billybob420
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Ford is gonna have to lay off people cause their cars suck.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
Layoffs coming...
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Winter Woman
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I know Ford should get those over here.
Red1966
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I mostly listen to the local traffic reports. If I want unbiased news, I come here because of the totally unbiased reporting available. jk
Winter Woman
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Are you really that naive to believe they couldn't find one millionaire that made jobs? Really?
kelly4
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But, their trucks are unbeatable!
Red1966
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The facts were not in dispute. It was an opinion as to what was contrary to facts. You assuming I even had an opinion on the subject is mistaken. Your opinion of what I think about myself is a self-serving misrepresentation. If you express a falsehood as the truth because you want it to be true, you are biased.
Winter Woman
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billybob420
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We already covered that.
billybob420
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And yeah, like I love hearing how many people died in Afghanistan today. Great stuff, makes me feel all warm and tingly inside.
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billybob420
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Am I dreaming? lol. jp
Ringsixty
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Boycott if you like.
Makes it easier for businesses to lay off more.
Bottom line
billybob420
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The idea is that you boycott bad businesses, yeah that sucks, they gotta close down and those people get laid off.
But than it opens up that bad company's market share to (hopefully) more honest and worthwhile companies. Which in turn hire more people.
That's the idea anyways. It's not that you stop buying chicken, you just stop buying it from those assholes over at Tyson.
Samwell Seed Well
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so we are damned if we do and damned if we dont . . . . . . . . i dont believe in corporate catch 22's
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Red1966
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No. I try to be honest with myself. Deluding one's self doesn't benefit me. While I am a conservative, I can recognize Fox news to be full of bias. Hannity, for example, shouting questions at his guests, but not allowing them to answer those questions, is just a partisan hack. MSNBC is nothing more than a 24/7 advocate for the Democrat party. They suppress real news that is unfavorable to the party, such as Obama's multiple votes to allow live born children to suffer merciless deaths, or his nearly free multimillion home he got for a pittance from Rezko, or the deaths of our people in Benghazi, while expressing mere opinions, or even pure distortions, as verified facts when they are clearly misrepresentations of facts.
StevenSD420
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this was close to something i mentioned way back on page 3, and has been ignored ever since. it's not surprising that everyone who is bitching about 'keeping' profits, does not have a solution to poverty and income disparity
Winter Woman
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When you work on a project for 3 years and bring it to market without getting any compensation during those years then - Yes, I want and deserve those profits.
btw there will never be a solution to poverty for some. My step-daughter is one of those.
Your comment on income disparity is nothing more than class envy.
StevenSD420
Active Member
Here's some research I went ahead to do for you; yes there are solutions, and no it's not class envy, it's a real problem that has helped lead to the WORLDS financial crisis today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobin_tax
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15555812
If you truly care to expand your mind; you'll do more research yourself.
And to even say that this is class envy, seriously shows what side of the argument you intend to stay on. We rape the shit out of poorer countries (the ones who give big corporations tax breaks to come in), and you don't think that model isn't coming into the American workforce?
That will not happen over here. The road tax structure is based on per gallon collections. Highly efficient cars will not get the governments approval here in the USA, too many states are dependent on the tax income. What else would explain cars in the 80's that got 50-60 MPG while only the most efficient hybrids can touch those numbers nearly 35 years later? If fuel efficiency was truly a large effort with government we should have vehicles getting 80-100 MPG by now.
If everyone buys a car that gets 70 MPG, the states now collect 70% less revenue. Think roads are going to be improved when 70% of the funding is reduced?
Something has to change with the fuel taxes before really efficient cars become a reality in the USA.
VW has Diesel Bluemotion Vehicles that get 70MPG in Europe, but because they emit too much emissions they cannot be sold in USA. NM the fact that the way they measure emissions doesn't take into account fuel efficiencies. The Bluemotion engines actually emit 1/2 the emissions of a EPA regulated car because they travel more than 300% further per gallon of fuel than the average US vehicle.
They build the Bluemotion TDI engine here in the USA.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/passat/first-drives/volkswagen-passat-bluemotion-1.6-tdi
Red1966
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Taxing exchange transactions to fund the corrupt UN's pet schemes is counter productive. The UNICEF used money donated to help poor children to arm rebel forces, who used those weapons slaughter to innocent civilians, including children. Your "expand your mind" seems to be just agreeing with you. You're advocating that we not trade with poor countries?