Why I hope Trump's future trial is televised.

[Fogdog]

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Looks like you may be getting your wish
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/24/georgia-da-investigating-trump-over-2020-election-says-decisions-imminent.html

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis cited that plan during a hearing in Atlanta, where she urged the judge to keep sealed — for now — a final special grand jury report that was assembled to gather evidence and hear testimony from 75 witnesses for that investigation.
A consortium of media outlets has asked Judge Robert McBurney to make the report public, as the grand jury has recommended.
Willis, in arguing to keep it sealed, said, “For future defendants to be treated fairly, it’s not appropriate at this time to have this report released.”
″“We need to be mindful of protecting future defendants’ rights,” she told McBurney
“Decisions are imminent,” Willis said.

Now let's see if her definition of 'Imminent" and mine are close to each other....My definition of Imminent has me noticing that 4 hours has passed since she made the statement....

You people have the patience of children.

 

[cannabineer]

You people have the patience of children.

It’s been sixty-five million seconds.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

You people have the patience of children.

trump used up all my patience. watching seditious criminals sit in the house and the senate used up all my patience.
watching the lowest element of our society ransack the capital building, urged on by the lowest, foulest president we will ever have, put my patience into negative numbers.
i haven't loaded my guns, that takes more patience than you realize.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

You people have the patience of children.

We all eagerly await Donald's downfall and for justice to be done, the anticipation is doing more to fuck up Donald than Roger though! His social media posts indicate stress and desperation.

Would it be wise to indict Donald with the debt ceiling pending? Would the magats go wild and fuck up the debt ceiling vote even more? That might be a political consideration worth making, depending on how much destruction the republicans want to visit on America before they buckle.

 

[schuylaar]

I just wanted to pop on by to say..

GEORGIA CHARGES IMMINENT

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/politics/fulton-county-trump-grand-jury-hearing/index.html

Now I know it said 'decision imminent' well duhhhhhhhhhh..I know what they really mean

 

[Fogdog]

Repeating the same complaint accomplishes nothing.

It’s been sixty-five million seconds.

I can wait for as long as it takes to get this right. One shot is all we get.

It’s been sixty-five million seconds.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

We all eagerly await Donald's downfall and for justice to be done, the anticipation is doing more to fuck up Donald than Roger though! His social media posts indicate stress and desperation.

Would it be wise to indict Donald with the debt ceiling pending? Would the magats go wild and fuck up the debt ceiling vote even more? That might be a political consideration worth making, depending on how much destruction the republicans want to visit on America before they buckle.

why should we have to live in fear of republicans holding the economy hostage? do you think a single one of them has the guts to wreck the economy and become international pariahs? that they have the courage to commit political suicide, when all they live for is the power their positions grant them? some of them may be that ignorant, that stupid and spiteful, but most of the republican party is not that stupid...they will raise the spending cap, or they alone will pay the price.

 

[schuylaar]

We all eagerly await Donald's downfall and for justice to be done, the anticipation is doing more to fuck up Donald than Roger though! His social media posts indicate stress and desperation.

Would it be wise to indict Donald with the debt ceiling pending? Would the magats go wild and fuck up the debt ceiling vote even more? That might be a political consideration worth making, depending on how much destruction the republicans want to visit on America before they buckle.

<whispers> Bring it.

 

[schuylaar]

why should we have to live in fear of republicans holding the economy hostage? do you think a single one of them has the guts to wreck the economy and become international pariahs? that they have the courage to commit political suicide, when all they live for is the power their positions grant them? some of them may be that ignorant, that stupid and spiteful, but most of the republican party is not that stupid...they will raise the spending cap, or they alone will pay the price.

GOP is meeting about this now.



I swear that's Will Smith in the Zombie huddle for this scene; someone else is holding the gun. They do stuff like that all the time..walk ons too, M. Night Shyamalan, Tarantino to name a few.

 

[cannabineer]

Repeating the same complaint accomplishes nothing.


I can wait for as long as it takes to get this right. One shot is all we get.

Repeating the same complaint slightly scratches the itch of cliffhanger fatigue. While I can’t argue against the one-shot thing, there are at least three strings on this bow: Willis, James, Smith. Surely one can be expended on a near-sure thing; we got backups.

 

[cannabineer]

Repeating the same complaint accomplishes nothing.


I can wait for as long as it takes to get this right. One shot is all we get.

Possible weird insight.

Status bars on loading files etc. have been a part of daily life for a while now. Seeing the status bar go to 90%, then just hang there, seems to describe at least my sensation surrounding the whole accountability shlamazel.

And with a pro like Kirschner as the sword and shield of my impatience, I’m pretty secure in it .

 

[schuylaar]

Repeating the same complaint accomplishes nothing.


I can wait for as long as it takes to get this right. One shot is all we get.

We have more than one shot.

 

[Fogdog]

Possible weird insight.

Status bars on loading files etc. have been a part of daily life for a while now. Seeing the status bar go to 90%, then just hang there, seems to describe at least my sensation surrounding the whole accountability shlamazel.

And with a pro like Kirschner as the sword and shield of my impatience, I’m pretty secure in it .

Kirschner is just another talking head.

He gives good ... insights but he's as powerless as we are.

 

[cannabineer]

Kirschner is just another talking head.

He gives good ... insights but he's as powerless as we are.

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I hope you know that I am also dedicated to integrity of the process. These pages allow me to blow off some of the steam.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

why should we have to live in fear of republicans holding the economy hostage? do you think a single one of them has the guts to wreck the economy and become international pariahs? that they have the courage to commit political suicide, when all they live for is the power their positions grant them? some of them may be that ignorant, that stupid and spiteful, but most of the republican party is not that stupid...they will raise the spending cap, or they alone will pay the price.

I'm just speculating on any possible impact it could have on prosecuting Trump, I expect the debt ceiling to be resolved before Donald is indicted anyway. I too think they will crack along regional lines and close districts, the magats from the red states could crash the economy and bring on another great depression and it wouldn't affect their elections at all, they can't fuck their voters enough.

 

[Fogdog]

We have more than one shot.

The Georgia DA does not. Hers is the strongest case with the best evidence. I can wait for as long as it takes to take that bastard down. There is a clock ticking and it will run out eventually, but not even this year. Tomorrow, if she doesn't press charges, its not the end. It will be the end if she let's fly the arrow and misses. Make sure to hit the target before releasing the bow. If that means getting in closer, then I can wait. This isn't about you or me. It's about taking down the most serious threat to our democracy, ever. I can wait. Why can't you?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Repeating the same complaint accomplishes nothing.


I can wait for as long as it takes to get this right. One shot is all we get.

It would appear you have multiple shots at Donald, two federal over the docs and J6, and two state, one in Georgia and the other in NY at this point. Getting off on one crime does not absolve him of other different crimes. He will be indicted over the secret documents and two counts of obstruction at least and his legal statues will change to that of a convicted federal felon. His trial will be in DC and everybody involved in J6 was convicted there, if they were tried there.

 

[Fogdog]

It would appear you have multiple shots at Donald, two federal over the docs and J6, and two state, one in Georgia and the other in NY at this point. Getting off on one crime does not absolve him of other different crimes. He will be indicted over the secret documents and two counts of obstruction at least and his legal statues will change to that of a convicted federal felon. His trial will be in DC and everybody involved in J6 was convicted there, if they were tried there.

I want to see every case litigated against him win. This isn't a machine gun. He's the ex-president and a prosecutor had better win if they go to court. We have great cases against him, the key is to make them so tight his defense has no case.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Dave Aronberg: Seditious conspiracy was a risk for the DOJ and it paid off

39,858 views Jan 24, 2023
A jury on Monday convicted four members of the Oath Keepers of seditious conspiracy in the second batch of guilty verdicts related to the extremist group's efforts to block the certification of the 2020 presidential election. Politico's Josh Gerstein and Dave Aronberg discuss.

 

[Fogdog]

Dave Aronberg: Seditious conspiracy was a risk for the DOJ and it paid off

39,858 views Jan 24, 2023
A jury on Monday convicted four members of the Oath Keepers of seditious conspiracy in the second batch of guilty verdicts related to the extremist group's efforts to block the certification of the 2020 presidential election. Politico's Josh Gerstein and Dave Aronberg discuss.

It was an eight week trial but only took three days for the jury to review all that evidence and come back with that verdict. At the beginning of all this, not long after the Jan 6 attack on our democracy, people were saying it couldn't happen. A little more than three years later, it only took three days for a unanimous verdict of Seditious conspiracy.