Trump: Transgender people 'can't serve' in US military

Flaming Pie said:

Military swings conservative and christian. So good luck with that.

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yo pie, never stop being a ludicrous POS

War hero John McCain, the preeminent Republican voice on national security, took a break from battling brain cancer to send this statement: “The President’s tweet … regarding transgender Americans in the military is yet another example of why major policy announcements should not be made via Twitter.…There is no reason to force service members who are able to fight, train, and deploy to leave the military — regardless of their gender identity. We should all be guided by the principle that any American who wants to serve our country and is able to meet the standards should have the opportunity to do so — and should be treated as the patriots they are.”


From Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), who wields a lot of control over the Pentagon’s budget from his perch on the Senate Appropriations subcommittee: “You ought to treat everybody fairly and give everybody a chance to serve,” he said on CNN. In a follow-up statement to the Huntsville Times, he added: “The current policy is a big tent for people who want to serve. You've got to remember, our military force is a voluntary force.”

From Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “I would have significant objections to any proposal that calls for a specific group of American patriots currently serving in uniform to be removed from the military.”

From Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska), who served in the Marines: “I’m all about training standards. High, high standards for whoever joins the military,” he told HuffPost. “But my initial reaction is, if you can meet those standards, we shouldn’t care who you are. So, meet the standards, and you should be able to join the military.”

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), whose openly gay son prompted him to come out for gay rights in 2013: “The Secretary of Defense is conducting a study of this policy and Rob believes we should wait until that is complete before making any decisions,” a spokeswoman told in-state press.

st0wandgrow said:

Just because you don't understand the issue doesn't mean it's a mental illness. It's physiological. The World Health Organization is even looking to reclassify it.

Nature isn't perfect. There are people born without an arm. Are they mentally ill freaks for wanting a prosthetic arm? Transgender people are 100% a certain gender, but they were born with the wrong parts. Do you have any kids? If so, I'm assuming that you got to see the ultra sounds and imaging of the fetus as it was developing. It's fucking amazing, but also gives you an idea of how and where shit can go wrong. One slight variation and the fetus may not develop normally. This is no different.

Imagine growing up like you did. Everything about you was a boy. You played with other boys, you wore boys clothing, you were attracted to girls...but, you had a vagina. Some people choose to carry on like that and live their life as a female. Others say fuck that, and they go through the process of changing their gender.

I don't call that mentally ill, I call that brave.

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They are male or female. If they are a male and think they are a female...that's mental illness. plain and simple. sorry im going to be an asshole. that's how it is.

There are people that think they are cats and dogs born into their body as well. One could say that's not a mental illness but in reality it's the same fucking thing. They are born a girl/boy and their head is fucked and they think they are another gender. I blame it on all the nasty compounds we injest into our body. There is so much estrogen shit getting pumped into us it's insane.

ducker2 said:

They are male or female. If they are a male and think they are a female...that's mental illness. plain and simple. sorry im going to be an asshole. that's how it is.

There are people that think they are cats and dogs born into their body as well. One could say that's not a mental illness but in reality it's the same fucking thing. They are born a girl/boy and their head is fucked and they think they are another gender. I blame it on all the nasty compounds we injest into our body. There is so much estrogen shit getting pumped into us it's insane.

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Do you have a PHD in this? What's your area of expertise in mental health?

I ask because the experts, including the World Health Organization disagree with your expert opinion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/health/who-transgender-medical-disorder.html

I bet some are against fem seeds as well.

dandyrandy said:

I bet some are against fem seeds as well.

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I do not discriminate against seeds of any sexual orientation either...except hermaphrodites. Those bastards are not welcome in my home!

st0wandgrow said:

Just because you don't understand the issue doesn't mean it's a mental illness. It's physiological. The World Health Organization is even looking to reclassify it.

Nature isn't perfect. There are people born without an arm. Are they mentally ill freaks for wanting a prosthetic arm? Transgender people are 100% a certain gender, but they were born with the wrong parts. Do you have any kids? If so, I'm assuming that you got to see the ultra sounds and imaging of the fetus as it was developing. It's fucking amazing, but also gives you an idea of how and where shit can go wrong. One slight variation and the fetus may not develop normally. This is no different.

Imagine growing up like you did. Everything about you was a boy. You played with other boys, you wore boys clothing, you were attracted to girls...but, you had a vagina. Some people choose to carry on like that and live their life as a female. Others say fuck that, and they go through the process of changing their gender.

I don't call that mentally ill, I call that brave.

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agreed. except many transgenders will mutilate their bodies to match their heads, not their dna, their mental status tells them they want to be the want to be different, they want to be different than their very dna.

if dna says boy and a a person is born with a vag I get it. If they want help paying I'll help pay for the assignment. I'll support their right to join the military too.
If their dna says they are boy, and they're born with boy parts and their head tells them to be a girl and to cut off their boy parts and build girl parts instead..... its a mental issue. I will not help pay a mentally ill person to change their sex without dna. I dont mind if they do, who cares. If the military wants them to join I will support this as I did in the last presidency. But today the military giants do not want this. It impedes their ability to perform correctly. This is not necessarily a Trump move as much as we want it to be you know.

dandyrandy said:

I bet some are against fem seeds as well.

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It's the only game in town as far as I'm concerned.

trumpsbud said:

I will only have sex with woman that likes to have sex with men.
Your indiscriminate with men doesn't appeal to me.

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Good attempt at speaking english.

TacoMac said:

The problem is that this decision isn't being made by military leaders. It's been made by a draft dodging, spoiled brat megalomaniac with homophobia.

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no, you are wrong here. the leader consulted with those who are serving with others and those leaders advise the president, duh? he said so himself, did you miss the quote I posted.

cookie master said:

IF they want penis removal surgery and hormones. those are guaranteed costs if so, unlike being injured in combat. Military wouldnt hire me because of my knee, it will cost them, but penis removal aint cheap either -probably over 50 grand, and it serves our country no purpose as opposed to fixing my knee. Trannies would flock to the military if we offered the surgery. I could go on with my military funded functional knee and work, what work can you do by removing a penis?
Im not sure if its an issue but Ill bet it is. Like I said they are good to go as a soldier but they bring issues that baffle my mind.


Btw = have you seen a tranny? they are disturbing and it aint good to confuse all the kids in the military. LOLA Im ok with trnsgender in the military, but no dressing up like women, and no surgeries. the girls have it easy because they just wear the uniform and thats that.

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The military spends ten times more to make sure impotent white men like you get bone pills.

cookie master said:

Trumps initial statement was to lgbt= who the fuck is that? How is a lesbian or a gay related to a tranny??? You can find lesbians straights or gays in nature, you are one or the other, but you cant group up and gang up on straight people. How is a tranny related to gay or lesbian? Its not related at all. Trump is ok with lesbians and gays, but he has enough sense to not allow military benefits to cover sex change operations. If you disagree then you are a moron.
The whole male female thing is purely human, my dog doesnt know if shes a girl or not.

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Trump is not ok with lesbians or gay people, he says they can be fired just for being gay.

chemphlegm said:

agreed. except many transgenders will mutilate their bodies to match their heads, not their dna, their mental status tells them they want to be the want to be different, they want to be different than their very dna.

if dna says boy and a a person is born with a vag I get it. If they want help paying I'll help pay for the assignment. I'll support their right to join the military too.
If their dna says they are boy, and they're born with boy parts and their head tells them to be a girl and to cut off their boy parts and build girl parts instead..... its a mental issue. I will not help pay a mentally ill person to change their sex without dna. I dont mind if they do, who cares. If the military wants them to join I will support this as I did in the last presidency. But today the military giants do not want this. It impedes their ability to perform correctly. This is not necessarily a Trump move as much as we want it to be you know.

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I get what you're saying, but I still don't see it as an issue. If they are willing to put their lives on the line, AND they are able to clear the bar mentally and physically to serve, then I don't care about their sexual orientation, DNA, or whatever.

I don't buy the money issue either. Our current military budget is somewhere around 500 billion. The sex change operations would cost about 5 million (per military estimates). That's like saying you have $500,000 in your pocket, and you refuse to come off $5 for a homeless person. That $5 isn't going to fuck your budget up.

cookie master said:

This was not Trumps distraction, Its the liberals repeating and berating him constantly that is distracting. You are the ones thinking he has to do something to appease a group of people. Hes the president, he will be for at least 4 years. And he doesnt give a fuck about politics or pleasing anybody. he wants good things for the USA and you and me. Unlike any other politician, hillary would be on her campaign trail already except she will die from bad health within 2 years.

Trump is focussing your hate on him, eventually you may figure out why. Its exposed th media and the snowflakes. Everything you hate in Trump will not be improved by another politician.

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Trump is already campaigning again you tard.

cookie master said:

hes the pres, thats that, whats the foolery about? I thought this was about my taxes funding men joining the military in order to have their penis chopped off for free. stay on topic please.

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You don't pay taxes but if you did they'd be spent on boner pills for impotent white old men like yourself.

st0wandgrow said:

Just because you don't understand the issue doesn't mean it's a mental illness. It's physiological. The World Health Organization is even looking to reclassify it.

Nature isn't perfect. There are people born without an arm. Are they mentally ill freaks for wanting a prosthetic arm? Transgender people are 100% a certain gender, but they were born with the wrong parts. Do you have any kids? If so, I'm assuming that you got to see the ultra sounds and imaging of the fetus as it was developing. It's fucking amazing, but also gives you an idea of how and where shit can go wrong. One slight variation and the fetus may not develop normally. This is no different.

Imagine growing up like you did. Everything about you was a boy. You played with other boys, you wore boys clothing, you were attracted to girls...but, you had a vagina. Some people choose to carry on like that and live their life as a female. Others say fuck that, and they go through the process of changing their gender.

I don't call that mentally ill, I call that brave.

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Just to add to this, we all start out as female.....that is why you have nipples.

Heil Tweetler said:

From Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska), who served in the Marines: “I’m all about training standards. High, high standards for whoever joins the military,” he told HuffPost. “But my initial reaction is, if you can meet those standards, we shouldn’t care who you are. So, meet the standards, and you should be able to join the military.”

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without the use of experimental psychotropic drugs and surgeries and added testosterone to assist your mental state and your physical abilities. check, great policy

They don;t need testosterone, they take it to look even more masculine because people like you wouldn't have it any other way.

If there was a problem with the drugs, there would be stories about it in the press every day.

st0wandgrow said:

Do you have a PHD in this? What's your area of expertise in mental health?

I ask because the experts, including the World Health Organization disagree with your expert opinion.

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"Karl Surkan, a professor of women’s studies at M.I.T. and Temple University, who is transitioning from female to male"

oh yeah that's totally unbiased!

chemphlegm said:

you want someone to remove your fat smashed up gaping pussy and put a baby dick on it, that about right? you looking here for acceptance? maybe a judge free zone for the addadicktome crowd you attract?



I see mentally ill people giving up their life for all kinds of reasons. Exploiting the mentally ill in our society is not forward movement.
Transexuals save lives, take lives, love lives hate lives...so fucking what, samo samo as any other person, without the mental challenges and illness

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You are so incredibly insecure. Who put you in charge of what other people do with their genitals?

dagwood45431 said:

They are not mentally fragile by default and protecting them has absolutely nothing to do with the Orange Retard's "Look! Squirrel", ploy.

I misjudged you. Your issues with this appear to go way beyond mere ignorance. If you're feeling icky about all of this for some reason, I'd suggest using that as a jumping off point for your own quest for metal health.

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a dude tucking his wiener in between his legs during his life while going to the girls bathroom, pretending to be someone he is not hoping one day to pay someone to cut it off, rx some drugs so he can handle is mental state, more to grow some boobs and a hairy mask..... is mentally ill. have you NO scruples? does anything occur to you as mental illness, this seems to be one of unilateral agreed upon examples to cite