1982grower
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could be my fav plants yet. they look crazy. might try something like that for fun. take a year. I was thinkng of mounting a screen to my light setup 1 inch under the bulbs if the plants got uneven. looks like it works
large scale T-5 grow
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9inch bigbud
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yeild as more to do with the strain and how good the grower is and the method hes growing than what light you give it HPS or T5's. allthough im a HPS grower my self i could still grow more yeild under a T5 than some HPS growers do. if i use the SOG method and the HPS grower wastes time in veg growing just 3 plants, over all the gram per watt will be more using T5's
the best use of any light is fill the canopy as fast as you can i.e never waste more than 7 days in veg flick to 12/12 then your getting the most out of what ever light you use.
the GPW should take in to account the time taken in veg and flower to work out the true GPW not just the flower room.
the best use of any light is fill the canopy as fast as you can i.e never waste more than 7 days in veg flick to 12/12 then your getting the most out of what ever light you use.
the GPW should take in to account the time taken in veg and flower to work out the true GPW not just the flower room.
1982grower
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dizzzammmnnnn rizzzzziight!! lol well at least no one can say they dont like sog or scrog. they are crazy growing techniques!! those pics will shut anyone up. hope my cabinet looks like that in 2 weeks!!
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..... but, you don't know that plants don't use lumens?
substitute teacher? Nice scrog.... 2lbs wet maybe, still very nice. 
9inch bigbud
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hi 82
your best bet if you got the balls to do it is 1 plant ever 6 inches from the same clone (make sure its a yeilder and good smoke! once the roots shoot out veg no more than 7 days 3 days veg is good hit flower and i can tell you now a GPW is a pice of piss more like 1.25 GPW easy.
fuck scrog unless you dont want to risk lots of plants then SCROG is very good
KaliKitsune
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No, was 2 pounds dry...... but, you don't know that plants don't use lumens?
And yes I know plants don't use lumens since lumens is a measurement of GREEN light, I do professional photography as well!
But in order to balance that green light you have to have red and blue as well, so the measurement of green along with color temperature can give you an idea of how many candles of light in a given wavelength is output.
Or you can do the cheap way - buy a prism and split the light or look at the light through a spectrometer to check the spectral bands and their relative intensity.
If you want to get REALLY technical, find out the photon flux density of theemitted wavelengths, that'll really tell you how much usable light your plants are getting, plus an electron-volt measurement!
1982grower
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lumens are as important as everything else all else considered. if they didnt matter show me a 1 watt grow under your imaginary perfect light. lumens do matter as long as everything else is in check. 2 hpss of diff watts have the exact same light spectrum but obviously the extra watts constitutes extra lumens and = more bud. grow 2 pounds under a 400 in the same time as a 1000 and prove me wrong. the light spectrum is the same so you should be able to do it
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Then that's all there is to it. If you know it's a non-factor, yet bring it up to prove a point, no one is going to hear you. I pretty much stopped right there myself. So maybe you could stop spreading the bullshit and consider what's important.
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I'm just going to add your dumb ass to my ignore list.
KaliKitsune
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If you read the rest of my post I did post what's important and other methods of using lumen output to determine how much usable light you're actually getting. Oops on your part.
Also you said heat output/waste heat is measured in watts - no.
You measure heat in three forms - joules, BTU, and calories.
Watts is POWER. Not heat.
1982grower
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Yah i like many small plants so sog for sure. I think i am quiting the lowryder depending on yield per plant. i cant grow 50 plants to get 20 nice females every 45 days. to much work. i am switching to clones i think. i tried to clone the hempstar but it wouldnt clone well. i got one vegging right now. does rooting gel expire? i used 6 year old stuff honestly. i'll just use clonex next time. I want at least 20 females in there on 2 levels or vertical ebb and flow with 80+ plants. it would get some attention fore sure.
weedyoo
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veg= i have 2 t5HO about to get one more
bud = 400 hps 10.0 uvb t5HO with 3000k bulbs
love them but if i were you i would get the 4 bulb they are more lumnia
http://www.contractorlighting.com/high-fluorescent-4lmp-t5ho-120277-p-152.html?osCsid=8da3fb47aa26bb5c0bf27d4647ae1332 get them here
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/grow-bulbs-fluorescent-c-73.html
bud = 400 hps 10.0 uvb t5HO with 3000k bulbs
love them but if i were you i would get the 4 bulb they are more lumnia
http://www.contractorlighting.com/high-fluorescent-4lmp-t5ho-120277-p-152.html?osCsid=8da3fb47aa26bb5c0bf27d4647ae1332 get them here
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/grow-bulbs-fluorescent-c-73.html
1982grower
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i wouldadd myself to your ignore list if i could. why not sooner? just wanted to bother us eh?
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You've already said that plants don't use lumens, you're measuring shit that doesn't matter. WTF is so hard to understand about that?
Watts have a specific heat value... directly proportional. I don't understand your reasoning at all. Hell, when lamp manufactures rate their lamps for photosynthesis, they do it in watts (photosynthetical active radiation/PAR watts taken as a % of the lamps "power".... wattage). You keep throwing around this lumen bullshit, and you're just making it harder to advance the average grower.
KaliKitsune
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Learn how light reacts with other light wavelengths to produce white light before you talk any further. if I know how much green light is being output by a bulb, I can take the color temperature and with the lumen information I can find THE BALANCE OF RED AND BLUE LIGHT and determine if the bulb is worthwhile.
Or did you forget that RED BLUE AND GREEN light compromise the primary colors in additive color blending? if I'm getting 5,000 lumens, and I have an over-white bulb, then if there coul dbe a lumens measurement for red and blue light, it would be GREATER than the output green light.
It's that goddamned simple.
And no, when it comes to SI standards - it's measured in joules, not watts. BTU is directly output heat, joules is radiant heat. Calories has been moved from electrical to nutritional energy and is no longer part os SI standards.
It may be proportional but you're so off on your terminology. I'm glad I took an electrical engineering course.
9inch bigbud
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i dont use the stuff anymore i get colnes rooting with in 7 days just cut, spit,< (stick cut clone in mouth) plug in rockwool under CFL's and roots shoot.
look in to Northen Lights m8 the plant is the bomb for indor grows under light. they stay short and grow fat arse main colas
im getting some in the morning and i will cross them with my critical mass plant it will bring the time down to 6-7 weeks insted of 8-9 my critical mass yeilds like a mother fucker! direct from shantibaba him self if i can find a kick arse NL mom or dad then there will be nothing that comes close that iv ever seen for speed/yeild/ potancy!here is the critical mass im growing>http://mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=17
1982grower
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Actually i'll do northern lights for sure if they are good for indoor. I live in canada so northern lights clones and seeds are always available. I normally get roots in no time too but this time none. it must be the hempstar strain because it was all of them. normlly i get at least 80% and higher. Now that you said the yield is strong with northern lights i am sold. also seems like the canadian thing to do. let me know when you start. i might get some really soon then so i can veg some mothers.i dont use the stuff anymore i get colnes rooting with in 7 days just cut, spit,< (stick cut clone in mouth) plug in rockwool under CFL's and roots shoot.
look in to Northen Lights m8 the plant is the bomb for indor grows under light. they stay short and grow fat arse main colas
here is the critical mass im growing>http://mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=17
9inch bigbud
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there a few differant northen lights doing the rounds iv don my research and found even shanti as said sensi seeds have the true original when nevil sold up and gave ben donkers the rights to the name and plants they have the true NL when i do my cross ill send you some if you like open a PO BOX or send them to a safe house i will not send or resive seeds in the place i grow in.
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We don't use white light Spanky. I'm not going to play the "what if" game with you. Photosynthetically active radiation is most definitely not rated in joules bro, and 1 watt/hour equals 3.412 BTU (power = heat).
Also note that a joule is one watt per second. It doesn't matter what you call it; It's hot!9inch bigbud
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@ 1982
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4 Times Cup Winner!!!
Flowering: 45-50 days
Height: 100-125 cm
Yield: up to 125 gr
Northern Lights is one of three fundamental breeding strains that have changed the face of global cannabis culture over the last three decades. Apart from Skunk #1 and Haze, no variety comes close to matching Northern Lights’ influence on the world of weed. Whether you’re a smoker, a grower or a breeder, it's more than likely this strain has had a direct effect on your understanding of ganja. Virtually every cannabis enthusiast has, at the very least, had their day brightened by a fat bud of Northern Lights or one of her hybrid descendants. As far back as the Eighties, Northern Lights was setting the standard by which other Indicas are still judged and she remains one of the most trusted names and sought-after varieties in modern cannabis culture. For many years, Northern Lights dominated the various harvest festivals, winning cup after cup, leading to a more than one request that she be retired from competition in order to allow other strains a shot at the title.
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