instead of just lecturing others about it.

UncleBuck · Jan 2, 2014

desert dude said:
I wouldn't call my attacks on El Tib "voracious". I said he was a sock puppet troll and I mostly ignore him. Like NLSX, I "like" the posts that I like, though I might not agree with every sentiment.

Unlike you, I am not trying to censor, silence or ban anybody because of their thoughts or words. Tolerance... you ought to actually try it instead of just lecturing others about it.

i am not going to tolerate white supremacists like you.

NLXSK1 · Jan 2, 2014

UncleBuck said:
so you say that gays have a mental disorder, and then you accuse me of intolerance?

i am pretty intolerant of braindead, bigoted assholes like you.

being gay is not a mental disorder, but belief in skewed polls and landlocked iran sure is an indicator.

I didnt say gays had a mental disorder. Although I do believe they are flawed.

It does not mean that I dont tolerate them.

Have another beer buck... I dont want to get in the way of your alcohol fueled temper tantrum here on the forum so I will check out for a while.

Later maybe the adults can continue the conversation...

schuylaar · Jan 2, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
You no longer have the legal right to pay a person X dollars below an arbitrary number picked by an appointed burecrat even if you and the other person agree.

It is an infringement of the liberties of both parties.

there is a little known law called the Fair Labor and Standards Act..why?..because employers* can't be trusted to "do the right thing"ie; sweatshops and child labor.

*AKA..JOB CREATORS.

desert dude · Jan 2, 2014

UncleBuck said:
i am not going to tolerate white supremacists like you.

Oh, mercy me! Whatever will I do?

Canna Sylvan · Jan 2, 2014

UncleBuck said:
you can't pay for this type of entertainment.

you are a fucking bigot, not an adult.

I'm praying that one day you'll wise up and stop being a bigot wegan. All hail the his noodliness, peas be upon him.

tokeprep · Jan 2, 2014

schuylaar said:
well, if congress would like to do it's job, but they won't..with no re-election looming..i hope he does it up and does it right!..the dollars will only go back into the economy.

Congress has no obligation to do anything. Under the United States constitution, congress is the preeminent branch of government, clothed in the greatest and most significant powers, because it is closest to the people, with the house being elected from local districts every two years.

Congress is doing its job. They can make as little or as much new law as they like, and the voters will hold them accountable. If the voters want congress to alter the minimum wage, they must elect representatives who will vote to alter the minimum wage.

tokeprep · Jan 2, 2014

travisw said:
Are you claiming Obama is the first president to use an executive order?

I think there's confusion here. When people talk about Obama raising the minimum wage by executive order, it relates solely to federal employees and federal contractors. Obama has no right to unilaterally raise the federal minimum wage for all workers, which is what is implied in the original post. That action would be a gross violation of the constitutional order and blatant abuse of executive orders.

The White House has backed itself away from the idea of using an executive order for federal workers, let alone proposing to use an executive order to unilaterally raise the executive wage for everyone. I assure you they agree the latter would be an unprecedented violation of the separation of powers.

see4 · Jan 2, 2014

tokeprep said:
Congress has no obligation to do anything. Under the United States constitution, congress is the preeminent branch of government, clothed in the greatest and most significant powers, because it is closest to the people, with the house being elected from local districts every two years.

Congress is doing its job. They can make as little or as much new law as they like, and the voters will hold them accountable. If the voters want congress to alter the minimum wage, they must elect representatives who will vote to alter the minimum wage.

So you acknowledge and support that Congress is stonewalling government progress. Good to know.

echelon1k1 · Jan 2, 2014

schuylaar said:
i support the president in most everything he has done..this is not an outrageous amount..ask echelon, they just did it in australia..

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Australia

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Bombur · Jan 2, 2014

echelon1k1 said:
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Australia

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[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]Consumer Prices Including Rent in Australia are 51.06% higher than in United States[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]Rent Prices in Australia are 62.91% higher than in United States[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2, align: right"]Restaurant Prices in Australia are 44.73% higher than in United States[/TD]
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But.. the big mac!

ChesusRice · Jan 2, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
You no longer have the legal right to pay a person X dollars below an arbitrary number picked by an appointed burecrat even if you and the other person agree.

It is an infringement of the liberties of both parties.

Yeah we did away with slavery as well

You upset?

schuylaar · Jan 2, 2014

tokeprep said:
Congress has no obligation to do anything. Under the United States constitution, congress is the preeminent branch of government, clothed in the greatest and most significant powers, because it is closest to the people, with the house being elected from local districts every two years.
then they don't deserve a salary..it's not a secret that they are one of the most ineffective congress' in history because of the president..i'm sure the president is tired of the game..i know i am.
Congress is doing its job. They can make as little or as much new law as they like, and the voters will hold them accountable. If the voters want congress to alter the minimum wage, they must elect representatives who will vote to alter the minimum wage.

agreed and they've made little..so we're gonna go for the much :mrgreen:

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