ummm so If you have an alarm system then that means you are planning to be robbed again? Where do you come up with this shit? You have locks on your home, using them means you are planning on having people try to break in, which would prove any killing was premeditated. this is what you are trying to argue.
Police: Pot might be factor in Montana killing
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How is the homeowner suppose to know he was a German Exchange student and act accordingly?
abandonconflict
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Well I agree with this but you said that he didn't care about his life. Do you know how shit works in EU?
abandonconflict
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Familiarize yourself with the case.
abandonconflict
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Why would he care if his goal is to kill the jerk who has been breaking in to steal his weed?
SirGreenThumb
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No I have no idea how things work in other countries, but I'm sure it still wouldn't turn out good if he did it there either. People don't just decide to break into a house on a whim, he knew there would be consequences and those consequences could very well cost him his life.
Could there have been other options for the home owner to make? Yea, there are several, he could have shot him in the ass or leg, but no one can make that choice but the home owner. The fact remains that the kid shouldn't have been doing what he was doing and he paid the ultimate price for his actions.
I don't wish death upon the kid for what he was doing, I used to be the same way when I was kid. Young stupid and thought I was invincible, but at the time I would still agree that I had a complete disregard for my own life.
We cannot blame others for the actions that we decide to take on our own.
abandonconflict
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Actually, the home owner set up a trap in order to kill the person who had already broken in to his house twice.
There are people here who will defend anyone who tries to use syg or castle law in court, no matter what. That is because they value property over life.
There are people here who will defend anyone who tries to use syg or castle law in court, no matter what. That is because they value property over life.
What were you doing in 1989?
abandonconflict
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Operation Just Cause wasn't shit. I'm in Panama right now.
Just because you're older doesn't mean you have shit for experience.
He set up a trap, a device intended to keep a victim from escaping? Is that what he did?
SYG and the Castle Doctrine have NOTHING TO DO WITH PROPERTY, why is it so hard for you to understand that? When someone breaks into your house they are there to KILL you, no other reason to break into an occupied home.
A year in Afghanistan and 2 in Iraq WERE a little more exciting, I'll admit....at times.
I was jumping out of airplanes and shooting motherfuckers when you were jumping off a school bus, kid, and we've got men on this forum that were doing it long before THIS ol' fart was doing it, so spare us your "killing" bullshyte and focus on the subject.
abandonconflict
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So by the time you went to an actual war zone you were a senior NCO...
In other words you sat behind a desk.
What was your mos?
I didn't start the pissing contest but I can piss pretty fucking far. Doublejj might have me beat.
Harrekin
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I must admit...
If I heard someone downstairs, they better be made of kevlar, or be fond of have many holes inside themselves.
The police better clean up the mess too, I pay my taxes for a fucking reason.
I suppose it'd be awesome to go to prison here (Satellite TV in your cell, no bullshit) for a few years and get a fucking HUGE payout when your appeal is accepted...
Mathematically speaking, for total hours served, it'd be far better than working to retirement and probably 400% better quality of life than the average wage.
If I heard someone downstairs, they better be made of kevlar, or be fond of have many holes inside themselves.
The police better clean up the mess too, I pay my taxes for a fucking reason.
I suppose it'd be awesome to go to prison here (Satellite TV in your cell, no bullshit) for a few years and get a fucking HUGE payout when your appeal is accepted...
Mathematically speaking, for total hours served, it'd be far better than working to retirement and probably 400% better quality of life than the average wage.
abandonconflict
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Sounds like it is more expensive than welfare.
If a resident is alerted and has the chance to vacate, then that is what they should do 10 times out of 10. Not sneak around with a shotgun firing into the dark where they know the perp is cornered.
Willfully confronting somebody is not how you best protect your life in these situations. Leaving is. Isn't the spirit of these sort of laws to protect your life? How does risking it needlessly to shoot the perp fall into that?
Willfully confronting somebody is not how you best protect your life in these situations. Leaving is. Isn't the spirit of these sort of laws to protect your life? How does risking it needlessly to shoot the perp fall into that?
SirGreenThumb
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No one is gonna run from someone in their own fucking house. Get your head out of your ass.
Where the fuck do you idiots come up with this logic.
Harrekin
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Its almost €98,000 per person per year to incarcerate someone here. There was a guy who was aquitted after three and a half years incarcerated here after shooting two burglars and got over four million dollars compensation (it was about 3.5mill euro) for time served.
Maths time, son.
Three and a half years is 30660 hours, the average work week is say 40 hours, so thats 766.5 "work weeks", which in 48 week years (4 weeks vacation)
is just under 16 years of work.
That would give him a "salary" of approximately $250,000 a year as opposed to whatever he was making as a farmer...
AND they had to give him his gun back.
As you can see, it wouldve been cheaper to have not imprisoned him in the first place.
11B4V....until the Army made me a zulu and sent me to unfuck some legs.
About the closest things I sat behind that resembled a "desk" had either .50's, 7.62's, or a 25MM cannon mounted on them.
Granted, a senior NCO isn't normally the number one muldoon through the breach, but that's because WE teach young pups like YOU to do the job. We ARE the ones, however, that end up cutting you young pups out of the twisted wreckage of a vehicle that gets blown the fuck up, so you and your buds don't have to deal with the mess, and we're also the ones that identify targets, and monitor and control your rates of fire...because y'all can sometimes get a little amped the fuck up. We do things like put your ass on details to get you off the line for a rest when you show signs of "fatigue", let you cry in a corner undisturbed when you need to, and make sure that all your buddies are carried off the objective and accounted for prior to exfil. We do a LOT of shit you young pups know NOTHING about, however, of all the things a senior line NCO does, THE most important thing we do is to make sure your team leaders, squad leaders, and platoon sergeants don't use good men to do a job that high explosives can do better, and in that, I was a motherfuckin' EXPERT.
Being a senior NCO, and a student of history, also meant that I fully understood that what WE did wasn't shyte compared to our forefathers due to the fact that Haj SUCKS, he had NO air assets, limited and largely ineffective indirect fire assets, no armor, and he had the marksmanship abilities and discipline of a mongoloid retard. Compare that with taking on the Wehrmact, the Imperial Japanese Army, the soviet equipped North Korean army, or the soviet equipped North Vietnamese army, and you'll find there IS no comparison.
We got over compared to our forefathers, but we don't choose our "wars", do we?
The way I see it, a home invader isn't any better than the tards' that were trying to kill you, me, and our friends. And like Haj, they'll TRY to hide their intent as long as possible so as not to get shot the fuck in the face.
Harrekin
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WORDZofWORDZCRAFT
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