UncleBuck
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no, most of them will be fine.
republicans are often dirt poor idiots who have been deluded into carrying water for their puppet masters.
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republicans are often dirt poor idiots who have been deluded into carrying water for their puppet masters.
SirGreenThumb
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haha, unclebuck learned a new word, but cannot seem to use it properly.
C'mon, use deluded in a sentence again.
C'mon, use deluded in a sentence again.
You think you know what this means don't you?
All this means is that in heaven we are all equal.
A rich man cannot get into heaven because in heaven there is no money or wealth. Therefore as soon as he gets to the gates of the kingdom, he is no longer rich.
This passage is more clear in the Greek. I can't read Greek, but I talked to a Greek orthodox priest onetime and he specifically addressed this passage.
Nice try though.
SirGreenThumb
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I'm not religious and the bible is one big contradiction.
There is more proof in greek mythology gods and demigods than there is for the bible.
wonder why that is?
Padawanbater2
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I find it troubling you could interpret that passage that way. I would like to understand why you believe that interpretation of the passage is accurate, though, if you wouldn't mind explaining it to me
budleydoright
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I don't know greek but I know a guy.....
It's pretty clear bro. Read all you want into the meaning but the words are the words, just like the words that are used against our gay brothers and sisters. Oh, did I not allow you to interperet?
It's pretty clear bro. Read all you want into the meaning but the words are the words, just like the words that are used against our gay brothers and sisters. Oh, did I not allow you to interperet?
The bible is actually far more accurate than it is given credit for.
I forget the name of the constellation, but there is one, and all that are visible, even with very high powered telescopes, are six stars.
The bible says it has seven stars.
It wasn't until the late 20th century that with radio or infrared telescopes we finally found out it had seven stars.
This was often used by atheists in the 18th century as evidence of the flawed nature of the bible. But it turns out the bible was right.
I'm not saying the bible is infallible, I'm saying that it is far more important than many people give credit to it for being.
It's pretty easy to tear apart the English language bible, a lot of things are mistranslated and lose meaning.
The original language bible (Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic) are very different in small details, and small details make a big difference.
Ancient man knew a lot more than we give him credit for, I guess that is my point. I would even extend that to non-Christian ancients. They ancient Mayan calendar is just as accurate as our modern atomic clock calendar. mindboggeling.
UncleBuck
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it's pretty clear you are not on a voice program, so you can stop using that excuse now.
Padawanbater2
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This is simply not true. Modern technology far surpasses ancient wisdom
All it says about homosexuality is that it is a sin. Same as adultery, or thinking your neighbor has a hot wife.
It is man that adds to that. The bible says man shall not lay with man as he lays with women. That's pretty much all it says. It is the humans who go wrong here.
The church i go to, while not embracing homosexuality (no more so than it embraces adultery) does not condemn homosexuals. They welcome homosexuals, just like they welcome any sinner.
They don't tell them they can pray away the gay, or that they are a special evil kind of sinner.
Just that they are sinners, and should not be looked down on just because their sin is homosexuality, instead of greed or gluttony.
My preacher actually said "a fat man in the back row is just as much of a sinner as a gay couple in the front row."
Christians like to engage in finger pointing. It is easy to pick on homosexuals. This is changing from within in the Christian faith.
The majority of Christians, I think, know it is wrong to single out homosexuals.
However, I do not think many pastures will be doing homosexual weddings, just as many will not marry a heterosexual couple if either of them have been married before and their ex spouse is still living.
It will always be seen as a sin, but the double standard, and harsher treatment is ending.
What is not true, the Mayan calendar? I saw it on history channel. They are the same down to the third decimal place, and scientist say that the Mayan calendar is within their margin of error for our atomic clock.
If it's untrue, the history channel got it wrong.
Nutes and Nugs
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And then the cow jumped over the moon.
Padawanbater2
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Absolutely, the history channel is not an accurate account of history. It is for entertainment purposes, take for instance their series Ancient Aliens
Padawanbater2
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I'm sorry, I don't understand, are you saying ancient wisdom is more accurate than modern wisdom?
SirGreenThumb
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I wasn't referring to constellations and the number 7 was widely used in the bible as it stood for a lot of things. I agree that the translation for the bible more than likely isn't accurate, but when you go from having an old testament and then a new testament for corrections or updated bullshit makes me feel like the bible is only good for one thing.. Rolling papers..
Edit: I would like you to know I have no problems with people who are religious, to each their own.. Nothing wrong with believing in a higher power.
Nutes and Nugs
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Pada like a lot of other liberal atheists tend to think this way.
They think religion or employers steal from them but they have no faith or Work towards anything.
Someday they will see the light.
maybe
The English language version passage is not open to that interpretation. But in the original Greek, it reads differently.
If memory serves, it basically says what I said. No one will be rich in heaven.
The English version is out of step with the rest of the bible. I've read it all, and although it calls greed a sin, all sinners are capable of being redeemed.
It is possible to be rich without being greedy. Even if it weren't, if a greedy rich man accepted Christ, he gets into heaven. But once he is in heaven, he will no longer be rich.
That verse makes no sense in light of the message of salvation for all sinners unless you look at it in the light of the rich can't take their wealth to heaven with them.
That combined with the Greek having a different meaning, more in line with what I've said above. I am troubled anyone can have an understanding of Christianity, and think that it is impossible for a rich person to die and be banned from heaven.
I'm not saying ancient wisdom is more accurate than modern science, I am simply saying ancient man knew more than we give them credit for.
Look at the pyramids in Egypt and meso-America. We would have trouble building them today out of the same material. Their alignments are astounding, and it was all done without power tools and gps.
The ancients are amazing.
SirGreenThumb
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Didn't they also do something with mermaids? Or was that discovery? Idk at this point.
Padawanbater2
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How is it possible to be rich without being greedy?
Also, couldn't you say the same thing for murderers and rapists? That they could simply accept Christ and get into Heaven, too?
If that's the case, where does the value lie in being a good person for the sake of being a good person in Christianity? Why not just do what I want and ask for forgiveness and accept Christ?