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So you ordered 5 times the doses you’d need for Canada, to be able to give away the surplus to poorer countries? It seems unlikely you will get all those and the surplus before the rest of the western world has enough for their entire population too, or at least enough to bring R rate below 1. Sounds like a ’nice’ initiative, but it will require a massive international effort and funding and lot more doses to vaccinate the rest of the world. The reason to order now is to avoid being in the back of the line, ordering ahead for countries that will still be last in line seems more symbolic than practical. Not like the vaccine factories will stop after the pre-orders. It would be better to contribute to an international fund.In Canada we ordered 10 doses of various vaccine candidates, including the 2 recently in the news, for every citizen, the unused ones will end up in other poorer countries.
A few weeks ago we, in NL, had more daily cases per 100,000 citizens than the US. Blaming 9 out of 11 cases on Trump isn’t realistic. Presidents don’t start or stop the spread, people do, and in most countries they act like the idiots people just are, regardless of their government’s good or bad intentions.Donald made a crises that would be a challenge for any government into a catastrophe and we all know the reasons and results. America has 8.6 times the US population and we are the closest model to America, we have 300,000 total cases, in American terms about 2.6 million cases, America under Trump has over 11,000,000 cases, almost four and a half times as many per capita than Canada. At least 9 million cases can be placed at Trump's feet. Our response was average for an industrialized nation, below average in the beginning I figure.
“tested positive per 100k population”
Difference between first wave and second is partly due to the large difference in amount of testing. Now roughly 1.5% of the population gets tested per day, with roughly 15% testing positive. Number of deaths and hospitalizations is actually lower than in first wave, which is why we let it get so high before taking sufficient action.
The reason for the fast decline over the past 2-3 weeks is closing bars/restaurants again, limiting group gatherings, only go out in pairs max, and finally, finally most people started wearing masks (voluntarily). R-rate went from 1.38 to 0.91 in just 3 weeks. In a country where “rules are for sheep” and laws mostly considered guidelines that can be bend.
Plenty of other countries where at points the rates were higher and the response to each wave shows leaders underestimated the situation, while they don’t have an idiot like Trump calling the shots. It’s too easy for americans to blame the high infection numbers and deaths on Trump. In fact it’s quite silly to depend on and wait for Trump to take action. One of the stats the media frequently throws around is “if 95% of the population in the US would start wearing masks, X thousand people less will die by feb 2021”. Trump or Biden, I don’t see that happening regardless because in the end its about people acting responsible and adapting, which conservatives aren’t particularly good at regardless of which president they elected.