Help me choose a 4x4flowertent light

diggs99

diggs99

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@Stephenj37826 glad you found your way into this one and got to defend the company and brand. I had no proof to make much of an argument, but i knew full well HLG were doing things right. When your at the top, theres always others who wanna try and bring you down.
 
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Couch_Lock

Couch_Lock

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Stephenj37826 said:
You sure about that? Buddy why open your mouth without evidence to back up such claims? We produce our boards in house right here in the good old USA......

I have never bought one thing from Meiju..... Again you seem so sure of your "facts" .... You don't know anything whatsoever about my company or our purchasing practices. So please keep you uneducated assumptions to yourself before someone actually believes your nonsense.
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It got really bad this thread.....I tried speaking facts to Kezu but he trashed anybody not agreeing with him. I defend HLG...own many lights including Timber and the BEST 4 x 4 light---> HLG 550 V2 rspec

My bp rose like a mofo.

MOVED MY GROW TODAY, he threatened to call the police on me as a grower in NY...reported the threat, and yet he is NOT banned

Sorry to the thread starter, it got vicious up in here.
 
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JOE GROWS

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hybridway2 said:
The Bar-8 has a 1730 ppf dude. 2.8 UMOL/J set to 660w. 2.7 (2.689) @ 900w. Haha! I like HLG & Am in NO Way knocking them but a R-GueesSpec doesn't even cover a 4x4 bro., has major density issues, no IR or added nore blue beyond the narrow 450nm included in the 3 - 4k. Amare has x2 , whites, 470, 630, 660 & 730 with IP-66 Rating & Certs you can actually pass an electric inspection with to run a real facility. UL-880, Look it up. All while still having about a 30%+ higher efficiency then the R-Spec.
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Thankyou so much for guiding me through the led lighting selections as they are so confusing now days. You are obviously the authority on this forum when it comes to LED lighting and I stopped lurking and made this account just to thank you for your help

I didnt think that anyone had 30% higher efficiency than HLGs Rspec but these Japanese made Amare lights sound like they are by far the best in the world
Do you know if it is possible for me to get a discount if I purchase 10 of them?
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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JOE GROWS said:
Thankyou so much for guiding me through the led lighting selections as they are so confusing now days. You are obviously the authority on this forum when it comes to LED lighting and I stopped lurking and made this account just to thank you for your help

I didnt think that anyone had 30% higher efficiency than HLGs Rspec but these Japanese made Amare lights sound like they are by far the best in the world
Do you know if it is possible for me to get a discount if I purchase 10 of them?
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Please do some research, Amare fixtures are made in China and those inflated# are from the same factory biased sphere......hlg stuff is third party tested, guaranteed performance,big difference.

@Stephenj37826 ..... Maybe you should enlighten the dude you're sending free shit too?... Just a thought
 
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JOE GROWS

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PSUAGRO. said:
Please do some research, Amare fixtures are made in China and those inflated# are from the same factory biased sphere......hlg stuff is third party tested, guaranteed performance,big difference.

@Stephenj37826 ..... Maybe you should enlighten the dude you're sending free shit too?... Just a thought
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So you are saying that the Amare is not 30% more efficient than the Rspec? I dont think you know as much as hybridway. It is clear he knows things you do not about the lights he uses
 
Couch_Lock

Couch_Lock

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JOE GROWS said:
So you are saying that the Amare is not 30% more efficient than the Rspec? I dont think you know as much as hybridway. It is clear he knows things you do not about the lights he uses
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1 guy here touts Amare. 100's tout HLG. You figure it out.

I don't get free shit and spout bullshit. I buy the best.
 
Humple

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JOE GROWS said:
So you are saying that the Amare is not 30% more efficient than the Rspec? I dont think you know as much as hybridway. It is clear he knows things you do not about the lights he uses
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It's a question of verification though. HLG's lights are backed by 3rd party testing, Amare's are not. Now I don't know enough about the Amare to be 100% certain it is NOT more efficient, but... That's really the problem, isn't it? As in the world of single malts, if it's not on the label, it's only a fable. Amare could be a good, naturally produced malt, or it could be a chill-filtered, colored, non-age statement disappointment. For the time being, the smart money is on a sure thing.
 
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PSUAGRO.

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Humple said:
It's a question of verification though. HLG's lights are backed by 3rd party testing, Amare's are not. Now I don't know enough about the Amare to be 100% certain it is NOT more efficient, but... That's really the problem, isn't it? As in the world of single malts, if it's not on the label, it's only a fable. Amare could be a good, naturally produced malt, or it could be a chill-filtered, colored, non-age statement disappointment. For the time being, the smart money is on a sure thing.
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That's the issue for over five years now, I just don't get it. "Victor" can't man up and spend a couple hundred at light lab for a true test result? It would shut up assholes like me instantly . ..
 
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JOE GROWS

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Chip Green said:
Is this a genuine opinion? Not taking issue at all, if that's how you truly feel, I apologise and will pipe down.
Something just seems a little off here.
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Yes it is a genuine opinion. the guy has a light that is 30% more efficient than HLG and has to defend himself constantly. He has HLG lights also so I am sure he knows what is best
It cant be easy being trolled by everyone that thinks they know better. 30% is a big deal to me
 
Humple

Humple

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JOE GROWS said:
Yes it is a genuine opinion. the guy has a light that is 30% more efficient than HLG and has to defend himself constantly. He has HLG lights also so I am sure he knows what is best
It cant be easy being trolled by everyone that thinks they know better. 30% is a big deal to me
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I'm curious about this seemingly absolute faith you have in an anonymous forum member. I'm not saying he doesn't know his shit (I'm not saying he does), but to be so certain that he "knows best"? That strikes me as a bit odd, to be honest. Though there are many knowledgeable people on RIU, I wouldn't just assume that anyone here knows best. Do your own research, man.
 
hybridway2

hybridway2

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Lol! Im sorry. This is too much. Got PSurgo the BS Hater spewing his nonsense again.
Thank you @JOE GROWS for your faith & confidence in my knowledge. Its not easy when you tell the truth about your experiences. I've tested so much & have been honest every step of the way & is why someone like Stephen has sent me testers knowing Amare is my favorite company. Cause he wants honest insite & gains knowledge on spectrum from all of us. Recently I've been showing the advantages of adding the Amare Monos to the 96's to get outstanding results. You don't think a piece of that is stored in the back of his mind, waiting to try it. Hence the QB-18 & ir additions & UV. Now he even setting up his own hemp facility with spectrum testing as a primary reason i believe. Thats fucking awesome.
I've told Amare when i disagreed plenty of times & i bet Victor doesn't even like me. Haha! Anyways. I speak the facts how i see them & experience them in comparison to one another in my garden.
Can these other guys say the same???
As for 30% higher efficiency, i believe i said at 660w over a 4x4 but could be mistaken .
Anyways they both use quality & are good companies to deal with.
I preffer Amare for the spectrum, build quality, warranty, knowledge, design & efficiency over anything Ive tried . Hlg is not to far behind if pricing lined up to Horticultural lighting rather then efficiency of white light chips.
Doesn't mean i dont Love my 96's n dont think the QB would be great & better compete with a beafy bar desighn using the 324 boards more spread, larger, & with a Horticultural spectrum & better thermal mngmt that does what i see using enhanced compared to white, remote drivers & a real dimmer.
Then we can talk apples to apples guys.
Plus the Certs & IP ratings.
I mean really, is this even a discussion.
Lmao!
Oh, & I've told Stephen how i feel and would love to see a qb to my specs.
I have no dislike for HLG you trouble stirring, jock riding, trolls.
I do however believe to many are sleeping on the Bar-8 do to lack of advertising and Website info. Mind you, they were the first to hit the mkt at 2.7. If i remember correctly. And that's using ir outside the zone measured for lights these days.
Wait till the UVL hits with a real par meter.
 
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Humple

Humple

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hybridway2 said:
Lol! Im sorry. This is too much. Got PSurgo the BS Hater spewing his nonsense again.
Thank you @JOE GROWS for your faith & confidence in my knowledge. Its not easy when you tell the truth about your experiences. I've tested so much & have been honest every step of the way & is why someone like Stephen has sent me testers knowing Amare is my favorite company. Cause he wants honest insite & gains knowledge on spectrum from all of us. Recently I've been showing the advantages of adding the Amare Monos to the 96's to get outstanding results. You don't think a piece of that is stored in the back of his mind, waiting to try it. Hence the QB-18 & ir additions & UV. Now he even setting up his own hemp facility with spectrum testing as a primary reason i believe. Thats fucking awesome.
I've told Amare when i disagreed plenty of times & i bet Victor doesn't even like me. Haha! Anyways. I speak the facts how i see them & experience them in comparison to one another in my garden.
Can these other guys say the same???
As for 30% higher efficiency, i believe i said at 660w over a 4x4 but could be mistaken .
Anyways they both use quality & are good companies to deal with.
I preffer Amare for the spectrum, build quality, warranty, knowledge, design & efficiency over anything Ive tried .
Doesn't mean i dont Love my 96's n dont think the QB would be great & better compete with a beafy bar desighn using the 324 boards more spread, larger, & with a Horticultural spectrum that does what i see using enhanced compared to white, remote drivers & a real dimmer.
Then we can talk apples to apples guys.
Plus the Certs & IP ratings.
I mean really, is this even a discussion.
Lmao!
Oh, & I've told Stephen how i feel and would love to see a qb to my specs.
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I imagine it will be a discussion until Amare has 3rd party testing done.
 
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