Ron Paul for... Vice President?

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
So because somebody didn't want to use a private bathroom at somebodies house that makes them homophobic? Is it not possible that Ron Paul is just uncomfortable asking people to use their private bathrooms? If Ron hates gays so much why would he be at the man's house, and yet be so unwilling to use his bathroom?

That story is a joke, and anyone who was willing to take it with any grain of seriousness is (excuse me) absolutely retarded.
He's used other people's restrooms, he just didn't want to use the gay man's restroom.

He was there for the money, he'll take that.

Perhaps Ron "the bigot" Paul supporters are just mad because the story is true and *they* shouldn't be taken seriously...and they aren't. :D
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Quit being so ridiculous with this yellow journalism crap...
i don't think you know what those words mean. all i did was simply list indisputable ron paul history.

ron paul is agianst none of these things except he is pro-life but at the same time he doesn't think its the federal governments or any governments job to enforce it....same with all of these things..not the federal governments job..
so if the state government wants to make decisions for my wife, if the state government wants to tell my friends who they can marry, if the state government wants to re-implement jim crow laws, that's OK.

that is not a position a social liberal would take. that is the position a closet bigot john bircher would take.

Well If I am gay and I want to get married...In Ron Paul's Ideals I could...If I wanted an abortion I could get one also..Ron Paul may be pro-life but he doesn't believe in policing abortion.
all false.

an example of a libertarian who would actually be favorable to socially liberal views is gary johnson. your purpose would be much better served spamming his name all over the place.

Regardless...thse issues really don't have that much weight..I am pro-life myself but I am still a liberal.
that's fine, but i am an actual social liberal and those issues DO carry weight.

lastly..Ron Paul is not 'against civil rights'...
you are off the fucking deep end. he is expressly against civil rights. you guys have spent countless hours defending him on this issue.
 

deprave

New Member
You're not very good at that "seeing" thing...intelectual honesty isn't your strong point either.

Good luck with your delusions...
I am the one being Intellectually dishonest? When you are talking about strawmans and conspiracy theories, everything you have posted is Intellectually dishonsest. You can't possibly believe that Ron Paul is a racist because of what someone else says or because of a toilet. If you thought this then you would think everyone is racist. You continue to use strawman arguments and copy/paste yellow journalism tactics combined with conspiracy theories...

Now unless your actually retarded. You don't believe anything you posted. Which by definition makes you 'Intellectually dishonest' because you are letting your views get in the way of the facts.

I have been and more often than not am more than fair and I am fully capable of admitting when I am wrong and taking other peoples views into perspective without letting my view interfere. You are obviously none of the above, You are like talking to a brick wall.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Ron Paul thinks gays should be able to get married, he has gay people that work for him also...
do they also die when ronald doesn't opt for health insurance and instead relies on private charities (which footed about 1/10th of the bills for kent snyder)?
 

sync0s

Well-Known Member
yes it does.

i am against black people. but that doesn't make me racist.

i am against women, but that doesn't make me a misogynist.

:dunce:
No it does not.

To say "I personally think homosexuality is wrong" is not being a bigot.

A bigot is somebody who is intolerant towards someone who holds a different opinion than their own. Therefore, if person A says that person B is a bigot for being personally against homosexuality, than person A is in fact the bigot for being intolerant of a differing opinion.

If I were to say "I hate faggots and they all should burn in hell," that is a different story. However, to merely say "I personally think homosexuality is wrong" is not being bigoted.
 

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
No it does not.

To say "I personally think homosexuality is wrong" is not being a bigot.

A bigot is somebody who is intolerant towards someone who holds a different opinion than their own. Therefore, if person A says that person B is a bigot for being personally against homosexuality, than person A is in fact the bigot for being intolerant of a differing opinion.

If I were to say "I hate faggots and they all should burn in hell," that is a different story. However, to merely say "I personally think homosexuality is wrong" is not being bigoted.
That's basically what I said. I'm not pro-homosexuality but I'm not writing anti-gay laws and bigotted newsletters like Ron "the bigot" Paul either...
 

deprave

New Member
i merged a couple of the threads started by this member, and not a peep out of the ron paul people.

soemthing tells me that might not work if it went the other way.

:neutral:
I didn't notice but thank you for that, honestly she deserves to be banned because that account is made solely to come and troll.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
No it does not.

To say "I personally think homosexuality is wrong" is not being a bigot.

A bigot is somebody who is intolerant towards someone who holds a different opinion than their own. Therefore, if person A says that person B is a bigot for being personally against homosexuality, than person A is in fact the bigot for being intolerant of a differing opinion.

If I were to say "I hate faggots and they all should burn in hell," that is a different story. However, to merely say "I personally think homosexuality is wrong" is not being bigoted.
nonsense. rationalization.

"i think homosexuality is wrong" does not beget many positive attitudes toward gays. in fact, it is the root of bigoted attitudes against gays.

homosexuality can be a choice, but often it is anything but a choice. people are born that way. so how is it wrong to be born a certain way? how is it wrong even if someone DECIDES to be gay?
 

sync0s

Well-Known Member
nonsense. rationalization.

"i think homosexuality is wrong" does not beget many positive attitudes toward gays. in fact, it is the root of bigoted attitudes against gays.
Not rationalization. I'm going off of the definition here. Just because it can often be the base for a growing intolerance towards homosexuals, does not make that bigotry. That is like saying because 65% of all robberies are committed after the use of marijuana that someone who smokes marijuana is, by consequence, a thief.

To further verify this: What if someone said "I am personally against homosexuality, but what you do is up to you." Would that still be bigotry in your mind?

homosexuality can be a choice, but often it is anything but a choice. people are born that way. so how is it wrong to be born a certain way? how is it wrong even if someone DECIDES to be gay?
Dude, need I remind you, I am a social liberal. I am pro gay marriage. I am merely pointing out the falsehood in SisterMaryElephant's comment earlier on.
 

deprave

New Member
Most Republican's don't think Gays should be able to marry in New York..Ron Paul thinks they should be able to..Ron Paul doesn't even think homosexuality is a sin, he says because they are born that way and god created them that way, he doesn't think they should be punished and he thinks they should be able to get married...he has homosexuals that work for him and many friends so really how is he anti-gay? Not from something he allegedy wrote in 1979...it doesn't undermine everything he has ever done for civil liberties...
 

SisterMaryElephant

Active Member
nonsense. rationalization.

"i think homosexuality is wrong" does not beget many positive attitudes toward gays. in fact, it is the root of bigoted attitudes against gays.

homosexuality can be a choice, but often it is anything but a choice. people are born that way. so how is it wrong to be born a certain way? how is it wrong even if someone DECIDES to be gay?

I disagree, a person can be against homosexuality without being homophobic. Are gay people heterophobic?
 

deprave

New Member
i'd have to ban everyone that makes an account solely to come and spam ron paul then.
I am not opposed...but at least they only post videos and don't try to harass and intimidate people...SisterMaryElephant is explicit idly breaking the rules of harassment, rude, or fighting posts and registered solely for that purpose.
 
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