In 2020. America will not get BERNED again

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92x7000/5150

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Fogdog said:
Sanders plan is a loser though.

The idea that 80 million Americans support being forced off a healthcare plan that they say they like is beyond stupid. The majority US public isn't fooled by Sanders deliberate act of leaving the cost and how to pay for that plan out of his bill. I don't know if you are a chump or think everybody else is but you are wrong regardless.
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I hate my healthcare plan
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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92x7000/5150 said:
I hate my healthcare plan
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Yep, a lot of people could do better if they had Medicare. Still about 80% of people say their coverage is excellent or good. That includes people covered by Medicare. My mom is on Medicare, she likes it. I handle finances for her, accompany her to doctor visits and from what I've seen it's a good deal.

Medicare for all or the Medicare buy-in option are both good policies. That said, telling somebody they have to drop a plan they like and forcing them into Medicare, which is what Sanders proposes, is a losing policy.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx
 
Where’sthecurve

Where’sthecurve

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ttystikk said:
Lol

Blame it on Bernie! Clinton's corrupt corporatism had nothing to do with it!

Pay no attention to the billions in corporate campaign funding behind the curtain!

You're gonna have to find a better scapegoat, buddy boy.
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Lol your a joke. If burn was so solid he would have blown the whistle on those corrupt Clinton’s he worked for to sabotage his own campaign. Scapegoat? Seth Rich ....
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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MidwestGorilla219 said:
Lol, this place cracks me up.


Do you even read what the fuck other people are saying? He made his stance clear but your not even listening. You blew off my points with a retarded comment so im just fucking done here with you.
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Can dish it out but can't take it?
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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Padawanbater2 said:
If medicare for all is stupid, why has every major Democratic candidate adopted it as a part of their platform for 2020?
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Only idiots oppose it.

Typically, the idiots are well to do business owners and use their employees to get their own health care for free while throwing them under the bus with outrageous premiums and ridiculous deductibles and copays.

Of course they don't want anything to change.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
If medicare for all is stupid, why has every major Democratic candidate adopted it as a part of their platform for 2020?
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Medicare for all is a nonstarter if implemented like Bernie's plan does. You don't sell it by first telling people it forcibly strips healthcare coverage from 80 million people who like their plan. There is also this problem with not having a price tag or means to pay for it but that would be diverging from the point that 80 million people will be forced off coverage the like and stuffed into the Medicare plan. Most of those people vote.

I still don't understand why you think voting is some sinister act but that's a different topic.

You do realize that there are like four different plans out there, don't you? Some of them DON'T forcibly strip people from plans they like. That part of Bernie's plan is beyond stupid. It's as if he deliberately sabotaged his own plan by handing an easy argument against it to Republicans. The only way it's not stupid is if Bernie is trying to get Trump back in office. .
 
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Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
Medicare for all is a nonstarter if implemented like Bernie's plan does. You don't sell it by first telling people it forcibly strips healthcare coverage from 80 million people who like their plan. There is also this problem with not having a price tag or means to pay for it but that would be diverging from the point that 80 million people will be forced off coverage the like and stuffed into the Medicare plan. Most of those people vote.

I still don't understand why you think voting is some sinister act but that's a different topic.

You do realize that there are like four different plans out there, don't you? Some of them DON'T forcibly strip people from plans they like. That part of Bernie's plan is beyond stupid. It's as if he deliberately sabotaged his own plan by handing an easy argument against it to Republicans. The only way it's not stupid is if Bernie is trying to get Trump back in office. .
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Again, if you think it's stupid, why do most Democratic voters support it? Why have most Dem candidates adopted it for 2020?

You're sitting here saying it's a stupid idea.. So are you just smarter than everyone else who supports it?
 
travisw

travisw

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Padawanbater2 said:
Again, if you think it's stupid, why do most Democratic voters support it? Why have most Dem candidates adopted it for 2020?

You're sitting here saying it's a stupid idea.. So are you just smarter than everyone else who supports it?
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Where is your information coming from? Everything I see says that support is falling.



But if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program.
Poll: Support for ‘Medicare-for-all’ fluctuates with details
https://www.apnews.com/4516833e7fb644c9aa8bcc11048b2169
 
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