1982grower
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could be my fav plants yet. they look crazy. might try something like that for fun. take a year. I was thinkng of mounting a screen to my light setup 1 inch under the bulbs if the plants got uneven. looks like it works
..... but, you don't know that plants don't use lumens? substitute teacher? Nice scrog.... 2lbs wet maybe, still very nice.I know my fucking lights.
hi 82could be my fav plants yet. they look crazy. might try something like that for fun. take a year. I was thinkng of mounting a screen to my light setup 1 inch under the bulbs if the plants got uneven. looks like it works
No, was 2 pounds dry...... but, you don't know that plants don't use lumens? substitute teacher? Nice scrog.... 2lbs wet maybe, still very nice.
Then that's all there is to it. If you know it's a non-factor, yet bring it up to prove a point, no one is going to hear you. I pretty much stopped right there myself. So maybe you could stop spreading the bullshit and consider what's important.And yes I know plants don't use lumens ....
I'm just going to add your dumb ass to my ignore list.lumens are as important as everything else all else considered. if they didnt matter show me a 1 watt grow under your imaginary perfect light. lumens do matter as long as everything else is in check. 2 hpss of diff watts have the exact same light spectrum but obviously the extra watts constitutes extra lumens and = more bud. grow 2 pounds under a 400 in the same time as a 1000 and prove me wrong. the light spectrum is the same so you should be able to do it
If you read the rest of my post I did post what's important and other methods of using lumen output to determine how much usable light you're actually getting. Oops on your part.Then that's all there is to it. If you know it's a non-factor, yet bring it up to prove a point, no one is going to hear you. I pretty much stopped right there myself. So maybe you could stop spreading the bullshit and consider what's important.
Yah i like many small plants so sog for sure. I think i am quiting the lowryder depending on yield per plant. i cant grow 50 plants to get 20 nice females every 45 days. to much work. i am switching to clones i think. i tried to clone the hempstar but it wouldnt clone well. i got one vegging right now. does rooting gel expire? i used 6 year old stuff honestly. i'll just use clonex next time. I want at least 20 females in there on 2 levels or vertical ebb and flow with 80+ plants. it would get some attention fore sure.hi 82
your best bet if you got the balls to do it is 1 plant ever 6 inches from the same clone (make sure its a yeilder and good smoke! once the roots shoot out veg no more than 7 days 3 days veg is good hit flower and i can tell you now a GPW is a pice of piss more like 1.25 GPW easy.
fuck scrog unless you dont want to risk lots of plants then SCROG is very good
You've already said that plants don't use lumens, you're measuring shit that doesn't matter. WTF is so hard to understand about that?If you read the rest of my post I did post what's important and other methods of using lumen output to determine how much usable light you're actually getting. Oops on your part.
Also you said heat output/waste heat is measured in watts - no.
You measure heat in three forms - joules, BTU, and calories.
Watts is POWER. Not heat.
Learn how light reacts with other light wavelengths to produce white light before you talk any further. if I know how much green light is being output by a bulb, I can take the color temperature and with the lumen information I can find THE BALANCE OF RED AND BLUE LIGHT and determine if the bulb is worthwhile.You've already said that plants don't use lumens, you're measuring shit that doesn't matter. WTF is hard to understand about that?
Watts have a specific heat value... directly proportional. I don't understand your reasoning at all.
i dont use the stuff anymore i get colnes rooting with in 7 days just cut, spit,< (stick cut clone in mouth) plug in rockwool under CFL's and roots shoot.Yah i like many small plants so sog for sure. I think i am quiting the lowryder depending on yield per plant. i cant grow 50 plants to get 20 nice females every 45 days. to much work. i am switching to clones i think. i tried to clone the hempstar but it wouldnt clone well. i got one vegging right now. does rooting gel expire? i used 6 year old stuff honestly. i'll just use clonex next time. I want at least 20 females in there on 2 levels or vertical ebb and flow with 80+ plants. it would get some attention fore sure.
Actually i'll do northern lights for sure if they are good for indoor. I live in canada so northern lights clones and seeds are always available. I normally get roots in no time too but this time none. it must be the hempstar strain because it was all of them. normlly i get at least 80% and higher. Now that you said the yield is strong with northern lights i am sold. also seems like the canadian thing to do. let me know when you start. i might get some really soon then so i can veg some mothers.i dont use the stuff anymore i get colnes rooting with in 7 days just cut, spit,< (stick cut clone in mouth) plug in rockwool under CFL's and roots shoot.
look in to Northen Lights m8 the plant is the bomb for indor grows under light. they stay short and grow fat arse main colas im getting some in the morning and i will cross them with my critical mass plant it will bring the time down to 6-7 weeks insted of 8-9 my critical mass yeilds like a mother fucker! direct from shantibaba him self if i can find a kick arse NL mom or dad then there will be nothing that comes close that iv ever seen for speed/yeild/ potancy!
here is the critical mass im growing>http://mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=17
there a few differant northen lights doing the rounds iv don my research and found even shanti as said sensi seeds have the true original when nevil sold up and gave ben donkers the rights to the name and plants they have the true NL when i do my cross ill send you some if you like open a PO BOX or send them to a safe house i will not send or resive seeds in the place i grow in.Actually i'll do northern lights for sure if they are good for indoor. I live in canada so northern lights clones and seeds are always available. I normally get roots in no time too but this time none. it must be the hempstar strain because it was all of them. normlly i get at least 80% and higher. Now that you said the yield is strong with northern lights i am sold. also seems like the canadian thing to do. let me know when you start. i might get some really soon then so i can veg some mothers.
We don't use white light Spanky. I'm not going to play the "what if" game with you. Photosynthetically active radiation is most definitely not rated in joules bro, and 1 watt/hour equals 3.412 BTU (power = heat). Also note that a joule is one watt per second. It doesn't matter what you call it; It's hot!Learn how light reacts with other light wavelengths to produce white light before you talk any further. if I know how much green light is being output by a bulb, I can take the color temperature and with the lumen information I can find THE BALANCE OF RED AND BLUE LIGHT and determine if the bulb is worthwhile.
Or did you forget that RED BLUE AND GREEN light compromise the primary colors in additive color blending? if I'm getting 5,000 lumens, and I have an over-white bulb, thenif there coul dbe a lumens measurement for red and blue light, it would be GREATER than the output green light.
It's that goddamned simple.
And no, when it comes to SI standards - it's measured in joules, not watts. BTU is directly output heat, joules is radiant heat. Calories has been moved from electrical to nutritional energy and is no longer part os SI standards.
It may be proportional but you're so off on your terminology. I'm glad I took an electrical engineering course.