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I saw the story on the news, shocking. Something needs to be done about bullshit.That’s really fucked up! I thought they were dumb fucks here in Oklahoma but they aren’t that bad where I am at, thank goodness!!
I saw the story on the news, shocking. Something needs to be done about bullshit.That’s really fucked up! I thought they were dumb fucks here in Oklahoma but they aren’t that bad where I am at, thank goodness!!
I don’t know if there could be.? Have you ever heard that saying , you can’t fix stupid . Maybe better education and teaching kids in school about what has happened with this pandemic and Trump and discussions on brainwashing and cults might be helpful .I saw the story on the news, shocking. Something needs to be done about bullshit.
The Moderna vaccine is 94% effective, is based on new mRNA technology and production is rapid and cheap, it can be stored in regular fridges and produces a high level of antibodies even in older people.He says 4 years for life to go back to "normal" even with vaccines coming out. Mask mandates without enforcement are worthless and relying on people to just wear one out of the goodness of their hearts seems worthless too since people just don't wear them. Biden might be grappling with the pandemic his entire time in office.
Even with a vaccine, COVID-19 will last for years, expert says
While Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health and other health experts are hopeful vaccines will make a real difference in managing COVID-19, some of the pandemic's challenges are likely to persist for a long time. Dr. Nicholas Christakis, a physician and sociologist at Yale...www.pbs.org
From what I could gather in the interview with the chief scientist, he said a quarter of the people were over 65, most flu vaccines are much less effective in older people. This new technology uses mRNA to cause our cells to create the spike proteins only and our immune response is similar to a bad case of covid, like an older person might get.Moderna tests were conducted with 30,000 people in the study. It's a pretty good sample size and enough to say that it is effective. Probably by as much as 90% effective. But other conclusions such as "works better in older people", it's too early to say something like that.
Moderna's Covid-19 Vaccine, Explained (Published 2020)
Does this mean the end of the pandemic? Who was in the trial? Is it part of Operation Warp Speed? And other questions answered.www.nytimes.com
What are the data that goes into this conclusion?
30,000 test subjects, all more that 18 years of age. Half were given a placebo in a blind randomized selection process..
The trial began in July.
During that time 95 people became sick due to covid.
90 of them were given the placebo
5 were given the vaccine.
Based upon these results, they claim 94.5% effective. People should assume it's not really 94.5% effective because, I mean, wow, that's pretty small number of positive results upon which to claim three significant figures in test accuracy. 90% is probably better. Of the 11 people who became really ill due to covid, none were given the vaccine.
Only an idiot would say from these tests that the vaccine is "unusually effective" for older people. Simply not enough data to support that. But there is enough data to say the vaccine is very effective and that it seems to be just as effective for older people as for younger. So, hooray, that's a good thing.
If they post the interview with chief scientist at Moderna on Youtube I'll post it, he gave a bit more info than was in the raw data they released which wasn't much.Moderna tests were conducted with 30,000 people in the study. It's a pretty good sample size and enough to say that it is effective. Probably by as much as 90% effective. But other conclusions such as "works better in older people", it's too early to say something like that.
Moderna's Covid-19 Vaccine, Explained (Published 2020)
Does this mean the end of the pandemic? Who was in the trial? Is it part of Operation Warp Speed? And other questions answered.www.nytimes.com
What are the data that goes into this conclusion?
30,000 test subjects, all more that 18 years of age. Half were given a placebo in a blind randomized selection process..
The trial began in July.
During that time 95 people became sick due to covid.
90 of them were given the placebo
5 were given the vaccine.
Based upon these results, they claim 94.5% effective. People should assume it's not really 94.5% effective because, I mean, wow, that's pretty small number of positive results upon which to claim three significant figures in test accuracy. 90% is probably better. Of the 11 people who became really ill due to covid, none were given the vaccine.
Only an idiot would say from these tests that the vaccine is "unusually effective" for older people. Simply not enough data to support that. But there is enough data to say the vaccine is very effective and that it seems to be just as effective for older people as for younger. So, hooray, that's a good thing.
Add it to the annual flu shot, this is version 1, I'm sure they are working on version 2 as we speak.Covid-19 may never leave us and we may need a yearly vaccine.
In Canada we ordered 10 doses of various vaccine candidates, including the 2 recently in the news, for every citizen, the unused ones will end up in other poorer countries. This is not a static situation, but a dynamic one, there will be other vaccines and treatments for this pandemic. We had a vaccine in months for this disease, a lot of time was spent safety testing and clinical trials. We will be ready for the next pandemic and many of the tools for dealing with it quickly are being developed now. Pandemic prevention and mitigation will receive military level priority, not just in America either. In 5 years we will be much better at dealing with viral infections.The reason the flu shot is yearly is partly because we import a slightly mutated version from China and elsewhere in asia every year, where weather conditions, dense populations, and poor treatment of animals, allow for an ongoing transmission. The most common flu strain, H3N2, originated from Hong Kong in 1968. The more recent swineflu from 2009, now part of the yearly flu vaccin, resulted in nearly 100k deaths since, and 1mil hospitalizations in the US alone. Swine flu v 2 was discovered in china earlier this year and has the potential of going global. as well.
The dominant SARS-CoV-2 virus type is already a mutated version, and tests have shown antibodies still work, and thus so will vaccins. Mutating doesn’t always mean new or reoccurring vaccin.
Assuming enough people will vaccinate to create herd immunity (yeah big assumption), it will definitely require a yearly shot IF there are untreated areas from which the virus is imported every year AND if the virus mutates so much it’s no longer recognized by antibodies. Neither of those conditions are a given, in which case a shot may be required only when traveling to/from certain areas. There’s still reason to be hopeful covid-19 will “leave us”.
It seems unlikely the rest of the world will continue to allow china to spread deadly and economically costly viruses unchecked, and if there’s any country that can force its citizens to vaccinate it’s china. On the other hand, this year they will double the amount of flu shots, from 25mil to 50mil, which is nothing (little over 4%) on their total population.
“China virus” isn’t xenophobic or racist, it’s just not specific enough. Which fucking china virus... the world is still in panic mode, but some day soon the world needs to have a talk with china. About how they treat their animals for example.
Joe's people are turning up the heat on Donald and the head of the GSA, she will be fired hours after signing the papers and on Jan 20th any way. I don't think the democrats are putting the heat on her too much yet, every day the transition is delayed hurts the republicans in Georgia, it's in no way their fault though. When they feel it might start costing lives, especially since the announcement of two vaccine candidates, the heat will be turned up as it recently has. Joe's experts want in on the vaccine data, the production logistics and distribution plan, access to everything else goes along with it. After Dec 14th Joe becomes president elect legally and constitutionally, if Donald isn't transitioning by then on at least the public health end, I don't see him lasting his term. He would cost them 2 senate seats Georgia (all they care about) and either the 25th or impeachment would move forward, too many lives would be on the line not to.It’s called TRUMPVIRUS