Why I hope Trump's future trial is televised.

[DIY-HP-LED]

I want to see every case litigated against him win. This isn't a machine gun. He's the ex-president and a prosecutor had better win if they go to court. We have great cases against him, the key is to make them so tight his defense has no case.

Jack and Garland are at the point where if they don't indict Trump over the documents and obstruction, they will need to explain why in great detail to the public. That is the low hanging fruit and one Trump cannot escape from and those convictions will put him away for life. Where they put him is up to the department of prisons and will be interesting in it's own right. Once the ice is broken with a trial and conviction the hits will keep coming, to a point, at least federally, state crimes and civil suits are another matter. I figure the DOJ will tag him for the secret docs, obstruction and some J6 indictments along with his cronies and ignore all his other crimes since he has but one old carcass to imprison.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

It was an eight week trial but only took three days for the jury to review all that evidence and come back with that verdict. At the beginning of all this, not long after the Jan 6 attack on our democracy, people were saying it couldn't happen. A little more than three years later, it only took three days for a unanimous verdict of Seditious conspiracy.

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The heaviest penalties will be for planning, not the level of violence and these people were planners and primary actors with connections to Trumpworld. There are several kinds of conspiracy Trump and his cronies can be charged with and most are easier to prove and carry enough time. Like I said, by the time the J6 stuff gets to trial Donald the kingpin will be long gone over the documents. That should cause some shock and awe among the magats, as Donald's mystic of invulnerability is not just punctured, but exploded and with it goes their's.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

The Georgia DA does not. Hers is the strongest case with the best evidence. I can wait for as long as it takes to take that bastard down. There is a clock ticking and it will run out eventually, but not even this year. Tomorrow, if she doesn't press charges, its not the end. It will be the end if she let's fly the arrow and misses. Make sure to hit the target before releasing the bow. If that means getting in closer, then I can wait. This isn't about you or me. It's about taking down the most serious threat to our democracy, ever. I can wait. Why can't you?

I can...I just don't like it, and bitching about it releases some steam...Sorry it seems to add to your steam.
If i actually couldn't wait, i would at least end up on the national news...

 

[schuylaar]

Kirschner is just another talking head.

He gives good ... insights but he's as powerless as we are.

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I personally think Kirschner while being a nice man is as you say; I can't stand his vids.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Jack and Garland are at the point where if they don't indict Trump over the documents and obstruction, they will need to explain why in great detail to the public. That is the low hanging fruit and one Trump cannot escape from and those convictions will put him away for life. Where they put him is up to the department of prisons and will be interesting in it's own right. Once the ice is broken with a trial and conviction the hits will keep coming, to a point, at least federally, state crimes and civil suits are another matter. I figure the DOJ will tag him for the secret docs, obstruction and some J6 indictments along with his cronies and ignore all his other crimes since he has but one old carcass to imprison.

Wherever they put him, they should leak that they put him in suspended animation in area 51. I know that's what im gonna tell people.

 

[schuylaar]

The Georgia DA does not. Hers is the strongest case with the best evidence. I can wait for as long as it takes to take that bastard down. There is a clock ticking and it will run out eventually, but not even this year. Tomorrow, if she doesn't press charges, its not the end. It will be the end if she let's fly the arrow and misses. Make sure to hit the target before releasing the bow. If that means getting in closer, then I can wait. This isn't about you or me. It's about taking down the most serious threat to our democracy, ever. I can wait. Why can't you?

Grand Juries are head and shoulders above a regular jury. They're people who have demonstrated IQ and they serve for a period of time almost in professional sense.

There is no way that they will not recommend indictment.

He'll be jailed and Jack can continue his case at his leisure. Trump will be charged for those Top Secret docs and Jack will know where to reach him- Fulton County Jail.

 

[cannabineer]

I can...I just don't like it, and bitching about it releases some steam...Sorry it seems to add to your steam.
If i actually couldn't wait, i would at least end up on the national news...

just no guns, k?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Wherever they put him, they should leak that they put him in suspended animation in area 51. I know that's what im gonna tell people.

They might want to kill the future "Elvis resurrection" conspiracy theories, same basic bunch so I'm sure someone will pull something out of their asshole for them to chew on and eat up. There will be Donald sightings and impersonators, Elvis 2, while Donald goes mad in the crowbar hotel. Maybe his kids will take the "Free Donald"(Free Willy) show on the road and cash in on the persecution and crucifixion of cheeto Jesus, milking the suckers one last time. Maybe they can make a roboDonald who will stand on the stage spewing his greatest hits with wires hanging out of his asshole. The AI would be easy, not much processing power or memory would be required to simulate Trump, he has a limited response range.

 

[schuylaar]

Jack and Garland are at the point where if they don't indict Trump over the documents and obstruction, they will need to explain why in great detail to the public. That is the low hanging fruit and one Trump cannot escape from and those convictions will put him away for life. Where they put him is up to the department of prisons and will be interesting in it's own right. Once the ice is broken with a trial and conviction the hits will keep coming, to a point, at least federally, state crimes and civil suits are another matter. I figure the DOJ will tag him for the secret docs, obstruction and some J6 indictments along with his cronies and ignore all his other crimes since he has but one old carcass to imprison.

No one is doing anything special for that crew- Weisselberg got Rikers..the Judge was actually happy about that fact.

 

[cannabineer]

No one is doing anything special for that crew- Weisselberg got Rikers.

He got Rikers Lite - the medical wing, not g-pop.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I want to see every case litigated against him win. This isn't a machine gun. He's the ex-president and a prosecutor had better win if they go to court. We have great cases against him, the key is to make them so tight his defense has no case.

There is one more point to make about Trump's many crimes, after he is a convicted felon. They might want to get others who were part of other corrupt schemes with Trump and could indict him as part of a conspiracy with others, but maybe not, Cohen was indicted, but Trump and others skipped out over the Stormy Daniels case. That case it appears is now being brought against Trump by NY state. They are going after Bannon too on the same crimes Trump pardoned him for. 2023 and 2024 appear to be years of reckoning for many in the GOP and somewhat entertaining for the rest of us.

 

[Fogdog]

A description of what went down in the courtroom before the judge, what the DA, Willis said and why.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I can...I just don't like it, and bitching about it releases some steam...Sorry it seems to add to your steam.
If i actually couldn't wait, i would at least end up on the national news...

I find your "daily outrage" to be somewhat amusing, though I share your sentiments. Reactions to this absurdity should run the spectrum from outrage to bemusement, sometimes ya can either laugh or cry and with Trump it was sometimes both together. He is a crazy combination of clown and murder, dangerous, but also so fucking stupid as to make one laugh into tears at times. If he had a brain he'd be a lot more dangerous, being a moron made damn him near lethal to America. Let's just say Donald evokes strong emotions in most people and many a gentle soul would strangle the fucker without blinking!

 

[schuylaar]

A description of what went down in the courtroom before the judge, what the DA, Willis said and why.

Oh Jesus Christ! He literally said the same one item over and over again for 18 minutes and I gleaned nothing other than the DA doesn't want the report released in fairness to future defendants.

Another talking head.

 

[Fogdog]

Oh Jesus Christ! He literally said the same one item over and over again for 18 minutes and I gleaned nothing other than the DA doesn't want the report released in fairness to future defendants.

Another talking head.

People complaining about the pace of this investigation have been saying the same damn thing for almost THREE YEARS. If I can take that surely you could stand 18 minutes. It's like a parent embarking on a cross country trip and the kids start asking when will we get there before leaving the driveway. I wish the kids could have been entertained with a movie or something.

Just saying it once doesn't work. Maybe the 18th iteration was too many but still, I'm glad you got his main point. This is a matter of justice, not a TV drama. She will not release the report until she has had time to read, understand and plan her next actions. Once its released, the peanut gallery will act up.

WhenwillwegetthereI'mtiredcanIhaveahamburgerwhyareyoudrivingslowcanwestopatthatplacewiththeconcretedinosaursIhavetopeewhenwillwegetthere

Willis wants to be able to tell the media what she plans to do and only when she's ready will she release that report. I applaud what she just did. We are just now crossing the last state line of the trip. So, kids -- shut up already. We are almost there.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

People complaining about the pace of this investigation have been saying the same damn thing for almost THREE YEARS. If I can take that surely you could stand 18 minutes. It's like a parent embarking on a cross country trip and the kids start asking when will we get there before leaving the driveway. I wish the kids could have been entertained with a movie or something.

Just saying it once doesn't work. Maybe the 18th iteration was too many but still, I'm glad you got his main point. This is a matter of justice, not a TV drama. She will not release the report until she has had time to read, understand and plan her next actions. Once its released, the peanut gallery will act up.

WhenwillwegetthereI'mtiredcanIhaveahamburgerwhyareyoudrivingslowcanwestopatthatplacewiththeconcretedinosaursIhavetopeewhenwillwegetthere

Willis wants to be able to tell the media what she plans to do and only when she's ready will she release that report. I applaud what she just did. We are just now crossing the last state line of the trip. So, kids -- shut up already. We are almost there.

this isn't a car trip, it's the future of our entire country. it's been THREE YEARS...I'd REALLY like to see some progress after THREE YEARS.
they didn't form the Jan 6 committee until July, almost 7 months after the fact. WHY?
you say we're impatient and i say that the DOJ and others have been dragging their feet.
the document case is cut and dried, there is no fucking argument, he had them, he refused to return them. more than one time. they lock people up for that shit...but not trump...
you say i'm impatient, and i say Garland is a shitty AG. a good man, would have been a great scotus judge, crap as AG...
now defend Garland...tell me i'm an immature child, while the republicans and the scotus are constantly maneuvering, and we're giving them so much time to do it they're starting to get impatient, themselves.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

People complaining about the pace of this investigation have been saying the same damn thing for almost THREE YEARS. If I can take that surely you could stand 18 minutes. It's like a parent embarking on a cross country trip and the kids start asking when will we get there before leaving the driveway. I wish the kids could have been entertained with a movie or something.

Just saying it once doesn't work. Maybe the 18th iteration was too many but still, I'm glad you got his main point. This is a matter of justice, not a TV drama. She will not release the report until she has had time to read, understand and plan her next actions. Once its released, the peanut gallery will act up.

WhenwillwegetthereI'mtiredcanIhaveahamburgerwhyareyoudrivingslowcanwestopatthatplacewiththeconcretedinosaursIhavetopeewhenwillwegetthere

Willis wants to be able to tell the media what she plans to do and only when she's ready will she release that report. I applaud what she just did. We are just now crossing the last state line of the trip. So, kids -- shut up already. We are almost there.

Commenting on the scenery is ok, oh look there is a pig! Hey there's a road sign up ahead, "50 miles to perdition"...

 

[GenericEnigma]

this isn't a car trip, it's the future of our entire country. it's been THREE YEARS...I'd REALLY like to see some progress after THREE YEARS.
they didn't form the Jan 6 committee until July, almost 7 months after the fact. WHY?
you say we're impatient and i say that the DOJ and others have been dragging their feet.
the document case is cut and dried, there is no fucking argument, he had them, he refused to return them. more than one time. they lock people up for that shit...but not trump...
you say i'm impatient, and i say Garland is a shitty AG. a good man, would have been a great scotus judge, crap as AG...
now defend Garland...tell me i'm an immature child, while the republicans and the scotus are constantly maneuvering, and we're giving them so much time to do it they're starting to get impatient, themselves.

Politics and public perception must be accounted for. Independents must slowly slip into the cold swamp to avoid shock and disbelief.

Be they cowards or craftsmen, we will know after 2024's election. When viewed through the cynical lens of politics, the timing is lining up.

 

[cannabineer]

Commenting on the scenery is ok, oh look there is a pig! Hey there's a road sign up ahead, "50 miles to perdition"...

If there were a sign with a specified distance, that would be an improvement.

That said, when Willis says no details because of the given legitimate reason, I’m fine with that.

 

[cannabineer]

People complaining about the pace of this investigation have been saying the same damn thing for almost THREE YEARS. If I can take that surely you could stand 18 minutes. It's like a parent embarking on a cross country trip and the kids start asking when will we get there before leaving the driveway. I wish the kids could have been entertained with a movie or something.

Just saying it once doesn't work. Maybe the 18th iteration was too many but still, I'm glad you got his main point. This is a matter of justice, not a TV drama. She will not release the report until she has had time to read, understand and plan her next actions. Once its released, the peanut gallery will act up.

WhenwillwegetthereI'mtiredcanIhaveahamburgerwhyareyoudrivingslowcanwestopatthatplacewiththeconcretedinosaursIhavetopeewhenwillwegetthere

Willis wants to be able to tell the media what she plans to do and only when she's ready will she release that report. I applaud what she just did. We are just now crossing the last state line of the trip. So, kids -- shut up already. We are almost there.

are we there yet?