..... but, you don't know that plants don't use lumens?
substitute teacher? Nice scrog.... 2lbs wet maybe, still very nice. 
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No, was 2 pounds dry...... but, you don't know that plants don't use lumens?
Then that's all there is to it. If you know it's a non-factor, yet bring it up to prove a point, no one is going to hear you. I pretty much stopped right there myself. So maybe you could stop spreading the bullshit and consider what's important.
I'm just going to add your dumb ass to my ignore list.
If you read the rest of my post I did post what's important and other methods of using lumen output to determine how much usable light you're actually getting. Oops on your part.
Yah i like many small plants so sog for sure. I think i am quiting the lowryder depending on yield per plant. i cant grow 50 plants to get 20 nice females every 45 days. to much work. i am switching to clones i think. i tried to clone the hempstar but it wouldnt clone well. i got one vegging right now. does rooting gel expire? i used 6 year old stuff honestly. i'll just use clonex next time. I want at least 20 females in there on 2 levels or vertical ebb and flow with 80+ plants. it would get some attention fore sure.
You've already said that plants don't use lumens, you're measuring shit that doesn't matter. WTF is so hard to understand about that?
Learn how light reacts with other light wavelengths to produce white light before you talk any further. if I know how much green light is being output by a bulb, I can take the color temperature and with the lumen information I can find THE BALANCE OF RED AND BLUE LIGHT and determine if the bulb is worthwhile.
i dont use the stuff anymore i get colnes rooting with in 7 days just cut, spit,< (stick cut clone in mouth) plug in rockwool under CFL's and roots shoot.
im getting some in the morning and i will cross them with my critical mass plant it will bring the time down to 6-7 weeks insted of 8-9 my critical mass yeilds like a mother fucker! direct from shantibaba him self if i can find a kick arse NL mom or dad then there will be nothing that comes close that iv ever seen for speed/yeild/ potancy!
Actually i'll do northern lights for sure if they are good for indoor. I live in canada so northern lights clones and seeds are always available. I normally get roots in no time too but this time none. it must be the hempstar strain because it was all of them. normlly i get at least 80% and higher. Now that you said the yield is strong with northern lights i am sold. also seems like the canadian thing to do. let me know when you start. i might get some really soon then so i can veg some mothers.i dont use the stuff anymore i get colnes rooting with in 7 days just cut, spit,< (stick cut clone in mouth) plug in rockwool under CFL's and roots shoot.
look in to Northen Lights m8 the plant is the bomb for indor grows under light. they stay short and grow fat arse main colas
here is the critical mass im growing>http://mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=17
there a few differant northen lights doing the rounds iv don my research and found even shanti as said sensi seeds have the true original when nevil sold up and gave ben donkers the rights to the name and plants they have the true NL when i do my cross ill send you some if you like open a PO BOX or send them to a safe house i will not send or resive seeds in the place i grow in.
We don't use white light Spanky. I'm not going to play the "what if" game with you. Photosynthetically active radiation is most definitely not rated in joules bro, and 1 watt/hour equals 3.412 BTU (power = heat).
Also note that a joule is one watt per second. It doesn't matter what you call it; It's hot!