Chemical weapons used by Syria

Doer

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The Brits for the first time since the 1700's voted against going to war, for the sake of the government's request. They seem to be aware of the international consequences of waging one with Syria, and for that matter Russia. This is would make Iraq a walk in the park in comparison. Everyone in the world seems to understand that except the US, which again seemingly wants to lead the way. This is bullshit, and I think first off, get the truth about whose weapons they were, which seems like common sense. Obama's WH is starting too look much like GW's, in that respect.
You have come to the crossroad. There is no farther. You have arrived. All Presidents are just citizens. This one is as green as a stick.

Or was. :) Sheep dipped now. Well and truly. And he is being magnificent to me as was Bush, Clinton, Nixon, all the two terms.

Notice they all have those "fatal flaws" as do we all. The President is a bad ass in a bad ass position. He is the actual enforcer of last resort of the World Casino. The Godfather in every way. My wife was worried Obama was not enough of an Asshole, her main qualification. She saw steel in Romney, I could not.

Now its...sure, he's an asshole, doing OK. That is the best she ever gives a President.

You are no longer suffering, perhaps so badly, from Mind Fuck by the Press.

Good Job!
 

Doer

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No, no. He can begin the killing today. He thinks he has the votes for what he wants to do.

If they don't vote his way, he is still completely unfettered.

No gassing babies, we are not kidding.
 

FreedomWorks

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You don't have the numbers straight. Here I will help you.

Bush 43
Obama 44
Hillary 45
Hilary? or over the Hillary? Maybe you're right. We should add the extra "L" because Obama 2.0 is starting to look like John McCain. That's all we need is another 1000 year old zombie wheelchairing back into politics. She may be a bit out of touch with voters under 70.
 

Doer

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Hilary? or over the Hillary? Maybe you're right. We should add the extra "L" because Obama 2.0 is starting to look like John McCain. That's all we need is another 1000 year old zombie wheelchairing back into politics. She may be a bit out of touch with voters under 70.
When has that mattered? only... If she can get the Nomination away from Kerry. They have faced off before.
 

NLXSK1

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So John Kerry comes out and makes the proclimation that this issue is SOOO IMPORTANT!!!

That the Prez will come out the next day and wait until congress gets back from one of it's numerous vacations to decide what to do...

I swear the messages couldnt be more mixed if the administration tried.

I guess the hundreds or thousands of people killed in the next week or so were not really that important... That or Congress wants to figure out a way to get some more pork out of this issue. Maybe a 1500 page resolution to launch a few missiles and spend 100 billion on whatever pet project the senator or congressman has next on his list.

Completely disgusting. The world is alternatively laughing or crying at the political theatre...
 

Doer

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So John Kerry comes out and makes the proclimation that this issue is SOOO IMPORTANT!!!

That the Prez will come out the next day and wait until congress gets back from one of it's numerous vacations to decide what to do...

I swear the messages couldnt be more mixed if the administration tried.

I guess the hundreds or thousands of people killed in the next week or so were not really that important... That or Congress wants to figure out a way to get some more pork out of this issue. Maybe a 1500 page resolution to launch a few missiles and spend 100 billion on whatever pet project the senator or congressman has next on his list.

Completely disgusting. The world is alternatively laughing or crying at the political theatre...
Hey, calm down. They are trying very hard for Operational Deception in the time of Spy Craft.

I see. Let's have a war and not just claim and worry we are pre-loading the enemy but actually tell them by explaining it all to you in detail.

These are Experts. We are the Mob. Get a rope. Stand by.
 

Doer

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I'll also remind us, when Congress gets in they Proclaim this. By all means necessary. So, for 9/11, that meant Iraq, too.
 

Harrekin

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Ok so back on topic...

Apparently the US has reports that it was Sarin gas used in the chemical attack, and apparently that's evidence enough to launch a strike...

No definitive evidence to determine blame, just the actual substance used...

Which is bizarre, because the UN weapons inspectors need 3 weeks for conclusive results on the chemical used, and presumably weapons inspectors have access to the very best "weapon inspecting" shit, no?

So how does Obama know definitely what it was and who fired it?
 

heckler73

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broken link
I fixed it... there was an extra "http" in there for some reason.
And it turns out I was mistaken (or stoned...wasn't the first time, won't be the last).
The laugh was from a laugh track, which the poster used on other vids, as well.
So there was no wife in the area... which, come to think of it, would probably be against their code of warfare anyway.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e01_1378005515

As for media, I stumbled onto this one NEWS service which has reporters roving with the SAA.
http://www.youtube.com/user/newsanna
They don't sugarcoat anything, but they clearly have some bias.
What they do offer, however, is street-level reporting that would curl Wolf Blitzer's "hide under the table" pubes. Just be sure to hit the English captions (if available).

I dig their opening theme music, too, but I don't know why...
 

heckler73

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Ok so back on topic...

Apparently the US has reports that it was Sarin gas used in the chemical attack, and apparently that's evidence enough to launch a strike...

No definitive evidence to determine blame, just the actual substance used...

Which is bizarre, because the UN weapons inspectors need 3 weeks for conclusive results on the chemical used, and presumably weapons inspectors have access to the very best "weapon inspecting" shit, no?

So how does Obama know definitely what it was and who fired it?
Is it conceivable the UN want 2 (or 3) weeks to compile a report so as to hopefully give time for heads to cool?
Also, in that time, Syria has a chance to prove ITS innocence while continuing to push out al-Nusra and the rest of the crazy "allahu-akhbar" robots. The sooner the 3rd element is removed from the picture, the sooner the real "opposition" can sit down in diplomatic discussion with Asshat. That's assuming they want diplomacy, as their supposed cries for "freedom and democracy" imply.

As for the quick turnover in the US analysis...meh... it's possible. But where did they get these blood and hair samples from? How many samples?
Details, details, details... that's one thing Kerry has been short with...

And now the French are going to be releasing their own "evidence" proving Syria was "stockpiling CWs"...
If that is the extent of their argument, then this is going to be a twisted joke...
I wonder if their "evidence" is also going to claim "there is no proof of the rebels having CW capabilities"?
 
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