January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

CatHedral

CatHedral

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/28/politics/donald-trump-wall-street-journal-letter/index.html
that ^ doesn't seem to support your hypothesis...at least one main stream media giant will give him a voice, even if they don't support him officially...
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Consider strategy. Did the WSJ endorse the letter, or put it out there to put paid to plausible denial? I’m not certain.

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Wall Street Journal - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slight to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words
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Also the WSJ scores fairly far right and gets the third class for veracity. So I’m willing to treat this as a minority report.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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CatHedral said:
Consider strategy. Did the WSJ endorse the letter, or put it out there to put paid to plausible denial? I’m not certain.

www.google.com

Wall Street Journal - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slight to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words
www.google.com www.google.com

Also the WSJ scores fairly far right and gets the third class for veracity. So I’m willing to treat this as a minority report.
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i find it suspicious that a paper owned by rupert murdoch, a paper that has never even tried to actually hold him to account for his crimes, is now trying to "let trump hang himself" on his own words....it seems much more likely to me that trump called in a favor, maybe his last favor, from his billionaire boys club buddy, and murdoch gave in, giving trump some legitimacy in the eyes of his followers, if not in anyone else's
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i find it suspicious that a paper owned by rupert murdoch, a paper that has never even tried to actually hold him to account for his crimes, is now trying to "let trump hang himself" on his own words....it seems much more likely to me that trump called in a favor, maybe his last favor, from his billionaire boys club buddy, and murdoch gave in, giving trump some legitimacy in the eyes of his followers, if not in anyone else's
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Plausible
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i find it suspicious that a paper owned by rupert murdoch, a paper that has never even tried to actually hold him to account for his crimes, is now trying to "let trump hang himself" on his own words....it seems much more likely to me that trump called in a favor, maybe his last favor, from his billionaire boys club buddy, and murdoch gave in, giving trump some legitimacy in the eyes of his followers, if not in anyone else's
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And my bet it involves Epstein
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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CatHedral said:
Consider strategy. Did the WSJ endorse the letter, or put it out there to put paid to plausible denial? I’m not certain.

www.google.com

Wall Street Journal - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slight to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words
www.google.com www.google.com

Also the WSJ scores fairly far right and gets the third class for veracity. So I’m willing to treat this as a minority report.
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I think of it as a Rupert Murdoch pushing more Russian propaganda even if it is also negging Trump.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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hanimmal said:
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this all points out how stupid America has become...to elect someone that stupid, you have to be even stupider than they are...which leads me back to my argument that makes you all so nervous...we need to test people before they vote, to make sure they aren't complete and total fucking morons, who should have no say in how the country is run, or by whom...rights come with responsibilities, and until you grind that into people, they will refuse to deal with those responsibilities, and continue to bleat like sheep about their "god given rights"...even though god doesn't grant rights, governments do
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
this all points out how stupid America has become...to elect someone that stupid, you have to be even stupider than they are...which leads me back to my argument that makes you all so nervous...we need to test people before they vote, to make sure they aren't complete and total fucking morons, who should have no say in how the country is run, or by whom...rights come with responsibilities, and until you grind that into people, they will refuse to deal with those responsibilities, and continue to bleat like sheep about their "god given rights"...even though god doesn't grant rights, governments do
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The exercise for the reader is to propose the general features of a voter eligibility test that is stable and operates in a reasonably incorrupt manner.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
this all points out how stupid America has become...to elect someone that stupid, you have to be even stupider than they are...which leads me back to my argument that makes you all so nervous...we need to test people before they vote, to make sure they aren't complete and total fucking morons, who should have no say in how the country is run, or by whom...rights come with responsibilities, and until you grind that into people, they will refuse to deal with those responsibilities, and continue to bleat like sheep about their "god given rights"...even though god doesn't grant rights, governments do
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I don't care how 'smart' someone is, they can still be conned, racist, xenophobic chauvinist, etc.

We would be better off having our political leaders be regulated and held accountable for lying to the public as soon as they register to run for a public office.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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rkymtnman said:
i love how these tough guys like the oath keepers and proud bois either 1. start ratting out others as soon as they face jail time and 2. complain about poor conditions in jail. bunch of posers.
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Im sure that they are also all ones that have laughed at people when they talked about the mistreatment of 'criminals' in the past too.

As much as I would love to see Trump and his criminal syndicate have his head slammed on a cop car, I still hope that they gently push his head in when he is hopefully one day arrested.

Although I'd be lying if I say I didn't get a great deal of enjoyment out of watching this propagandist getting slammed.

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rkymtnman

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hanimmal said:
Im sure that they are also all ones that have laughed at people when they talked about the mistreatment of 'criminals' in the past too.

As much as I would love to see Trump and his criminal syndicate have his head slammed on a cop car, I still hope that they gently push his head in when he is hopefully one day arrested.

Although I'd be lying if I say I didn't get a great deal of enjoyment out of watching this propagandist getting slammed.

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wasn't that the guy from FL that was pretty high up in the trump camp? can't place his name now
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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hanimmal said:
I don't care how 'smart' someone is, they can still be conned, racist, xenophobic chauvinist, etc.

We would be better off having our political leaders be regulated and held accountable for lying to the public as soon as they register to run for a public office.
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we would be better teaching kids that rights and responsibilities are indivisible, and you cannot have one without meeting the other
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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hanimmal said:
I don't care how 'smart' someone is, they can still be conned, racist, xenophobic chauvinist, etc.

We would be better off having our political leaders be regulated and held accountable for lying to the public as soon as they register to run for a public office.
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i'm not suggesting an intelligence test, but an awareness test...you CANNOT make an intelligent decision without doing a little homework. listening to podcasts and reading facebook posts is not homework, it's what lazy fucks do to avoid homework. how can you make an informed decision when you the only information you have is biased and just plain wrong? if you have no idea what the basic platforms of the candidates are, then you shouldn't have a say in the election. if you don't have a basic understanding of the issues that directly effect your community, then why should you have a say in how they're dealt with? if you have no understanding at all of national issues, why should anyone give a fuck what you think about them?
i get your point, unethical people will try to use testing as a way to exclude people who should be allowed to vote...but i do not accept that we should let ignorant lazy assholes have a say in the running of any kind of government, local state or federal...
 
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