Ron Paul for... Vice President?

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Carthoris

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It seems likely that whoever wins the Republican nomination will get all the republican votes. This is a given. What is not a given is who will get the Independents. Obama loses a significant amount of his support when going against Ron Paul. Three scenarios I might suggest that might all but guarantee a Republican win.
1) Brokered convention. Winner needs Ron Paul's delegates to win. He offers him the VP or high appointments in the cabinets. Ron Paul - Head of the Fed anyone?
2) Romney, after winning the nomination outright,is looking to hold the newly organized Ron Paul supporters and their fund raising to the GOP cause offers Ron Paul a place in his admin. This allows him to gain the support of democrat and independent voters.
3) Gingrich or Santorum pick up the nomination and offer Ron Paul a place to keep the supporters on GOP ranks.

The biggest question is... How likely would it be that Ron Paul would accept the VP position? Not likely from what I can guess. Maybe he makes a deal to make his son VP? It would surely be a move towards a future presidency for his son. Ron Paul's support might make a 5% difference for the GOP. Rand Paul VP and Ron Paul backing would be hard to beat. I could easily see him making a deal that would allow him to become head of treasury or control the fed in some way.

What do you all think?
 
jesus of Cannabis

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I think you Ron Paul supports need to wake up and understand he isnt doing anything but dividing the party, he wont be VP or anything else in anyones administration as he is too much of a radical for power hungry DC.
 
deprave

deprave

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I like how your thinking but I don't think they like Ron Paul..

To put it as simply as possible..The problem is he is 100% against the people that tell them what to do, therefore they are 100% against Ron Paul..anyway on this front..

If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination he does have all these "new found" supporters..so hopefully authentic libertarians will have more ground to stand on but Republican's don't like authentic libertarians and that's the truth of it. We are not their friends by any means. They do pretend to be us but so do the democrats, I know a real libertarian when I see one and Ron Paul is one of the few and the only one with a shot at president.



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That happens to be impossible, these guys don't have the money to run nation wide and they aren't on quite a few ballots. Its either Ron Paul or Romney at this point.
 
deprave

deprave

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Carthoris said:
I think many of Ron Pauls supporters would vote for Romney to get Ron Paul into the Fed.
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I don't think I would vote for a Romney/Ron Paul...because of the Romney Part....this is an impossible scenario anyhow. Ron Paul would never team up with Romney and vice versa. I would be totally shocked as would many Ron Paul supporters..We would probably abandon Ron Paul at that point..It just won't happen..
 
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Carthoris

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jesus of Cannabis said:
I think you Ron Paul supports need to wake up and understand he isnt doing anything but dividing the party, he wont be VP or anything else in anyones administration as he is too much of a radical for power hungry DC.
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I know he is dividing the party. This is a great thing. Maybe you missed it. The GOP are fucking crazy fascists, and the Demo's are fucking crazy socialists. By splitting off the part of the GOP party that makes sense he will also pull support from the Demo's. Social liberals and fiscal conservatives both support Ron Paul. On the GOP side you have social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. On the Demo side you have social liberals and fiscal liberals. To believe that the fiscal conservatives and social liberals wont flock to a 3rd party from either side once it was obvious it was capable of actually winning would be silly. Between honest support of the Libertarian views and total disgust with the other 2 parties you could easily see a 3rd party being dominate within a decade. I think it is almost time for the 6th party system. Hooray:)
 
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Carthoris

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deprave said:
I don't think I would vote for a Romney/Ron Paul...because of the Romney Part....this is an impossible scenario anyhow. Ron Paul would never team up with Romney and vice versa. I would be totally shocked as would many Ron Paul supporters..We would probably abandon Ron Paul at that point..It just won't happen..
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I don't think they would be completely shocked if he released his delegates in exchange for a deal to be in charge of the Fed. Would you really be surprised if he leveraged his support in exchange for the power to control the Federal Reserve? I think most Ron Paul supporters would accept this even though it isn't the ideal situation.
 
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Carthoris

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Carthoris said:
I know he is dividing the party. This is a great thing. Maybe you missed it. The GOP are fucking crazy fascists, and the Demo's are fucking crazy socialists. By splitting off the part of the GOP party that makes sense he will also pull support from the Demo's. Social liberals and fiscal conservatives both support Ron Paul. On the GOP side you have social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. On the Demo side you have social liberals and fiscal liberals. To believe that the fiscal conservatives and social liberals wont flock to a 3rd party from either side once it was obvious it was capable of actually winning would be silly. Between honest support of the Libertarian views and total disgust with the other 2 parties you could easily see a 3rd party being dominate within a decade. I think it is almost time for the 6th party system. Hooray:)
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Since I know most of you won't get the 6th party thing. We have had 5 eras of politics more or less. Some people argue more or less. Basically, we have been at the same era since the new deal. It is time for something new. Like monty python would say:
And now for something completely different.

[video=youtube;TRU6tQdyYqQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TRU6tQdyYqQ[/video]
 
deprave

deprave

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Carthoris said:
I don't think they would be completely shocked if he released his delegates in exchange for a deal to be in charge of the Fed. Would you really be surprised if he leveraged his support in exchange for the power to control the Federal Reserve? I think most Ron Paul supporters would accept this even though it isn't the ideal situation.
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If he was litteraly going to be in charge of the FED sure..but I really doubt that would happen..Mittens makes a lot of money due to the FED
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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The VP has little to no power to do anything. Ron Paul has said he would not run with someone he ideologically opposes during the 08 election IIRC. Romney isn't going to run with Ron Paul either. It's a non starter.

I'll be pretty pissed if Paul doesn't go third party if he doesn't win the nomination.
 
deprave

deprave

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OGEvilgenius said:
The VP has little to no power to do anything. Ron Paul has said he would not run with someone he ideologically opposes during the 08 election IIRC. Romney isn't going to run with Ron Paul either. It's a non starter.

I'll be pretty pissed if Paul doesn't go third party if he doesn't win the nomination.
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Yes totally..not going to happen...Mitt Romney is like an enemy of Ron Paul.....Its more likely Mitt Romney picks george soros for vp lol
 
Bluntski McBluntersons

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OGEvilgenius said:
The VP has little to no power to do anything. Ron Paul has said he would not run with someone he ideologically opposes during the 08 election IIRC. Romney isn't going to run with Ron Paul either. It's a non starter.

I'll be pretty pissed if Paul doesn't go third party if he doesn't win the nomination.[/QUOTE

It is a fact that Ron Paul would steal all the independents from Mitt if he ran on a third party ticket. This is why they are terrified of it. Pay attention and you will find fox news constantly trying to bait him into pledging against a third party run. Ron Paul represents everything the establishment hates. It has become blatantly obvious that Mitt is their puppet by the PAC's he has received. Mitt's father has a well over 200 million dollars so who do you think he represents? I am a veteran and I whole-hardheartedly support Ron Paul because I understand what freedom is. People need to quit buying into the idea of sacrificing civil liberties in place of false security. Mitt is Obama with a different name. Socialism obviously doesn't work. What it does is it makes people depend on government so much that we end up allowing them to print more and more money, increase the mass amount of debt, along with expanding the wars, which in turn makes the people responsible for the industrial military complex more and more rich. Moreover, by creating the illusion that the whole world is so dangerous, they will attempt to convince us to give up our national sovereignty too a world government. Anyone who says Ron Paul isn't doing any good is absolutely stupid or just ignorant of the state of our decaying republic. Ron Paul gives Americans an honest assessment of our nations status, while applying viable solutions to restore us back to the prosperous country we once were. Question is, one, do the American people actually want to stand up and demand our government to stop this path of destruction and divert back to making each branch follow something we call the Constitution. Lastly, Ron Paul is shaking things up and will continue to promote the cause of liberty. Every day new people wake up to the libertarian philosophy of "government which governs least, governs best." Considering this is now a two man race Paul vs Romney, lets let the American people decide which candidate we can trust. Unless you liked Obama's "Change", Ron Paul is the only option for people who like freedom.
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SisterMaryElephant

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It won't matter one iota if Ron "the bigot" Paul goes 3rd party.

Nobody votes for libertarians (like Ron "stormfront" Paul) because they're half-liberal. They're only fiscally conservative and the liberals hate them for that. Conservatives won't tolerate a socially liberal RINO even if they are fiscally conservative. Since 1984 no libertarian has gotten more than .5% (not 5%) in the general election, including Ron "the bigot" Paul in 1988.

The end.
 
deprave

deprave

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SisterMaryElephant said:
It won't matter one iota if Ron "the bigot" Paul goes 3rd party.

Nobody votes for libertarians (like Ron "stormfront" Paul) because they're half-liberal. They're only fiscally conservative and the liberals hate them for that. Conservatives won't tolerate a socially liberal RINO even if they are fiscally conservative. Since 1984 no libertarian has gotten more than .5% (not 5%) in the general election, including Ron "the bigot" Paul in 1988.

The end.
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A Common saying is that most american's are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. If the people get their way then Ron Paul would be president. If the establishment gets their way then he won't be, more then likely they will get their way but I hope not.
 
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SisterMaryElephant

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Common in the loony bins maybe...

Not one libertarian has gotten more than 0.5% in a general election since 1984 because libertarians are kooks and most people REJECT their platform. :D
 
deprave

deprave

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SisterMaryElephant said:
Common in the loony bins maybe...

Not one libertarian has gotten more than 0.5% in a general election since 1984 because libertarians are kooks and most people REJECT their platform. :D
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They would not if they actually understood it. The message of liberty is spreading and history will repeat itself.
 
UncleBuck

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deprave said:
A Common saying is that most american's are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. If the people get their way then Ron Paul would be president. If the establishment gets their way then he won't be, more then likely they will get their way but I hope not.
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ron paul is NOT socially liberal by any stretch of the imagination.
 
deprave

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UncleBuck said:
ron paul is NOT socially liberal by any stretch of the imagination.
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Yes he is, Republicans are pro-controlling who you fuck, what you eat, what you smoke, and whats in your video games and tv episodes..Ron Paul is 100% against these types of things.
 
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