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Fogdog · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
I have and far more extensively than I would have preferred. Such are the woes of a youth spent in the military. Do you EVER post anything remotely accurate?

As to the rest, fuck the rest of the world, their opinion and our effect on them. I couldn't give a shit less about the opinions of this country's liberals, let alone ones from socialist cesspools abroad.

I agree that the opinion of the rest of the world is not as important as yours. So great leader, what socialist cesspools are you referring too?

Flaming Pie · Jul 31, 2015

Question:

A white male is listening to a rap song. He begins to sing along. Is it ok to say Nigga if the next word in the song is Nigga?

Does he sing every word except for nigga? Like a radio edit? Why doesn't the radio edit that out?

If he normally enjoys singing the song at home should he hide that fact from his black friends?

MuyLocoNC · Jul 31, 2015

Fogdog said:
I agree that the opinion of the rest of the world is not as important as yours. So great leader, what socialist cesspools are you referring too?

You're correct insofar as the opinion of one U.S. citizen being far more important than the opinion of billions of foreigners, in relation to our policies and laws.

Take your pick of countries, I wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of them.

The_Herban_Legend · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
You're correct insofar as the opinion of one U.S. citizen being far more important than the opinion of billions of foreigners, in relation to our policies and laws.

Take your pick of countries, I wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of them.

Not even China who helps fund your social services, suffering from PTS?

MuyLocoNC · Jul 31, 2015

The_Herban_Legend said:
Not even China who helps funds your social services, suffering from PTS?

Lol, the only stress I experience is when I watch my son box.

No, especially not China. They're not MY social services, I oppose the entire concept.

The_Herban_Legend · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
Lol, the only stress I experience is when I watch my son box.

No, especially not China. They're not MY social services, I oppose the entire concept.

How can you oppose helping humanity and those less fortunate? I bet your kids will take advantage of the GI bill? Is that not a form of social service? After all, it would be the tax payers paying for their tuition.

Fogdog · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
You're correct insofar as the opinion of one U.S. citizen being far more important than the opinion of billions of foreigners, in relation to our policies and laws.

Take your pick of countries, I wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of them.

Oh great one, I'm not aware of any purely socialist countries. Please illuminate my feeble mind.

MuyLocoNC · Jul 31, 2015

The_Herban_Legend said:
How can you oppose helping humanity and those less fortunate? I bet your kids will take advantage of the GI bill? Is that not a form of social service? After all, it would be the tax payers paying for their tuition.

Easily.

Wrong again, but close. Full ROTC scholarship to VMI. Simply a fair market transaction. A college education in exchange for eight years of military service as a commissioned officer, with pay.

The_Herban_Legend · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
Easily.

Wrong again, but close. Full ROTC scholarship to VMI. Simply a fair market transaction. A college education in exchange for eight years of military service as a commissioned officer, with pay.

I hate to break it to you, but your 8 years of service, does not cover the cost of one college tuition. I

MuyLocoNC said:
Easily.

Wrong again, but close. Full ROTC scholarship to VMI. Simply a fair market transaction. A college education in exchange for eight years of military service as a commissioned officer, with pay.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. It's a shame that there are people in the U.S. that still have your antiquated views. Good luck to you, and tell your kids I said they are welcome.

MuyLocoNC · Jul 31, 2015

The_Herban_Legend said:
I hate to break it to you, but your 8 years of service, does not cover the cost of one college tuition. I

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. It's a shame that there are people in the U.S. that still have your antiquated views. Good luck to you, and tell your kids I said they are welcome.

To the first, that's simply your opinion. Some would say that committing eight years of your life to the dangers of military service for a college education is a terrible deal for the individual. Especially when the military reaps the benefits of that education.

My son would most likely respond, you, are in fact, welcome. It's the willingness to serve and so called antiquated views that make your laughably naive views possible. Good luck to you and yours as well.

The_Herban_Legend · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
To the first, that's simply your opinion. Some would say that committing eight years of your life to the dangers of military service for a college education is a terrible deal for the individual. Especially when the military reaps the benefits of that education.

My son would most likely respond, you, are in fact, welcome. It's the willingness to serve and so called antiquated views that make your laughably naive views possible. Good luck to you and yours as well.

No doubt you are entitled to a college education for your service. Remind me again how many years your son served in the military? Oh, that's right, he didn't serve, yet he is eligible for a free college education. Anyways, I have to go, enjoy your sons free education. Isn't it nice that someone is there to help you pay for your son's tuition, whether it be through the GI bill or scholarship?

MuyLocoNC · Jul 31, 2015

The_Herban_Legend said:
No doubt you are entitled to a college education for your service. Remind me again how many years your son served in the military? Oh, that's right, he didn't serve, yet he is eligible for a free college education. Anyways, I have to go, enjoy your sons free education. Isn't it nice that someone is there to help you pay for your son's tuition, whether it be through the GI bill or scholarship?

Yes, he is eligible for a free college education, as are any other qualified applicants that meet the standards and survive the selection process. When he signs on the dotted line, commits to the deal and shows up for his first day, he's locked in.

Isn't it nice there are intelligent, patriotic young men willing to give eight years of their lives in service to their country in exchange for an education that will also be used to serve their country?

His proud father was happy to, and actually offered to write a check for the entire $200k tuition and expenses that VMI commands for a four year degree, to no avail.

Fogdog · Jul 31, 2015

Flaming Pie said:
Question:

A white male is listening to a rap song. He begins to sing along. Is it ok to say Nigga if the next word in the song is Nigga?

Does he sing every word except for nigga? Like a radio edit? Why doesn't the radio edit that out?

If he normally enjoys singing the song at home should he hide that fact from his black friends?

The sub-thread with Tjack was about social interactions and what's socially acceptable language to use in an adult world within the context of racial issues. What's acceptable in a person's choice of music and arts among the youth is different. Listening to music that alienates, inflames or outrages older generations is a rite of passage for young adults. I'm good with that. If somebody is singing along to popular music with lyrics that are salty or use the n word, well, it's maybe poor taste but not an outrage in my opinion.

There are some nazi-racist metal bands and I'm guessing maybe some hardcore racist rap music out there. Not OK.

I don't understand the use of the n word between young black men. I don't understand why young women listen to music with misogynist lyrics. I'm not sure if it reflects a healthy self image. On the other hand, I laugh when white kids in my neighborhood drive around with rap booming from their cars. I think that listening to bad music is a part of growing up. They are so far away from the culture that they are imitating that it's funny but I respect their right to do so.

So, you brought up a complicated question regarding what's acceptable in the arts and I have no answer, only my opinion. Listening to and singing along with rap music by a black artist that uses the n word shows poor taste but not an outrage. Maybe somebody else has a better answer.

schuylaar · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
It's a good thing we don't give a fuck what a bunch of people, who we need to be the polar opposite of, think about us. Fuck them and their philosophies and lifestyles. This is the last refuge for people trying to escape that very mindset.

Fortunately, for liberal asshats, the entire rest of the world offers a veritable smorgasbord of socialist paradises. We cordially invite you to fuck off to any one of those shitholes if you actually believe your own bullshit.

All the Nordic countries broadly agree that only when people's basic needs are met — when they cease to worry about jobs, education, healthcare, transportation, etc. — can they truly be free to do as they like. While the U.S. settles for the fantasy that every kid has an equal shot at the American dream, Nordic social welfare systems lay the foundations for a more authentic equality and individualism.

These ideas are not novel. They are implied in the preamble to our own Constitution. You know, the part about "We the People" forming "a more perfect Union" to "promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."

The_Herban_Legend · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
Yes, he is eligible for a free college education, as are any other qualified applicants that meet the standards and survive the selection process. When he signs on the dotted line, commits to the deal and shows up for his first day, he's locked in.

Isn't it nice there are intelligent, patriotic young men willing to give eight years of their lives in service to their country in exchange for an education that will also be used to serve their country?

His proud father was happy to, and actually offered to write a check for the entire $200k tuition and expenses that VMI commands for a four year degree, to no avail.

Able to write a 200k check for tuition, yet has no empathy for those less fortunate. Good day sir.

schuylaar · Jul 31, 2015

Fogdog said:
The sub-thread with Tjack was about social interactions and what's socially acceptable language to use in an adult world within the context of racial issues. What's acceptable in a person's choice of music and arts among the youth is different. Listening to music that alienates, inflames or outrages older generations is a rite of passage for young adults. I'm good with that. If somebody is singing along to popular music with lyrics that are salty or use the n word, well, it's maybe poor taste but not an outrage in my opinion.

There are some nazi-racist metal bands and I'm guessing maybe some hardcore racist rap music out there. Not OK.

I don't understand the use of the n word between young black men. I don't understand why young women listen to music with misogynist lyrics. I'm not sure if it reflects a healthy self image. On the other hand, I laugh when white kids in my neighborhood drive around with rap booming from their cars. I think that listening to bad music is a part of growing up. They are so far away from the culture that they are imitating that it's funny but I respect their right to do so.

So, you brought up a complicated question regarding what's acceptable in the arts and I have no answer, only my opinion. Maybe somebody else has a better answer.

terms of endearment to be used only between each other or unless you are part of the group.

it never truly can be anyone's but theirs..a badge of sorts..totally from slave days.

we can call ourselves nigger, but you can't..it's not a negative; it's a positive, almost trophy like in nature.

Fogdog · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
Yes, he is eligible for a free college education, as are any other qualified applicants that meet the standards and survive the selection process. When he signs on the dotted line, commits to the deal and shows up for his first day, he's locked in.

Isn't it nice there are intelligent, patriotic young men willing to give eight years of their lives in service to their country in exchange for an education that will also be used to serve their country?

His proud father was happy to, and actually offered to write a check for the entire $200k tuition and expenses that VMI commands for a four year degree, to no avail.

Here's to your son coming through his service whole and more enlightened than you.

MuyLocoNC · Jul 31, 2015

The_Herban_Legend said:
Able to write a 200k check for tuition, yet has no empathy for those less fortunate. Good day sir.

Fortune had nothing to do with it.

MuyLocoNC · Jul 31, 2015

Fogdog said:
Here's to your son coming through his service whole and more enlightened than you.

Much to my surprise, he's actually more Conservative than I am. It would probably blow his mind if he ever found out his dad smokes weed and actually grew it once.

Thank you for your kind wishes for his wellbeing.

The_Herban_Legend · Jul 31, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
Much to my surprise, he's actually more Conservative than I am. It would probably blow his mind if he ever found out his dad smokes weed and actually grew it once.

Thank you for your kind wishes for his wellbeing.

I'm surprised that your use of cannabis, has not opened your narrow mind. Are you having a hard time finding potent meds?

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