Hillary Clinton

ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
that must be why the working class overwhelmingly voted for hillary.



you are just constantly wrong.
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Put her up again and she'll lose again.

She's qualified, but has made the mistake of telling the world that she's a corporatist, so there's a large bloc of liberals who won't vote for her and the Right has succeeded in their smear campaign tactics- which you seem to have adopted of late.

I voted for her in the general. It was not enough and it won't be next time, either.

If not Bernie, then someone who has the same platform.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
Yes, I would.

You don't seem to get it..

We got the worst president in history because Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party ignored the will of working people.

She ran her campaign on "At least I'm not as bad as Donald Trump!" and failed.

If Democrats run on the same message in 2020, they will likely fail again.

Democrats need to have a solid, progressive, platform to win.
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He doesn't WANT to get it.

He's an establishment shill, bent on alienating everyone who doesn't agree with his narrow vision of 'acceptable liberal'...

THAT'S a real winning strategy.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Put her up again and she'll lose again.

She's qualified, but has made the mistake of telling the world that she's a corporatist, so there's a large bloc of liberals who won't vote for her and the Right has succeeded in their smear campaign tactics- which you seem to have adopted of late.

I voted for her in the general. It was not enough and it won't be next time, either.

If not Bernie, then someone who has the same platform.
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i'm sorry, what does any of that have to do with the lie that padawan told and i corrected?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
He doesn't WANT to get it.

He's an establishment shill, bent on alternating everyone who doesn't agree with his narrow vision.

THAT'S a real winning strategy.
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but clinging to an octogenarian who pens rape fantasies and smearing the first black president and the first female nominee of a major party is a real winning strategy in a democratic primary composed of women and black people.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
that must be why the working class overwhelmingly voted for hillary.



you are just constantly wrong.
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The working class didn't vote for Hillary Clinton or the Democratic party, they voted against the Republican party, because they know the Republican party serves the interests of the well off and corporations.

We have two parties in America that both work for special interests, not their American constituents who voted for them.

So, if Republican politicians support southern strategy policy positions, there's not much of a choice for their African American constituents.. They're not going to support the Republican who supports everything they're against, and since we live in a two party political system, they're forced to support the Democrat, simply because they oppose the Republican. That doesn't mean they support the Democrat. It simply means they oppose the Republican.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
The working class didn't vote for Hillary Clinton or the Democratic party
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yes they did.

even in the primary they did, over bernie sanders.

clinton won 56-43 over bernie among democratic primary voter making less than $50k.

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yet another pada theory mercilessly dismantled by actual facts, data, and evidence.

you used to be better than this.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
but clinging to an octogenarian who pens rape fantasies and smearing the first black president and the first female nominee of a major party is a real winning strategy in a democratic primary composed of women and black people.
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Democrats need all the allies they can get.

Unless of course they're happy just taking the money and telling those to their left to fuck off. It won't get them elected, but the party apparatchiks won't care as long as they're still getting paid.

Tammany Hall all over again.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Democrats need all the allies they can get.
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you just created a thread to smear the first black president, which brought many, many racists in to agree with you, while trump is out there fucking up the entire nation.

you are not an ally. i do not want you on our side.
 
UncleBuck

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OneStonedPony said:



Yes, the more she talks the less the public likes her. Kind of like UncleBuck
Will either of them learn ? Probably not.
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first of all, reported as spam.

secondly, same offer:

if i pay you $1000, will you make a video of yourself in a crowded public area talking about how obama is "the mus-churian candidate" and a secret muslim and BLM is a terrorist organization?

i just want to see how warm and welcoming a reaction you would get if you spewed your hatred and vitriol to actual people in a public space.

let me know if you'll take me up or if you're gonna chicken out like a total pussy.

thanks.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
you just created a thread to smear the first black president, which brought many, many racists in to agree with you, while trump is out there fucking up the entire nation.

you are not an ally. i do not want you on our side.
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I created a thread exposing what looks a great deal like corruption to anyone who can do math. IDGAF which side of the aisle they sit on, I'M AGAINST CORRUPTION IN GOVERNMENT.

AND whoever would have me be quiet because I might rock the boat.

Good thing it's not up to you. You're a good little establishment shill. Tammany Hall would be proud of you.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
I created a thread exposing what looks a great deal like corruption to anyone who can do math. IDGAF which side of the aisle they sit on, I'M AGAINST CORRUPTION IN GOVERNMENT.
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cool caps lock.

what is $20 x 5 million? is it greater than or less than $65 million?

and why did so many racists rush into your thread to agree with you?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
cool caps lock.

what is $20 x 5 million? is it greater than or less than $65 million?

and why did so many racists rush into your thread to agree with you?
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Your math is still wrong, because HMP won't get $20 a book, they'll get half or less. That includes Kindle sales.

Still shilling with bogus numbers. ...and now hiding them in a different thread.

This is lie number 2 in as many days.

You are destroying your own credibility.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Your math is still wrong, because HMP won't get $20 a book, they'll get half or less. That includes Kindle sales.

Still shilling with bogus numbers. ...and now hiding them in a different thread.

This is lie number 2 in as many days.

You are destroying your own credibility.
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good thing it's not like i used completely conservative estimates based on his book sales from 2006, when he was still a largely unknown senator, and not a successful and popular two term president who will now be selling his presidential memoirs.

you're spewing conspiracy theories and telling other people about their credibility. sad.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
good thing it's not like i used completely conservative estimates based on his book sales from 2006, when he was still a largely unknown senator, and not a successful and popular two term president who will now be selling his presidential memoirs.

you're spewing conspiracy theories and telling other people about their credibility. sad.
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Really? The best selling book in 2016 sold 7 million copies. If wholesale is $10 a book- generous- that's $70 million. Sooooooo best case scenario HMP is gonna make $5 million? BEFORE the costs associated with actually printing it?

Unlikely. However, they CAN write off the loss as a business expense and let the taxpayer cover it.

Again, you're here in the wrong thread.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Really? The best selling book in 2016 sold 7 million copies. If wholesale is $10 a book- generous- that's $70 million. Sooooooo best case scenario HMP is gonna make $5 million? BEFORE the costs associated with actually printing it?

Unlikely. However, they CAN write off the loss as a business expense and let the taxpayer cover it.

Again, you're here in the wrong thread.
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i bet obama sells 10 million copies at $20 a pop. what does that add up to?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
good thing it's not like i used completely conservative estimates based on his book sales from 2006, when he was still a largely unknown senator, and not a successful and popular two term president who will now be selling his presidential memoirs.

you're spewing conspiracy theories and telling other people about their credibility. sad.
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And you lied.

The Audacity of Hope was sold concurrent with his presidential campaign, so he wasn't exactly an 'unknown' author.

That's lie number 3.

I'd stop talking about other people's credibility if I were you.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
If he does, cool. If he doesn't, HMP doesn't lose anything- the taxpayer gets to cover the 'loss'.

That's still pretty shitty.
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the real shitty thing is your retarded conspiracy theory.

i dunno, maybe it will play well in a democratic primary or something?

"hey, look, heavily black voters of the democratic primary. obama is a corrupt thief whose only motivation to improve education was to get a lucrative book deal! look how many racists like this theory of mine!"

doubt it.
 
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