Chemical weapons used by Syria

heckler73

heckler73

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And now we have the French evidence... sure enough, it was what I expected.
http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/IMG/pdf/Syrie_Synthe_se_nationale_de_renseignement_de_classifie__02_09_2013_cle0f7593.pdf

Nous estimons enfin que l’opposition syrienne n’a pas les capacités de conduire
une opération d’une telle ampleur avec des agents chimiques.

Un-freakin-believable.
In essence it says the Syrian Opposition doesn't have the capacity to conduct an operation of this magnitude with chemical agents.
It's that last part that catches my eye (telle ampleur).

They cite two other incidents from April, where 20 and 40 people were affected by Sarin (according to stool, urine and hair samples)

And their victim count is "no less than 281"... based on 47 videos, it seems...

Sigh... This looks like a dressed up version of the US evidence... Slam Dunky!

But my French is really rusty.

 
Doer

Doer

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The last report I saw and talked about, the Blister Agent...it was airplanes, low. No explosion. Plenty of witnesses.

My French suck too, I've found out. Hard to keep up. But, Le Mond has some good stuff. So far, no one but some Syrian women will claim this was not used by the Military, for 20 times, easily, so far.

Now the US Press will turn and sow doubt. This to fuel the debate and teach the Kids right out of coma.

You are seeing the American battle rocket being fueled.
 
Doer

Doer

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Republican House Leader is now, on board. The vote and favor trading can take place to get'er done.
 
Doer

Doer

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Well, Kerry is testifying to beyond a doubt, evidence. They have gas area footprint maps. Launch to strike timing. Order intercepts. It is being mentioned as evidence suitable for War Crime Trials.

I know some people like to say it is all fake but it isn't.

It is to our advantage for the world to fear us this way. So, we don't care. To protest at all is to protest too much. See what I mean?

But, inside, it has always been shown in the scope of history, we are not making it up.
 
Doer

Doer

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Not famous but telling quote alert.

"I want to be very clear. We will not have American boots on the ground in Syria, with respect to this Civil War." pre-President Kerry.

So, good. American boots on the ground there, will not have any respect for the civil war in Syria. I am very glad we are clear on that now. :)
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Doer said:
Not famous but telling quote alert.

"I want to be very clear. We will not have American boots on the ground in Syria, with respect to this Civil War." pre-President Kerry.

So, good. American boots on the ground there, will not have any respect for the civil war in Syria. I am very glad we are clear on that now. :)
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Then if Kerry had become president, this wouldn't have happened. Just like if Gore had become president, everyone would know he invented the internet.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Doer said:
Not famous but telling quote alert.

"I want to be very clear. We will not have American boots on the ground in Syria, with respect to this Civil War." pre-President Kerry.

So, good. American boots on the ground there, will not have any respect for the civil war in Syria. I am very glad we are clear on that now. :)
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Obama has outwardly said he's all for regime change now.

Also Kerry refused to preclude the use of American troops.

He also said they'd most likely use American troops to stop WMD's falling into the hands of Al Nusra... Maybe the best way to do that would be let Assad continue his (winning) fight against them and not support them against Assad?

In other words, this is not going to be a quick in and out, Vietnam 2.0.
 
rizzlaking

rizzlaking

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lies and lies and lies

the media is sick, and iran and russia wont sit by

but then america wants all out war, its all going to plan
 
Doer

Doer

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Harrekin said:
Obama has outwardly said he's all for regime change now.

Also Kerry refused to preclude the use of American troops.

He also said they'd most likely use American troops to stop WMD's falling into the hands of Al Nusra... Maybe the best way to do that would be let Assad continue his (winning) fight against them and not support them against Assad?

In other words, this is not going to be a quick in and out, Vietnam 2.0.
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Don' cha be listening to the lies. This is Saddam 2.0. And I for one, did not appreciate the 18 years of bull, it took to defeat that actual Paper Tiger.

18 months, is all Assad has left it live I hope. See after WW1 and and the wide use of Chlorine gas, the winners in this World said, no more. And certainly not ever on your own people to prevent a coup, or to conduct genocide, etc.

Now, if we were fighting the Chinese as invader of Alaska say.....well, that is different. WMD is allowed in all out war, but you had better win. If you lose, it was not allowed. And now is War Crimes.
 
Doer

Doer

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Harrekin said:
Obama has outwardly said he's all for regime change now.

Also Kerry refused to preclude the use of American troops.

He also said they'd most likely use American troops to stop WMD's falling into the hands of Al Nusra... Maybe the best way to do that would be let Assad continue his (winning) fight against them and not support them against Assad?

In other words, this is not going to be a quick in and out, Vietnam 2.0.
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Here is the thing. Obama said, Assad must go, almost 2 years ago. Since then, there has been Geneva 1 and Geneva 2 is on hold.

So, it looks fuck up because we like to think that. But, it is on rails, they won't speak of. Treason to say too much.

http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=98789&cid=23&fromval=1
"Those who are waiting for Syria and want to establish a state of Islamic Caliphate will not stop at the borders of Syria. What we are doing is to defend Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq," the Syrian official justified.

He further expressed hopes that "the two sponsors of the Geneva II, Moscow and Washington, will prepare the right atmosphere for the conference."

Following the 21 August 2013 Ghouta chemical weapons attacks and a threat of military action in Syria by the United States in response, Brahimi stated, "The Russians and the Americans are both telling me they remain committed to Geneva 2, but what will happen, I think, we will know only if and when this military action takes place."[SUP][1][/SUP]


I just found out. This USA Press on Agenda.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Doer said:
Here is the thing. Obama said, Assad must go, almost 2 years ago. Since then, there has been Geneva 1 and Geneva 2 is on hold.

So, it looks fuck up because we like to think that. But, it is on rails, they won't speak of. Treason to say too much.

http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=98789&cid=23&fromval=1
"Those who are waiting for Syria and want to establish a state of Islamic Caliphate will not stop at the borders of Syria. What we are doing is to defend Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq," the Syrian official justified.

He further expressed hopes that "the two sponsors of the Geneva II, Moscow and Washington, will prepare the right atmosphere for the conference."

Following the 21 August 2013 Ghouta chemical weapons attacks and a threat of military action in Syria by the United States in response, Brahimi stated, "The Russians and the Americans are both telling me they remain committed to Geneva 2, but what will happen, I think, we will know only if and when this military action takes place."[SUP][1][/SUP]


I just found out. This USA Press on Agenda.
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So many words, so little content...
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Doer said:
I know. Why would they tell us anything but lies?
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Obama said:
I will also hold myself as president to a new standard of openness .... Let me say it as simply as I can: Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.
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Because of the above promise...?
 
Doer

Doer

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No IOW, no blah, blah,

from you about missing the point. If he lies he lies. And we see it. Any lie will point to and reveal the other, being a lie, so it is all lies. Or you might say, Politics.

So, hold your ears. I think you are being bit foolish to pick and choose the lies. And being unfriendly, to suggest I am taking sides.

Dude, I am taking notes. That's it.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Doer said:
No IOW, no blah, blah,

from you about missing the point. If he lies he lies. And we see it. Any lie will point to and reveal the other, being a lie, so it is all lies. Or you might say, Politics.

So, hold your ears. I think you are being bit foolish to pick and choose the lies. And being unfriendly, to suggest I am taking sides.

Dude, I am taking notes. That's it.
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Nah I don't accept that, Kenyan Transperancy was promised as absolute.

Bush lied less before Iraq than Odumbo is now...
 
Doer

Doer

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Harrekin said:
Nah I don't accept that, Kenyan Transperancy was promised as absolute.

Bush lied less before Iraq than Odumbo is now...
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Hair splitting and side taking...so I won't disagree. He is almost surely what we think, but he is IT.
 
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