Fitness...

eat lost of meat plain and simple, to build weight and keep fat down you need protien and good weight training. but for suppliments i prefer muscletech Nitro whey with Cell tech createin.

mr j2 said:

Can anyone recommend a good weight gainer type of product?

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SQUATS...

learn about squats and take them very very seriously.....

you will make enormous gains in over all size when you focus on your legs...

Although I do not recommend this approach.... drinking 1 gallon of milk ever day for 4 months while having a serious high intensity workout (crossfit.com)

you will gain 20 pounds in 4 months... and you will feel like a shit brick house after 8 months.... just check out the site and start following the daily WODS (work outs of the day)...

mr j2 said:

Can anyone recommend a good weight gainer type of product?

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I recommend 100% Whey. Protein is great for building muscle with little fat. Also make sure that you have a healthy diet. I had a friend who heard that peanut butter would help you gain lots of weight(which it does) and he was trying to bulk up for a wrestling match. He ate multiple JARS of peanut butter and gained 6 or 7 pounds in a week. He hasn't touched peanut butter in 15 years. lol Don't go for the quick fix, good things come with work.

Moral of the story: eat right, train hard, and rest well. You want muscle, not fat.

Anyways... I was in the gym this morning and caught a glimpse of my biceps in the mirror. I noticed that my left arm in noticeably smaller than my right(I'm right handed). I guess I have to do more lefty dumbell curls. lol

GK, that d ball workout sounds INTENSE. Explosiveness like that comes in handy in every sport. Back to my football days, the cleans and the pulls came in handy later on and I imagine those would help a lot, too.

Country, do you sign contracts and get money for your fights? I've always been interested in UFC and MMA fighting. No boxing gloves, just a brawl. Kimbo Slice is a monster!

for mass muscle gain you want to do excersise's like flet beench,deadlift,squats, an olimpic press...these excersises are the most mass induceing also for weight can you should eat 1gram of protein to pound of body weight you are..ie 175pounds consume 175 grams protein...an knowm i have seen sevreal varitions of the excersize you talked about...if you have a brick wall try throwing the ball at it ina punching motion as hard as you can focusing on each arm at a time using as much force as possible...peace az

Garden Knowm said:

Hey country boy... over at the pit where john hackleman trains his PIT GUYS.. they have these 130lb body bags... they are bad ass bags.. the guys carry them around and throw them around... it is an insane work out... they are in the shape of a body... head is missing and the legs don't go below the knees...


I personally use a d-ball - 16lb, 40lb and 60lb...

They are yellow balls filled with iron fillings.... I slam them on the gorund and catch them on the first bounce,., they only bounce about 1/2 inch and then I explode straight up until the ball is directly overhead (arms fully extended) and then I smash it to the ground again... I do this tabata style... 20 seconds ON.. 10 second rest... 8 rounds....

NEARLY puke almost every time.... great cardio and muscle explosion workout... crazy intensity..... just what you need for a fight

cheers

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hell yea this is definitly going in the work out but i'll be wearing 5lb wrist weights, i will be wearing those every day from when i get up to when i go to bed except for showers, or sparring and stuff were they need to be off, this is so when i get back in the ring those 18oz gloves will seem bare knuckle to me!
but sadly i can even start training yet, my asma whoops my ass for about 2 weeks straight twice a year when the weather changes i can barly smoke right now but when i do it actually clears me up for a good hour, i hack all the nasty shit out (lovly image in your mind isn't it! lol) at least it will be warm when i start. im also gonna fix up a bookbag like a harness and drag a 37in tire for my daily run couple mile run.

Thats one thing that worries me about a fight, my endurance.

Cause in a real fight, there is no one going to stop it and its unpredictable.

Ive just started my running schedule, and can run a mile in 8 min, gonna try to bring it down to six, but that will take time.

Miracle Smoke said:

Thats one thing that worries me about a fight, my endurance.

Cause in a real fight, there is no one going to stop it and its unpredictable.

Ive just started my running schedule, and can run a mile in 8 min, gonna try to bring it down to six, but that will take time.

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i grew up having to fight. my parents were both bikers and my moms older sons didnt like me cause my dad took my mom from there dad ive been stabbed, tazed, hit will a ball bat, had a stop sign bent over my head and a bunch of other shit so i grew up quick and tough, once they couldnt fuck with me any more i liked it to much so thats how i spent most of my school time and i got away with it cause i could prevok people just the right way to get them not to care about admiting to swinging first then getting beat up lol i had just as many street fights as i do school fights. i completly chilled out once i got into the vocational school im in now, i was not about to screw up the oppertunity for a better life that they gave me, and now im a big believer in charma so ive completly turned my life around shit im graduating in a month!

sorry for rambling on.

Thanks for the advice guys. I think my best bet right now is to just eat lots of meat and get plenty of lean protein and start weight training some more. I heard whey protein is better for those who already have some muscle mass and are working out already, is that true? I'm just about 6 ft and only 120 lbs or so, so I think I need to up my diet before I do anything. I'm skinnier than a lot of girls.. it's not good

mr j2 said:

Thanks for the advice guys. I think my best bet right now is to just eat lots of meat and get plenty of lean protein and start weight training some more. I heard whey protein is better for those who already have some muscle mass and are working out already, is that true? I'm just about 6 ft and only 120 lbs or so, so I think I need to up my diet before I do anything. I'm skinnier than a lot of girls.. it's not good

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Mr 12..

PROTEIN will nt put weight on you... not at all... it requires more energy to digest protein than it does carbs and fat....

If you want to put on weight and muscle... which it sound like you need to do desperately.... you should consider serious weight lifting... of olympic lifts.. and eat shit loads of vegetables, milk, carbs (pastas etc)..... and then eat some protein...

NO curls... no long distance running.. no tricep extensions.. all lame shit..

DON'T use any machines.. machines are for pussies... i don't mean that in any negative way... but somebody who does Olympic Lifting and body weight exercising will always be much more the athlete than those who use equipment....

GYMNASTS, MMA FIGHTERS, Wrestlers etc... don't fook around with machines... there is very little function, or intensity in machines compared to FREE WIEGHTS

sorry.. but true..

you need to focus on

squats
dead lifts
pull ups and weighted pull ups
bench
sprints (100 meter, 400 meter)
hand stand push ups against the wall
over head press, push press, push jerk

just go to Welcome to CrossFit: Forging Elite Fitness

follow the instructions and you will transform in 4 months... you and those around you will be sooooo surprised...

cheers

I do yoga every day and run a couple miles every other day, as well as doing pushups and situps. I've never had a good body type for weight lifting (I'm 18 and i'm 5'9" 130) but my body works pretty well for the exercise I do. Yoga is so great, I think it takes a certain type of person and body to try it (just as weight lifting does) but it makes your body more flexible while building lean muscle at the same time, but it does more than just help your body look good. It helps me sleep better and helps me focus during the day, and I feel it generally makes me a more good natured person.

Thanks for the advice garden knowm. I'm serious about this so I will definitely take a look at the website and I'll do more of the excersizes you suggested. But I wish I could drink milk, it makes me want to puke. And I'm horrible at benching. Even when I did weight train a little I just couldn't get the hang of it because I could never balance it right. Do you think getting a personal trainer at the gym would be worth it or am I better off with some old fashioned research and hard work to find my own routine ?

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or am I better off with some old fashioned research and hard work to find my own routine ?

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yes.. I would do it yourself.. unless you are prone to do better with verbal cues...

It is almost never recommended to drink calotires.. but in your case I think it is an exception... start drinking milk.. start with chocolat emilk an dthen dilute it to 50 regular milk to 50% white milk...

Try and only drink 4-8 ounces per sitting... 4-8 sittings a day... you will get sick if you try and pound MILK... if you get sick, you will be screwed. cause then you will never want to drink MILK...

I normally would not recommend this to anybody.. but I have never seen anybody who is 6 feet tall 120lbs

Can you bench 120lbs? if yes, then you are not a horrible bencher... and the bench is the least important work out... LEAST IMPORTANT...

squats are what is important... it would be great if you could find somebody to teach you proper squats.....

tell them you don;t want anything other than a perfect squat.. find a teacher that KNOWS what a PERFECT squat is... ask them a shit load of questions.... once you learn what a pefrfect squat is, you will spend a life time perfecting it.. and you will put on 20lbs in the first 6 months to 1 year of squating... yes... 20lbs.. easy...

squating stimulates the entire ENDOCRINE SYSTEM and changes the hormonal balance in the body... it needs to be intense.. healthy... committed squatting... it will change your life...

iloveyou


I highly recommend this books...

Amazon.com: Starting Strength: Mark Rippetoe,Lon Kilgore: Books


drink coffee and read this book from front to back.... it is the instruction manual to getting KAK diesel...

iloveyou

I have no idea what I can bench now but I'm guessing not 120 lbs. And the other problem with me drinking milk is that I'm also mildly lactose intolerant and I'm sure if I was drinking that much milk..things would not be good lol. What are some other drinks or foods that would be good for me? I eat like any normal person would but I guess that isn't good enough for me.. I must have a really high metabolism or something. I'm the one at the table who will finish their food first, then eat everyone elses left overs, and then an hour later be hungry again. And I may even be less than 120 now I'm not sure.. :/

Garden Knowm said:

Mr 12..

PROTEIN will nt put weight on you... not at all... it requires more energy to digest protein than it does carbs and fat....

If you want to put on weight and muscle... which it sound like you need to do desperately.... you should consider serious weight lifting... of olympic lifts.. and eat shit loads of vegetables, milk, carbs (pastas etc)..... and then eat some protein...

NO curls... no long distance running.. no tricep extensions.. all lame shit..

DON'T use any machines.. machines are for pussies... i don't mean that in any negative way... but somebody who does Olympic Lifting and body weight exercising will always be much more the athlete than those who use equipment....

GYMNASTS, MMA FIGHTERS, Wrestlers etc... don't fook around with machines... there is very little function, or intensity in machines compared to FREE WIEGHTS

sorry.. but true..

you need to focus on

squats
dead lifts
pull ups and weighted pull ups
bench
sprints (100 meter, 400 meter)
hand stand push ups against the wall
over head press, push press, push jerk

just go to Welcome to CrossFit: Forging Elite Fitness

follow the instructions and you will transform in 4 months... you and those around you will be sooooo surprised...

cheers

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True. I find that the stabilization needed when using free weights really helps with he coordination of the muscles and joints.

And you're right in the sense that there is more to eating right than just taking in a lot of protein. I'm no nutritionist, but carbs, vitamins, veggies, and etc. are all essential in maintaining a healthy lifestyle. I'm not looking to be a bodybuilder, just strong and fit. The ladies love, it as well.

I'm not dogging protein either... protein is key... but our boy is weighing 120lb and is 6 feet tall....

time to just start shoving food in.... lol

stay away from sugar and salt.... at all costs..... that shit is horrible for you....

and you will never KNOW until the day you stop eating that shit and tur into a super human...

iloveyou

mr j2 said:

I have no idea what I can bench now but I'm guessing not 120 lbs. And the other problem with me drinking milk is that I'm also mildly lactose intolerant and I'm sure if I was drinking that much milk..things would not be good lol. What are some other drinks or foods that would be good for me? I eat like any normal person would but I guess that isn't good enough for me.. I must have a really high metabolism or something. I'm the one at the table who will finish their food first, then eat everyone elses left overs, and then an hour later be hungry again. And I may even be less than 120 now I'm not sure.. :/

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if money is no object

shit loads of avocados.. (1 a day)
salads with tons of vegetable oil (not cooked or heated)
coconuts
nuts (NOT PEANUTS or CASHEWs) shit loads of almonds and walnuts
tuna (all fish)
chicken
cheese
yogurt (LOTS of fat and protein)
sweet potatoes (no butter)
cottage cheese (go fooking crazy with this stuff) add pineapples and honey and watch a movie and eat the entire bucket
eggs, more eggs... and more eggs.... no butter


always by organic, free range and all that other good shit if you can afford it... and always cook yourself or have somebody who LOVES you cook for you.... FOOD is KEY


SQUATS.... look into SQUATS.... i wish I would have know about squats when I was 18...

cheers

mr j2 said:

I have no idea what I can bench now but I'm guessing not 120 lbs. And the other problem with me drinking milk is that I'm also mildly lactose intolerant and I'm sure if I was drinking that much milk..things would not be good lol. What are some other drinks or foods that would be good for me? I eat like any normal person would but I guess that isn't good enough for me.. I must have a really high metabolism or something. I'm the one at the table who will finish their food first, then eat everyone elses left overs, and then an hour later be hungry again. And I may even be less than 120 now I'm not sure.. :/

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Have you talked with your physician about it? It seems like there may be something other than nutrition that is keeping you from putting on weight. Maybe a tapeworm... or maybe not. But it's worth looking in to if you haven't already.

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Have you talked with your physician about it? It seems like there may be something other than nutrition that is keeping you from putting on weight. Maybe a tapeworm... or maybe not. But it's worth looking in to if you haven't already.

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great advice...

and start a multi vitamin...

cheers

I smoked all through HS and played sports year round. I was in shape. HS ended a few years ago, I still smoke but I only make it to the gym a handful of times a month.

played volleyball in highschool. became major lazy stoner gained 7 to 10 lbs and working it off... i wasnt FAT. but i had a big butt and really big boobs.
my friend started the atkins diet or watever but switching to no carbs is bad for you.
so i just cut back on them... A LOT!
and the funny thing is, the stuff with all the carbs is the stuff with a lot of fat and other shit. i eat... tuna, lots and lots of salads, fruit, veg's, turkey, meat, chicken... everything homemade. and i drink tea all day long with out sugar, so i use splenda. works great. drink 8 cups of water a day.
i've lost, almost 7 lbs in a week. and i'm gunna stick to it mostly.