January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

hanimmal

hanimmal

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
we would be better teaching kids that rights and responsibilities are indivisible, and you cannot have one without meeting the other
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I have no problem teaching kids that, but instead of testing people to create a second class of citizen, I would prefer to hold our elected officials to a higher level of public service.

Roger A. Shrubber said:
i'm not suggesting an intelligence test, but an awareness test...you CANNOT make an intelligent decision without doing a little homework. listening to podcasts and reading facebook posts is not homework, it's what lazy fucks do to avoid homework. how can you make an informed decision when you the only information you have is biased and just plain wrong? if you have no idea what the basic platforms of the candidates are, then you shouldn't have a say in the election. if you don't have a basic understanding of the issues that directly effect your community, then why should you have a say in how they're dealt with? if you have no understanding at all of national issues, why should anyone give a fuck what you think about them?
i get your point, unethical people will try to use testing as a way to exclude people who should be allowed to vote...but i do not accept that we should let ignorant lazy assholes have a say in the running of any kind of government, local state or federal...
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I guess at the end of the day I would disagree with anything that limits or slows people's ability to access their right to vote. It used to be land owners only having the right to vote, and since then a slow march to getting to where we finally have enough of the 100% of the nation having the ability to vote that we are just now getting to having one party truly representing 100% of the population.

I would hate to see us go backwards just because the old rich white assholes are tricking their cult into being complete assholes and trying to install a dictatorship.

Roger A. Shrubber said:
this ^ i can get behind...it would have disqualified trump from ever being elected, or even running
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And almost all of the insurrectionist RINO's, and likely a few Manchurian candidates in the Democratic party.

If politicians need to lie, we would be better off if they would just keep their mouths shut.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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hanimmal said:
instead of testing people to create a second class of citizen, I would prefer to hold our elected officials to a higher level of public service.
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that's the dream. we wouldn't be creating a second class of citizen, they already exist, and they have rights and privileges they don't deserve, and that is the very definition of entitlement...our whole society is built on undeserved entitlement.
how can you expect people who have grown up in that system, with that level of entitlement, to have morals and ethics?
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
that's the dream. we wouldn't be creating a second class of citizen, they already exist, and they have rights and privileges they don't deserve, and that is the very definition of entitlement...our whole society is built on undeserved entitlement.
how can you expect people who have grown up in that system, with that level of entitlement, to have morals and ethics?
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Who said I expect them to? That is why we would need to have legislation to keep them from lying/conning the masses to maintain their power.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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hanimmal said:
Who said I expect them to? That is why we would need to have legislation to keep them from lying/conning the masses to maintain their power.
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that would stop them from making blatant statements, but you can only trust an egg sucking dog when you're watching him...the minute your back is turned....the real solution is educating the masses, but a large part of the masses are happy being ignorant...so i say let them be ignorant, just don't let them have any say in important decisions
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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hanimmal said:
I have no problem teaching kids that, but instead of testing people to create a second class of citizen, I would prefer to hold our elected officials to a higher level of public service.


I guess at the end of the day I would disagree with anything that limits or slows people's ability to access their right to vote. It used to be land owners only having the right to vote, and since then a slow march to getting to where we finally have enough of the 100% of the nation having the ability to vote that we are just now getting to having one party truly representing 100% of the population.

I would hate to see us go backwards just because the old rich white assholes are tricking their cult into being complete assholes and trying to install a dictatorship.


And almost all of the insurrectionist RINO's, and likely a few Manchurian candidates in the Democratic party.

If politicians need to lie, we would be better off if they would just keep their mouths shut.
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Isnt RINO the term for non-Repugs?
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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hanimmal said:
Who said I expect them to? That is why we would need to have legislation to keep them from lying/conning the masses to maintain their power.
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We have legislation compelling appearance before Congress. It seems to be failing the function test. That man is instructing his faithful to stonewall. Unless I see some frogmarched mandarins, I see big trouble.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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CatHedral said:
Isnt RINO the term for non-Repugs?
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That is what the insurrectionist Trump cultists in the Republican party want them to be branded. So why should we let them decided who is branded that?
CatHedral said:
We have legislation compelling appearance before Congress. It seems to be failing the function test. That man is instructing his faithful to stonewall. Unless I see some frogmarched mandarins, I see big trouble.
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We will see. It hasn't even been a full year yet.
CatHedral said:
The ambiguity irritates me. That is why I say Repug. It’s plain.
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The allowing the right wing propagandists to pick the language being used across the board annoys me. That is why I will continue to call the insurrectionist Republicans RINO's. Because that is what they are, not the Republicans standing up to them.
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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hanimmal said:
That is what the insurrectionist Trump cultists in the Republican party want them to be branded. So why should we let them decided who is branded that?
We will see. It hasn't even been a full year yet.
The allowing the right wing propagandists to pick the language being used across the board annoys me. That is why I will continue to call the insurrectionist Republicans RINO's. Because that is what they are, not the Republicans standing up to them.
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I dislike relying on context. (minor noodge)
 
Fogdog

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hanimmal said:
That is what the insurrectionist Trump cultists in the Republican party want them to be branded. So why should we let them decided who is branded that?
We will see. It hasn't even been a full year yet.
The allowing the right wing propagandists to pick the language being used across the board annoys me. That is why I will continue to call the insurrectionist Republicans RINO's. Because that is what they are, not the Republicans standing up to them.
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Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten.

Orwell, 1984

You too can learn to speak like a real Republican! The following is the rigid defininition of RINO according to "real Republicans"

RINO - Conservapedia

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A RINO (Republican in Name Only) is an officeholder or candidate who is a member of the Republican Party, but holds views to the political left of most Republican voters, or simply does whatever the liberal media wants. The term "RINO" describes politicians who claim to be Republican but are in fact liberal or puppets of the liberal media, and therefore generally debase the winning conservative coalition base of the Republican Party. Since elected GOP officials tend to be less conservative than the party base, a relatively large number of RINOs are entrenched members of the party organization. They also tend to resort to cronyism to fill key government positions, and often are career politicians. Some conservative commentators have also referred to them as RUNTs (Republican Under Nominal Terms),[1] while another, less frequently used term for them is a DIAN (Democrat in All but Name) because of their embracing of most of the Democrat Party's social and fiscal platforms while operating nominally as a Republican.[2] RINOs have been said to be "controlled opposition" to the Democrats - with the Democrats doing the controlling.[3]

See how easy that was? A simple word sums up so much meaning!!!
 
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