January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

schuylaar

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Bannon can just say he is within his rights as he is just following the advice of his lawyer. It will take some court cases before it is settled and by that time the Republicans will have won back enough seats to be the majority and kill the investigation.
i disagree. dems usually peter out for the locals- not anymore..not withTrump and BallotTrax..you get a call or text if you don't return it..they send text when mailed; i have mail notification to see it incoming and will be walking it back to the dropbox in front of City Hall that's guarded and on camera; they make a bi-partisan pickup every few hours.

i myself used to think every four years and i was off the hook; if you want a piece of it you need to take part.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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None of them will be indicted much less spend a day in jail, from what I've seen of Garland he won't do shit about it. Only 600 of the insurrectionist were indicted and they could convict thousands of the fucks. He never brought anybody out of retirement to handle the extra load and it will be too much of a burden to prosecute these assholes too. Biden should have appointed an ex republican fire breather to be AG, some disgusted patriot who would freak out on them and be proud to say so. Garland still thinks he's a judge, he's not, he's the sword and shield of the constitution and the rule of law, he's not suppose to be neutral, he's suppose to defend Uncle Sam inside the borders of the USA.
 

CunningCanuk

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None of them will be indicted much less spend a day in jail, from what I've seen of Garland he won't do shit about it. Only 600 of the insurrectionist were indicted and they could convict thousands of the fucks. He never brought anybody out of retirement to handle the extra load and it will be too much of a burden to prosecute these assholes too. Biden should have appointed an ex republican fire breather to be AG, some disgusted patriot who would freak out on them and be proud to say so. Garland still thinks he's a judge, he's not, he's the sword and shield of the constitution and the rule of law, he's not suppose to be neutral, he's suppose to defend Uncle Sam inside the borders of the USA.
To be fair, you don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors. I think you’re wrong about Garland. I hope so, anyway.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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To be fair, you don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors. I think you’re wrong about Garland. I hope so, anyway.
I hope so too, but his performance with the rioters is not a good indicator. He is waiting for NY state to do Trump and I understand why, there's a mid term election coming up and they need to retain power. From what is coming out about Bannon and Trump on the insurrection, they should be hung. I think Garland still believes he's a judge, he is not, his roll in this situation is that of Uncle Sam's warrior and there is nothing wrong with being aggressive and vocal about it. These people are traitors and need to be regarded as such by him publicly. He's the goddamned prosecutor for FFS and should not be displaying such moral ambiguity, he should be scaring the living shit out of every republican who had a hand in the insurrection. I figure he's waiting for the select committee report and the grand jury indictments before he makes a move. However he is allowed to talk an aggressive game until then and haul congress people and senators in for FBI interviews and look these pricks in the eye during congressional meetings and tell them exactly what he thinks of them and their treason to the constitution. If the shoe were on the other foot I can assure you the republicans would be seeking the death penalty and have the FBI on the carpet for not tracking down EVERYBODY who was on the capitol grounds.

Let's see what he does about Bannon, he doesn't need two weeks to mull it over, he is up to speed minute by minute.
 

CunningCanuk

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I hope so too, but his performance with the rioters is not a good indicator. He is waiting for NY state to do Trump and I understand why, there's a mid term election coming up and they need to retain power. From what is coming out about Bannon and Trump on the insurrection, they should be hung. I think Garland still believes he's a judge, he is not, his roll in this situation is that of Uncle Sam's warrior and there is nothing wrong with being aggressive and vocal about it. These people are traitors and need to be regarded as such by him publicly. He's the goddamned prosecutor for FFS and should not be displaying such moral ambiguity, he should be scaring the living shit out of every republican who had a hand in the insurrection. I figure he's waiting for the select committee report and the grand jury indictments before he makes a move. However he is allowed to talk an aggressive game until then and haul congress people and senators in for FBI interviews and look these pricks in the eye during congressional meetings and tell them exactly what he thinks of them and their treason to the constitution. If the shoe were on the other foot I can assure you the republicans would be seeking the death penalty and have the FBI on the carpet for not tracking down EVERYBODY who was on the capitol grounds.

Let's see what he does about Bannon, he doesn't need two weeks to mull it over, he is up to speed minute by minute.
Garland doesn’t strike me as the bombastic type and I think that’s a good thing.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Garland doesn’t strike me as the bombastic type and I think that’s a good thing.
I think a bit of public freaking out would be in order, as I said, Joe could have picked a patriotic conservative fire breather a former republican, who would raising blisters on plenty of arses by now. The problems with garland are lack of aggression and moral indifference. They attacked the country, constitution, rule of law, congress and democracy, in an violent unprecedented way and ended the 240 year history of the peaceful transfer of power, where is the outrage? More importantly where is the enthusiasm for the constitution, democracy and the rule of law? Garland still thinks he's a federal judge and I suspect he lacks the emotional flexibility to appreciate and exploit his new role in the justice system. He's suppose to be a warrior for the constitution, not a pussy, those he is confronting don't respect pussies, they respect strength, they use fear and trust me, they will respond to fear.

It's really not much different than with the anti vaxxers and mandates, these people use fear against others and respond to it too. The whole republican party is fear driven by Donald's lash and the lunatic base he controls, they have proven what motivates them the most, fear. The right AG has the power to put the fear of Jesus into them and right now they are still pretty bold and acting cocky. Look no further than Matt Gaetz to see the power that fear has over these assholes, he's STFU lately and knows he's looking at a 10 year mandatory minimum. Fear is what you use on assholes who employ it on others themselves, it's very effective on those who stand for nothing but their own self interest.
 

Fogdog

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I think a bit of public freaking out would be in order, as I said, Joe could have picked a patriotic conservative fire breather a former republican, who would raising blisters on plenty of arses by now. The problems with garland are lack of aggression and moral indifference. They attacked the country, constitution, rule of law, congress and democracy, in an violent unprecedented way and ended the 240 year history of the peaceful transfer of power, where is the outrage? More importantly where is the enthusiasm for the constitution, democracy and the rule of law? Garland still thinks he's a federal judge and I suspect he lacks the emotional flexibility to appreciate and exploit his new role in the justice system. He's suppose to be a warrior for the constitution, not a pussy, those he is confronting don't respect pussies, they respect strength, they use fear and trust me, they will respond to fear.

It's really not much different than with the anti vaxxers and mandates, these people use fear against others and respond to it too. The whole republican party is fear driven by Donald's lash and the lunatic base he controls, they have proven what motivates them the most, fear. The right AG has the power to put the fear of Jesus into them and right now they are still pretty bold and acting cocky. Look no further than Matt Gaetz to see the power that fear has over these assholes, he's STFU lately and knows he's looking at a 10 year mandatory minimum. Fear is what you use on assholes who employ it on others themselves, it's very effective on those who stand for nothing but their own self interest.
So we need somebody like you for AG?
 

CunningCanuk

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After watching 4 years of the most politicized justice department in history, a Justice department with even the appearance of being apolitical is refreshing.

yes, Garland was a judge, but before that he was a federal prosecutor and he knows how to build and prosecute a case.

I think the hammer is coming down.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Watching the HBO doc Four Hours at the Capitol.

About 40 minutes in this "activist filmmaker" is shooting himself smoking and sharing 7 joints of Pinkberry in the rotunda. He posits that the weed might have prevented some really scary shit from happening. He might be right. Maybe the Capitol Popo should add it to their arsenal.

The best part is that he is wearing American flag pants like Rex in Napoleon Dynamite - but about three sizes too small.

"Take a look at what I'm wearing, people. You think anybody wants a roundhouse kick to the face while I'm wearing these bad boys? Forget about it."
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People are saying that this was Antifa operation.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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After watching 4 years of the most politicized justice department in history, a Justice department with even the appearance of being apolitical is refreshing.

yes, Garland was a judge, but before that he was a federal prosecutor and he knows how to build and prosecute a case.

I think the hammer is coming down.
I hope he's the patient and methodical kind, but he's only prosecuted a fraction of the insurrectionists and asked of lighter sentences than the judges delivered. We will see how long it takes to indict Bannon. I figure he wants NY state to do Donald for him and put him muzzled, in a maximum security prison cell, while they rip his financial operation the pieces. Joe will have clean hands and Trump will be beyond federal pardon power in NY too. I think the midterm elections are weighing heavily on any decisions and their timing, the closer to the election when the shit really hits the fan the better. However Donald and his minions are still walking around and I figure Rudy will die of old age before he sees a courtroom. Putting Bannon away for 6 months would only sober him up and make him even more dangerous. I'm hoping for multiple federal conspiracy indictments for the lot of them.
 

Fogdog

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I hope he's the patient and methodical kind, but he's only prosecuted a fraction of the insurrectionists and asked of lighter sentences than the judges delivered. We will see how long it takes to indict Bannon. I figure he wants NY state to do Donald for him and put him muzzled, in a maximum security prison cell, while they rip his financial operation the pieces. Joe will have clean hands and Trump will be beyond federal pardon power in NY too. I think the midterm elections are weighing heavily on any decisions and their timing, the closer to the election when the shit really hits the fan the better. However Donald and his minions are still walking around and I figure Rudy will die of old age before he sees a courtroom. Putting Bannon away for 6 months would only sober him up and make him even more dangerous. I'm hoping for multiple federal conspiracy indictments for the lot of them.
Perhaps you have trouble distinguishing what you want vs what is possible?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Perhaps you have trouble distinguishing what you want vs what is possible?
A lot of people have issues with that! I do see an apparent 2 tier system of justice, from the reports that I've seen there is a mountain of evidence against Trump and many of his minions. I understand there are reasons of timing and political considerations. NY state has Trump by the balls and they are squeezing, so I can understand Garland waiting for congress to report and uncover evidence, but not the FBI! It's the appearance that is the issue, regular folks go to prison slam dunk every day of the week, some of these fucks will die of old age before they see a day in court, much less a prison.

I guess I think overthrowing the government is a serious issue and ya don't want repeat performances. But the problem is not really with the government or the courts, the problem is bigots have been abusing them and distorting civil society from a community, into a collection of frightened individuals, who gathered into a tribe lead by a psycho.
 
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