The Art of The Auto

mossys

Active Member
Sup everyone...I have never grown an auto strain or do i have the genetics to. I would like to start learning the benefits to an auto strain over a photo period strain. Anybody have any good reasons?

IF we can grow perfectly formed/ripened THC trics in 8 weeks..Why Wait..? bongsmilie


Have a great weekend everyone..:bigjoint:

 

FullDuplex

Well-Known Member
Have a great weekend everyone..:bigjoint:

Indeed a long over due relaxing weekend needed. Gonna get my germs started tonight.
Gonna start another round of Bad Betties as well as my first round of ICU
so i am hoping to see some interesting phenos. I may make a cross depending on
color if i get any but i will be making seed stock from both for future experiments.
 

43Hitman

Active Member

IF we can grow perfectly formed/ripened THC trics in 8 weeks..Why Wait..? bongsmilie


Have a great weekend everyone..:bigjoint:

Same to ya mossy. You too FD, thanks again for all your help. I'm like a sponge man just soaking up all the good info you guys are putting down.
 

John Mondello

Active Member
Indeed a long over due relaxing weekend needed. Gonna get my germs started tonight.
Gonna start another round of Bad Betties as well as my first round of ICU
so i am hoping to see some interesting phenos. I may make a cross depending on
color if i get any but i will be making seed stock from both for future experiments.
Bad Betties? ICU? please elaborate?
J
 

FullDuplex

Well-Known Member
Hey FD, I have been planning my very first grow which i will be conducting in a grow box that is about 24"x18"x24". Obviously these are some somewhat constricting dimensions so I've decided that growing auto flowering strains would be the best way for me to maximize the space. It is going to be a closed container as well so heat is an issue and i've chosen to go with 8 26W cfl's for my light source. However, this is my first grow and i have a lot of questions. How many plants would you estimate i could fit inside of my box? How long is the veg cycle for these little ladies? during the veg cycle what combination of 2700k and 6500k bulbs should i use? what light/dark ratio should the plants get during the veg stage? if i use fox farms soil which one should i choose and how often after planting should i fertilize? what is the best water pH for the AFL's? what light/dark ratio should the plants get during the flowering stage? during the flowering cycle what combination of 2700k and 6500k bulbs should i use? do you have a trusted website through which i could order some AFL seeds? what are your favorite AFL strains?

Thanks in advance for any advice. Feel free to bestow upon me any knowledge a first time grower should posses that i may have neglected to ask about.
In a nut shell, most of these questions have been covered but i know there is a ton of info here so ill give ya a little taste.

For best performance, you need to get 2700k-3500k and 6500k bulbs to grow with.
Its gonna be hard to tell about the space, start small and then work your way up.
Watch your heat cause if your space is small then it will get hot fast make sure you have ventilation. Autos can be run on 18/6 from START to FINISH. No need to change light patterns or cycles, just set it and let them grow.

6500k bulbs during the first 2 weeks, this is the only time the plant really vegges. Once you see sex switch out to the cooler temp of 2700k-3500k

as far as feeding goes its hard to say. FF has good products but i make my own soil. Just listen to the plants and they will tell you what they need as far as food goes.

From here its up to you to provide the best environment.

GL
 

mossys

Active Member
Ah m8..
I was worrying about you....
I thought you had started that superb stash..
and we wouldn't see you 'til you got through it...:-P..
Spring..
Hi FD, what color are your bad betty beans?
Have you got Red beans...?

Gonna get my germs started tonight.
Mine have their heads out of the soil...
and I set another few away yesterday.

Looks like we are growing our own christmas presents..:leaf:

Now..our little non-af problem..
I Missed this info a few pages back...posted by HBC...
but I have edited the Name out.

From what I have heard, ********* doesn't even breed their own AF'S. They were using an outside source to hurry up and jump into the AF craze. I don't know if this is true or if they have started breeding them, "in house". Everything I have read was from some time ago so they maybe breeding them in house now
.
IF seed companies were using an Independant breeder rather than In house..
ALL of those non-af crosses could have come from one Breeder..
Thoughts to ponder..

Same to ya mossy. You too FD
I'd like to second that motion!
Cheers M8's

Experiment for the weekend...:bigjoint:

Roll a couple of joints..
stick one in the Fridge..for a couple of hours
leave the other at room-temp.

Smoke the room temp one first..
quickly followed by the fridged one.

(Don't I have the Best homework...:bigjoint:)

Which one gives the Best intensity/depth of Flavour..?

P.S...you know I told you about the virus I had in my inbox...

IF I msn messenger Meaty..rather than mail him..
would I still pass on the virus..?
 

dargo

Active Member
mossy!!!!! :D

not red, black. could it be there stained from the deep color of the plant? il take some photos when the kids have gone....
 

Harry Bald Sack

Active Member
Mossys: I think this is something we should definitely keep our eyes on and all the non-af's very well could have came from the same breeder. I just wish this, "unnamed breeder who is in the center of this apparent F-up" would reassure it's customers that this problem has been corrected. I wish there was some up to date info available on the subject, but I guess it is possible that this "unnamed breeder" was trying to keep the problem as hush hush as possible while fixing the problem. For fear of ruining their name and losing future costomers.

Without knowing for sure, I will have to assume that the problem has not been corrected and I will have to continue to believe this until I see my DDR'S flower first hand.
 

mossys

Active Member
WOOF..Chyna...I may be Miles out..
But..
the New homework I was telling you about..

one of the seed companies is doing work on Charting the Terps in crosses.
(gotta be GC..?..)
The have a Spike chart...and graph figures on the left hand measure..
the measures are in VOLTS..
THAT wouldn't be the measures you need for the GC would it..?

mossy!!!!! :grin:

not red, black. could it be there stained from the deep color of the plant?
Spot ON M8..
bet they came out of that deep purple/red pheno Betty you had...
(as soon as I saw you ask about seed colour..I knew what you had...)...:leaf:

You can get them in the red too.

The Black/dark one will Sometimes shed the outer skin if you have them dry for a while..
and they look a bit mottly..
But..
germ..no probs.

Bad Betty strikes again...:clap:

How is your stash doing..have you found a fave..
If that Mi5 isn't Up there I will eat my hat..
coz despite her probs..she had a Classy set of genetics.
Looking at her made my mouth water..and that is always a good sign when I'm looking at genetics.

Harry Bald Sack

Mossys: I think this is something we should definitely keep our eyes on
Yeah m8..cheers for bringing it..I hadn't considered it..
But..it Could explain a lot.

Without knowing for sure, I will have to assume that the problem has not been corrected and I will have to continue to believe this until I see my DDR'S flower first hand.
You and 43Hitman will be our Live Experiment to see if they have corrected the problem..
But..after 43Hitman saying it was an old problem..and the seed company having a Good name...
I'm Confident for you both. :leaf:

Get those Girls rolling..we need them for the AF Canna Porn collection.
 

mossys

Active Member
FullD..start of the homework from the book..Terps.

One of the Terps found in a large amount of canna is Myrcene...
(marijuana types but Not in hemp..)
Myrcene is a potent analgesic..anti-inflamatory..anti-biotic...

(so you can see the benefit of trying to isolate This Terp out for Med crosses..Told you it was Your kind of homework Chyna..)

Now for the Interesting part..
They say that certain food can develop a synergie between certain terp types and Enhance the effect/uptake.

The easily available to Test one is Mango.

Apparently..slightly over-ripe Mangos are also full of Myrcene..
and if you eat one 20 minutes Before you smoke a Myrcene dominant bud...
it actually speeds up intensifies the high you would normally get........:o

Now..that brings up possibilities eh...

because if it IS right..
then we should be able to try a smoke without mango..
then a one with...
guage the difference..
and pip-point the dominance of Myrcene in the selected bud.

Another little Medical move forward..IF we can prove it.

IF anyone tries this Test..
it does say it intensifies and strengthens uptake..
report results back....Please....
 

Endorium

Member
My first auto has now started flowering. It is 5 days since it showed signs of flowering. What do you guys think? Its extremely bushy plany and wondered should I be trimming anything to let light to buds? Cant LST any more as not enough room :)
First two pics are of my La diva auto that is flowering and second is of my sharks breath non auto I will flower once my La diva has finished.
Using 250W Flowering CFL and 90 LED UFO
IMG_0140.jpgIMG_0139.jpgIMG_0141.jpg
 

FullDuplex

Well-Known Member
Mine have their heads out of the soil...
and I set another few away yesterday.

Looks like we are growing our own christmas presents..:leaf:
Exactly, nice little christmas treat and something nice to ring in the new year :weed:



IF seed companies were using an Independant breeder rather than In house..
ALL of those non-af crosses could have come from one Breeder..
Thoughts to ponder..
Indeed but you still think that they would have seen this in their own testing. IF they did and still continued to sell them then this would be part of the issue, comes back to greed. But im not going to point a finger until i know the truth. Still think that its someone trying to get on the band wagon with untested genetics.





Experiment for the weekend...:bigjoint:

Roll a couple of joints..
stick one in the Fridge..for a couple of hours
leave the other at room-temp.

Smoke the room temp one first..
quickly followed by the fridged one.
Sounds nice, i like to keep my smokes in the freezer
never thought about it with a doobie.


IF I msn messenger Meaty..rather than mail him..
would I still pass on the virus..?
Should be fine, i don't see it going through messenger
 

ChynaRyder

Member
FullD..start of the homework from the book..Terps.

One of the Terps found in a large amount of canna is Myrcene...
(marijuana types but Not in hemp..)
Myrcene is a potent analgesic..anti-inflamatory..anti-biotic...

(so you can see the benefit of trying to isolate This Terp out for Med crosses..Told you it was Your kind of homework Chyna..)
I like your thinking m8, was moving along these lines too...but a different terp, Limonene...citrus has always provided me very good relief...the orange bud girls, a real lemony Sour 60 pheno, and my Skunk#1 x Afghan mom is very lemony, with a dash of vanilla....But, I have have had a number of recommendations for mango haze from MNS, and I hope to run some this summer, after I go through a blueberry phase with Blue Satelite and Bluebonic (the terps in the BB family have always been very friendly to me too) but I digress...Myrcene and Limonene have been the 2 terps I would like to bring forward and accentuate, and I love the idea of eating the mango...was just into town yesterday, but aint goin back till Monday. Hopefully someone can pull this one off quickly


WOOF..Chyna...I may be Miles out..
But..
the New homework I was telling you about..

one of the seed companies is doing work on Charting the Terps in crosses.
(gotta be GC..?..)
The have a Spike chart...and graph figures on the left hand measure..
the measures are in VOLTS..
THAT wouldn't be the measures you need for the GC would it..?
Yup, as the compounds emerge from the column, they are ionized in a flame, and the concentration of ions triggers an equivalent current, that quantifies as a voltage...:dunce:

Roll a couple of joints..
stick one in the Fridge..for a couple of hours
leave the other at room-temp.

Smoke the room temp one first..
quickly followed by the fridged one.

(Don't I have the Best homework...:bigjoint:)

Which one gives the Best intensity/depth of Flavour..?
Where are you going with this one, Bro??? Tincture in the freezer, now your putting your bones in there? This ones going over my addled brain this AM :bigjoint:

Been really enjoying BOG's Blue Moon Rocks...shit of it is, the pheno I liked the best out of the 7 girls I got took about 100 days to flower...Really mellow pain reliever with that Blueberry Euphoria...She gets me a lil' stupid tho :leaf:

Cheers!
 

ChynaRyder

Member
hope every one is having a great Sat

lets all smoke one :bigjoint:
Cheers Bro...I may just smoke about 10 of em for ya...I tried to PM, but cannot, something a jigger with my account I suppose. At some point we will chat about the Mrs....you help her back pain m8, and you realize the hummer you will get in return :clap:

Beautiful day with nary a cloud in the sky, I am off to fly with the birds. :bigjoint:
 
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