Chemical weapons used by Syria

Rob Roy · Sep 2, 2013

Here's an interesting article written by L.Vance among other things regarding "supporting the troops"

If and when the United States government intervenes militarily in some way in Syria, there is no question that U.S. military personnel will take the lives and destroy the property of people that had never harmed an American or threatened the United States in any way.
And most Americans won’t even care.
Should military intervention occur, the following asinine proposition will be repeated ad nauseam just like a version of it has been repeated incessantly ever since U.S. troops invaded Iraq and Afghanistan:
I don’t support the U.S. military intervening in Syria, but I support the troops.
This is utter nonsense. This is pious drivel. This is idiocy on parade. This is lunacy.
Yet, even though the majority of Americans say they don’t want war with Syria, the majority of them will still say we should support the troops, pray for the troops, and thank the troops for their service.
Sometimes an attempt is made to justify this nonsense, drivel, idiocy, and lunacy by supplementing it with one or more of the following:

The troops are just following orders.
Old men make wars, but young men fight them.
The troops have a duty to serve the country when they are called upon.
Military intervention is the fault of the politicians, not the soldiers.
It is better to fight “over there” instead of “over here.”
Whatever the troops do in Syria is the fault of Obama the commander in chief.
The troops didn’t ask to go to Syria.
There are a lot of good people in the military.
The troops will go fight where they are told because they are patriotic.
The troops are not responsible for where they are sent.
Many soldiers had no choice but to join the military since they could not find a job.
U.S. soldiers only kill those who try to kill them.

But none of these change anything; the proposition is still nonsense, drivel, idiocy, and lunacy.
You can’t support the troops without supporting what they do; you can’t separate soldiers from solidering.
Reciting this asinine proposition about supporting the troops is just like saying:

I don’t support garbage men emptying the trash, but I support them as garbage men.
I don’t support doctors performing abortions, but I support them as doctors.
I don’t support landscapers mowing the grass, but I support them as landscapers.
I don’t support TSA agents groping passengers, but I support them as TSA agents.

Sounds ridiculous, I know; but why doesn’t the asinine proposition about soldiers sound just as ridiculous?
The primary job of a soldier is to destroy infrastructure and make widows and orphans—whenever he is told to do so and without questioning his orders. Perhaps killing people they shouldn’t kill and breaking things they shouldn’t break wasn’t always the top priority of U.S. soldiers, but it certainly is now. Since World War II, the U.S. military has been usedexclusively for purposes other than the actual defense of the country. And if that weren’t bad enough, most of these purposes have been nefarious and offensive. Since World War II, U.S. soldiers have functioned exclusively as the president’s personal attack force staffed by mercenaries willing to obey his latest command to bomb, invade, occupy, and otherwise bring death and destruction to any country he deems necessary.
When U.S. troops go to Syria, and people say that they support the troops but not their mission in Syria, what exactly will we supposed to think they mean? Will they be saying that they

support the troops painting equipment?
support the troops marching in formation on the base?
support the troops cleaning their weapons?
support the troops making their beds?
support the troops sweeping the floor in their barracks?
support the troops working out?
support the troops performing vehicle maintenance?
support the troops washing the fighter jets?

Are any of these things reason why U.S. troops returning home from Syria will be applauded in airports? Then how is it that people can say they support the troops but not their mission?
The ultimate reason why senseless U.S. foreign wars take place is not because of the president, the Congress, and the politicians; it is because there is no shortage of Americans willing to bomb, maim, destroy, and kill for the state in order to collect a government paycheck. And to the extent that patriotism has anything to do with it—cursed be that patriotism.
I don’t support the troops. And I don’t support asinine propositions. Do you?

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

Rob Roy said:
Here's an interesting article written by L.Vance among other things regarding "supporting the troops"

If and when the United States government intervenes militarily in some way in Syria, there is no question that U.S. military personnel will take the lives and destroy the property of people that had never harmed an American or threatened the United States in any way.
And most Americans wont even care.
Should military intervention occur, the following asinine proposition will be repeated ad nauseam just like a version of it has been repeated incessantly ever since U.S. troops invaded Iraq and Afghanistan:
I dont support the U.S. military intervening in Syria, but I support the troops.
This is utter nonsense. This is pious drivel. This is idiocy on parade. This is lunacy.
Yet, even though the majority of Americans say they dont want war with Syria, the majority of them will still say we should support the troops, pray for the troops, and thank the troops for their service.
Sometimes an attempt is made to justify this nonsense, drivel, idiocy, and lunacy by supplementing it with one or more of the following:

The troops are just following orders.

Old men make wars, but young men fight them.

The troops have a duty to serve the country when they are called upon.

Military intervention is the fault of the politicians, not the soldiers.

It is better to fight over there instead of over here.

Whatever the troops do in Syria is the fault of Obama the commander in chief.

The troops didnt ask to go to Syria.

There are a lot of good people in the military.

The troops will go fight where they are told because they are patriotic.

The troops are not responsible for where they are sent.

Many soldiers had no choice but to join the military since they could not find a job.

U.S. soldiers only kill those who try to kill them.

But none of these change anything; the proposition is still nonsense, drivel, idiocy, and lunacy.
You cant support the troops without supporting what they do; you cant separate soldiers from solidering.
Reciting this asinine proposition about supporting the troops is just like saying:

I dont support garbage men emptying the trash, but I support them as garbage men.

I dont support doctors performing abortions, but I support them as doctors.

I dont support landscapers mowing the grass, but I support them as landscapers.

I dont support TSA agents groping passengers, but I support them as TSA agents.

Sounds ridiculous, I know; but why doesnt the asinine proposition about soldiers sound just as ridiculous?
The primary job of a soldier is to destroy infrastructure and make widows and orphanswhenever he is told to do so and without questioning his orders. Perhaps killing people they shouldnt kill and breaking things they shouldnt break wasnt always the top priority of U.S. soldiers, but it certainly is now. Since World War II, the U.S. military has been usedexclusively for purposes other than the actual defense of the country. And if that werent bad enough, most of these purposes have been nefarious and offensive. Since World War II, U.S. soldiers have functioned exclusively as the presidents personal attack force staffed by mercenaries willing to obey his latest command to bomb, invade, occupy, and otherwise bring death and destruction to any country he deems necessary.
When U.S. troops go to Syria, and people say that they support the troops but not their mission in Syria, what exactly will we supposed to think they mean? Will they be saying that they

support the troops painting equipment?

support the troops marching in formation on the base?

support the troops cleaning their weapons?

support the troops making their beds?

support the troops sweeping the floor in their barracks?

support the troops working out?

support the troops performing vehicle maintenance?

support the troops washing the fighter jets?

Are any of these things reason why U.S. troops returning home from Syria will be applauded in airports? Then how is it that people can say they support the troops but not their mission?
The ultimate reason why senseless U.S. foreign wars take place is not because of the president, the Congress, and the politicians; it is because there is no shortage of Americans willing to bomb, maim, destroy, and kill for the state in order to collect a government paycheck. And to the extent that patriotism has anything to do with itcursed be that patriotism.
I dont support the troops. And I dont support asinine propositions. Do you?

You used the word interesting. I have to say, asinine.

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

heckler73 said:
Is it conceivable the UN want 2 (or 3) weeks to compile a report so as to hopefully give time for heads to cool?
Also, in that time, Syria has a chance to prove ITS innocence while continuing to push out al-Nusra and the rest of the crazy "allahu-akhbar" robots. The sooner the 3rd element is removed from the picture, the sooner the real "opposition" can sit down in diplomatic discussion with Asshat. That's assuming they want diplomacy, as their supposed cries for "freedom and democracy" imply.

As for the quick turnover in the US analysis...meh... it's possible. But where did they get these blood and hair samples from? How many samples?
Details, details, details... that's one thing Kerry has been short with...

And now the French are going to be releasing their own "evidence" proving Syria was "stockpiling CWs"...
If that is the extent of their argument, then this is going to be a twisted joke...
I wonder if their "evidence" is also going to claim "there is no proof of the rebels having CW capabilities"?

Hey, this is never knee-jerk. Nor will the Leader ever tell the truth. That is Treason. The Press says all that. Our leaders make statements that I for one, listen to in whole. Obviously we have been planning this for quite some time, along with France and that let's GB opt out this time. So what? It is a 300 year war for us, and a 600 year war for them.

Then, I for one, have learned how to ignore the every other word in the Press. The every other word is the Emotion Tampering, the People punt to the Press for.

Every other word is a Grand Mind Fuck, if you don't pay attention. Ignore the smmary mind control phrases and word choices..

I can sit with you (or my wife, much better) and point this out. We pause it on the DVR and go back and review the bullshit side. On CNN it is seriously every other word is a smarmy mind fuck. Fox doesn't bother. They 2 part. Part 1 is bullshit.

Then right before commercial break, they swing in with part 2, to cover a tiny bit of their ass and...".that is all the time we have. A hard break." Some commercial sweeps in and all is left is the dive in BULLSHIT and emotion tampering of part 1.

They have the shit job of educating the kiddy coma survivors. And we all woke up one day, and that happens in droves everyday. Fresh meat for the grand Bend Over.

Don't you realize now, this entire Arab Spring phasing and Tampering was just a way to break us into the new chapter of Jefferson's War? We don't pay attention. That has to be forced.

WE actual force them to Tamper us, because it is self rule even if no one pays attention.

Still it has be the VOTE that decides.

burgertime2010 · Sep 2, 2013

I am going to call this a scam without any information....I'd bet 100. Chemical, nuclear, shrapnel....why should this be the factor that decides our involvement? We are better off uninformed in a way....just say no.

Jimdamick · Sep 2, 2013

I don't now about you guy's and girls, but I am fucking sick of the US being at war. Since I have been born, the US has always been involved in "police actions" around the fucking globe. When will the American people get sick of this shit and say enough is enough. Probably never as long as we elect stupid fucking politicians who think we are the saviors of the "free world", and the fools that the American people seem to be buy into their bull shit, with relish. It seems that the American's like being a warrior nation. It looks that way to me. It's just tragic that hundred of thousands of American soldiers have to pay for their bloodthirsty entertainment with their lives.

heckler73 · Sep 2, 2013

Jimdamick said:
I don't now about you guy's and girls, but I am fucking sick of the US being at war.

I'm rather sick of it, too... And I'm in high confidence the rest of the world is in agreement; hence, this current discussion/investigation/exhibition.

This war is rife with deception, as Doer has cryptically noted frequently, and this most recent catalyzing event is just the tip of the iceberg.
Going back through the record, one will find the same story being replayed...perhaps the characters are changed, and locations, incidents, etc. But a consistent variable in each episode is this Fog of War, albeit, perhaps not in the strictest sense of Clausewitz' definition.

The Gas Attack in Aleppo, March 2013... Russians investigated and found evidence suggesting "rebel" manufacture of Sarin (I'm still tracking down the UN report itself).
The Houla Massacre...originally attributed to the Regime, but many inconsistencies between accounts along with the peculiarly guided tour by the FSA for the UN makes any information retrieved suspect. And that's not factoring in the actual victims' allegiances into the equation.

I've also been pondering the influence of pride in Assad's poor decisions. I notice he is seeking involvement from the UN more. What kept him from being more cooperative sooner? If not pride, was it guilt? And it is questions such as this which keep the mind turning-over. The answers become so blurred, everything is reduced to possibility and probability...

Then there are the internet issues. The most recent being in Aleppo (once again).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/30/syrias-largest-city-just-dropped-off-the-internet/
Is this coincidence or are these outages a tactic being used to prevent communication at critical times? What devious things might be happening? And who is being prevented from communicating?
Facebook and Google Maps as tactical war tools? I suppose... they sure like using YouTube !!!

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

Come ON! Tell me when we were not in Conflict and I will show you a fact you missed.

Rob Roy · Sep 2, 2013

Doer said:
You used the word interesting. I have to say, asinine.

Mr. Dangerous Arm Wrestling Guy,

Why do you support killing babies? Couldn't you just arm wrestle them until they cry and then you would feel all manly? Please consider that option..."for the children".

Rob Roy · Sep 2, 2013

Doer said:
Come ON! Tell me when we were not in Conflict and I will show you a fact you missed.

Why do you let other people drag you into their "we"? How many Syrians are you personally in conflict with? Why do you want to kill them? Couldn't you just show them your big arm wrestling muscles and make them give you Syrian bread and make them promise not to bust your balls about "we"?

heckler73 · Sep 2, 2013

Doer said:
Come ON! Tell me when we were not in Conflict and I will show you a fact you missed.

How about 1491 ? I don't think the American military was very active then... probably playing lacrosse or something at the pow-wows...

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

Well, here is a fact. You picked the wrong year.

January 27, 1941 World War II Attack on Pearl Harbor: U.S. Ambassador to Japan Joseph Grew passes on to Washington a rumor overheard at a diplomatic reception about a planned surprise attack upon Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.

April 9 The U.S. acquires full military defense rights in Greenland.
April 10 World War II: The U.S. destroyer Niblack, while picking up survivors from a sunken Dutch freighter, drops depth charges on a German U-boat (the first "shot in anger" fired by America against Germany).

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

So let us jump back in case you don't understand. Conflict and guarding never stops.

At home during 1919 and 1920 Army forces continued the guard on the border of Mexico required by revolutionary disturbances in that country. Because of the lack of National Guard forces (not yet reorganized) the active Army until the summer of 1921 also had to supply troops on numerous occasions to help suppress domestic disorders, chiefly arising out of labor disputes and race conflicts in a restless postwar America.
Abroad, a newly activated United States Third Army moved into Germany on December 1, 1918, to occupy a segment of territory between Luxembourg and the Rhine River around Coblenz. As many as nine divisions participated in the German occupation during the spring of 1919. Similarly, an Army regiment sent to Italy before the end of hostilities participated for four months in the occupation of Austria. In Germany, American troops had no unusual difficulties with the populace, and soon after the peace conference ended in May 1919 the occupation forces were rapidly reduced. They numbered about 15,000 at the beginning of 1920. After rejecting the Treaty of Versailles the United States

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remained technically at war with Germany until the summer of 1921.
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It never stops our involvement in conflict. Don't buy the Party for pussy, (though that does work) Find pussy that doesn't buy it.

Dates indicate the years in which the United States was involved in the war.

War or conflict's name(s)	Campaign or Theater	Opponent(s)	Time	Conclusion(s)
American Revolutionary War or American War of Independence		Great Britain Loyalists Iroquois Cherokee	September 1, 1774 September 3, 1783	American victory Treaty of Paris Britain recognizes independence of the United States of America
	Boston Campaign *Part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain	September 1, 1774 March 17, 1776	Colonial victory, British forces driven from Boston area
	Western Theater *part of the American Revolutionary War*	American Indians Great Britain	1775 1778	Military stalemate, United States diplomatic victory; Spanish Louisiana successfully defended
	Southern Theater *Part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain	1775 1782	Decisive Franco/American victory Surrender of British army at Yorktown
	Naval operations in the American Revolutionary War *part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain	1775 1783	Treaty of Paris
	Invasion of Canada (1775) or Canadian Campaign *part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain Canadian militia	June 1775 October 1776	American defeat, Defeat of Colonial invasion; British counter-offensive
	Chickamauga Wars (17761794) *Part of the American Revolutionary War*	American Indians Great Britain Cherokee Shawnee Seminole Ojibway Creek Chickamauga Meskwaki Miami Mingo Kickapoo Lenape Mascouten Potawatomi Sauk Wyandot	1776 1794	Decisive American victory: United States diplomatic victory, American rights in Treaty of Paris successfully defended Britain recognizes independence of the United States and cedes forts and influence in Indian territory.
	New York and New Jersey Campaign *Part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain Hesse-Kassel Waldeck-Pyrmont	July 1776 March 1777	New York: British gain control of New York City, British victory New Jersey: Americans lose and then regain control of New Jersey, American victory
	Philadelphia Campaign *part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain Hesse-Kassel Ansbach-Bayreuth	1777 1778	British occupation then evacuation of Philadelphia
	Saratoga Campaign *part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain Brunswick-luneburg Hesse-Hanau Iroquois Confederation (except Oneida (tribe)s)	June 14, 1777 October 17, 1777	Decisive American victory: Surrender of British army Entry of France into the war
	Northern Theater *Part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain	1778 1782	???[SUP][clarification needed][/SUP]
	Gulf Coast campaign *Part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain Choctaw Creek	1779 1782	Decisive Spanish/American victory
	Yorktown Campaign *Part of the American Revolutionary War*	Great Britain Ansbach-Bayreuth Hesse-Kassel	January October, 1781	Decisive Franco/American victory
Northwest Indian War or Little Turtle's War or Miami Campaign		Western Confederacy Canadian Militia	1785 1795	American victory, Treaty of Greenville
Quasi-War or Franco-American War or Half War		French Republic	1798 1800	Indecisive American victory: End of French privateer attacks on American shipping United States neutrality and renunciation of claims against France
First Barbary War or Barbary Coast War or Tripolitan War		Vilayet of Tripoli Morocco	1801 1805	American victory, peace treaty
Tecumseh's War or Tecumseh's Rebellion		Tecumseh's Confederacy	August November 1811	American victory, peace treaty
War of 1812 or Second War of Independence		British Empire Shawnee Red Sticks Ojibway Chickamauga Meskwaki Iroquois Miami Mingo Odawa Kickapoo Lenape Mascouten Potawatomi Sauk Wyandot	June 18, 1812 March 23, 1815	Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	Atlantic Theater *Part of the War of 1812*	British Empire	1812 1815	British blockade of America: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	Chesapeake Campaign Part of the Atlantic Theater of the War of 1812	British Empire	1813 1814	Inconclusive: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	Great Lakes and Western Theater *Part of the War of 1812*	British Empire	1812 1815	American control of Lake Erie, British control of remaining four lake: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	Canadian Campaign Part of the Great Lakes and Western Theater of the War of 1812	British Empire	1812 1813	Indecisive: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	American Northwest Campaign Part of the Great Lakes and Western Theater of the War of 1812	British Empire	1813	Inconclusive: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	American West Campaign Part of the Great Lakes and Western Theater of the War of 1812	British Empire	1813 1814	Inconclusive, British maintain control of Fort Mackinac: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	Niagara Frontier Campaign Part of the Great Lakes and Western Theater of the War of 1812	British Empire	American invasion force defeated: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	St. Lawrence and Lower Canada Campaign Part of the Great Lakes and Western Theater of the War of 1812	British Empire
	Niagara and Plattsburgh Campaigns Part of the Great Lakes and Western Theater of the War of 1812	British Empire	1814	Inconclusive, Americans regain control of Lake Champlain: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	Southern Theater *Part of the War of 1812*	British Empire	1814 1815	Decisive American victory: Treaty of Ghent Status quo ante bellum
	Creek War Part of the Southern Theater of the War of 1812	Red Stick Creek	1813 1814	American/Allied Native American victory
Second Barbary War or Algerian War		Algiers	1815	American victory
West Indies Anti-Piracy Operations		Caribbean Pirates	1817 1825	American victory
First Seminole War		Seminole Spanish Florida	November 22, 1817 April 12, 1818	American victory
African Anti-Slavery Operations		African Slave Traders	1819 1861	Atlantic slave trade suppressed by 1861
Callao Affair		Spain	November 5 6, 1820	Spanish vow to punish those responsible for attacks on American shipping.
Arikara War		Arikara	1823	The Arikara eventually settled with the Mandan and Hidatsa on the Fort Berthold Reservation in North Dakota
Aegean Anti-Piracy Operations		Greek Pirates	1825 1828	United States victory
Winnebago War or Le Fèvre Indian War		Prairie La Crosse Ho-Chunks, with a few allies	1827	United States victory; Ho-Chunks cede lead mining region to the United States
First Sumatran Expedition		Chiefdom of Kuala Batee	February 6 February 9, 1832	United States victory
Black Hawk War or Black Hawk Campaign		Black Hawk's British Band, with Ho-Chunk and Potawatomi allies	MayAugust 1832	United States victory
Second Seminole War or Florida War		Seminole	December 23, 1835 August 14, 1842	3,800 Seminoles transported to the Indian Territory, 300 remain in Everglades
United States Exploring Expedition		Fiji [HR][/HR] Samoa [HR][/HR] Tabiteuea	1838 1842	Successful expedition, victory in battle with aboriginals
Second Sumatran Expedition		Chiefdom of Quallah Battoo	December 1838 January 1839	United States victory, Malays agree to cease attacks on American vessels
Capture of Monterey		Mexico	October 1920, 1842	United States captures Monterey
Battle of Kororareka		Māori	March 11, 1845	Māori victory
MexicanAmerican War or Mexican War		Mexico	April 25, 1846 February 2, 1848	Decisive United States victory: Republic of Texas unites with the United States End of all conflict between Texas and Mexico All claims by Texas recognized by Mexico Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo Mexican Cession
	Texas Campaign *Part of the Mexican-American War*	Mexico	1846	Decisive US victory: All Mexican forces pushed out of State of Texas, Mexican bandits suppressed
	Conquest of California *Part of the Mexican-American War*	Mexico	1846 1847	Decisive US victory: Declaration of Independence of California and establishment of the Republic of California United States annexed the Republic of California All Mexican forces defeated or surrender to US Indian tribal nations recognize US suzerainty Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
	New Mexico and Arizona Campaign *Part of the Mexican-American War*	Mexico	1846 1847	Decisive US victory: All Mexican forces pushed out of region Territory annexed to the US Indian tribal nations recognize US suzerainty Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
	Pacific Coast Campaign *Part of the Mexican-American War*	Mexico	1847 1848	Decisive US victory Indian tribal nations recognize US suzerainty
	Mexico City Campaign *Part of the Mexican-American War*	Mexico	1847	Decisive US victory Mexican Cession Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
Cayuse War		Cayuse	1847 1855	United States victory
Pitt River Expedition		Tolowa Nomlaki Chimariko Wintun	April 28 September 13, 1850	???[SUP][clarification needed][/SUP]
Apache Wars		Apache Ute Yavapai	1851 1900	Decisive American victory, Apaches moved to reservations
Bombardment of San Juan del Norte or Bombardment of Greytown		Nicaragua	July 13, 1854	United States victory, town severely damaged
Puget Sound War		Nisqually Muckleshoot Puyallup Klickitat Haida Tlingit	1855 1856	Indians relocated to Siletz, Grand Ronde, and Coast Reservations
Rogue River Wars		Rogue River people	1855 1856	Indians relocated to Siletz, Grand Ronde, and Coast Reservations
Third Seminole War or Billy Bowlegs War		Seminole	1855 1858	United States victory
Yakima War		Yakama	1855 1858	American victory, peace treaty
Battle of Ty-ho Bay		Chinese Pirates	August 4, 1855	Anglo-American victory
First Fiji Expedition		Fiji	October 1855	United States victory in battle, objective failed
Second Opium War or Second Anglo-Chinese War or Second China War		Qing Dynasty	1856 1859	Treaty of Tianjin June 18, 1858
Navajo Wars		Navajo	1858 1866	United States victory, Long Walk of the Navajo
Second Fiji Expedition		Fiji	616 October 1858	United States victory
Paraguay Expedition		Paraguay	1859	Paraguay extended an apology to the United States, indemnified the family of the slain Water Witch crewman, and granted the United States a new and highly advantageous commercial treaty
Paiute War or Paiute Indian War or Pyramid Lake War		Paiute Bannock Shoshone	1860	United States victory
Reform War		Conservatives	March 6, 1860	United States victory
American Civil War or War Between the States		Confederate States of America	April 12, 1861 April 9, 1865	Union victory: Territorial integrity of the United States of America preserved Slavery abolished Seceded states of the Confederate States of America eventually re-admitted to the Union
	Eastern Theater *Part of the American Civil War*	Confederate States of America	1861 1865	Union victory
	Western Theater *Part of the American Civil War*	Confederate States of America	1861 1865	Union victory
	Lower Seaboard Theater *Part of the American Civil War*	Confederate States of America	1862 1865	Union victory
	Pacific Coast Theater *Part of the American Civil War*	Confederate States of America	1862 1865	Union victory
	Trans-Mississippi Theater *Part of the American Civil War*	Confederate States of America	1862 1865	Union victory
Bombardment of Qui Nhơn or Cochinchina Campaign		Nguyen Dynasty	July 31, 1861	United States victory, fort silenced
Dakota War of 1862 or Sioux Uprising or Sioux Outbreak of 1862		Dakota Sioux	August 17 December 26, 1862	United States victory
Colorado War		Cheyenne Arapaho	1863 1865	United States victory
Battles for Shimonoseki		Chōshū Domain	July 20, 1863 September 6, 1864	Decisive Allied victory
Snake War		Paiute Bannock Shoshone	1864 1868	United States victory
Powder River Expedition or Connor Expedition		Sioux Cheyenne Arapaho	1865	United States victory; raids along Bozeman trail stopped
Red Cloud's War or Bozeman War or Powder River War		Lakota Cheyenne Arapaho	1866 1868	United States victory: Treaty of Fort Laramie (186 Lakota people confined to reservations in the Bozeman Trail and in Fort Laramie The Lakota and Northern Cheyenne territory made into reservations but part of the United States
Comanche Campaign or Comanche War		Cheyenne Arapaho Comanche Kiowa	1867 1875	United States victory
Formosa Expedition or Taiwan Expedition of 1867		Paiwan	June 1867	United States objectives failed
Korean Expedition or Shinmiyangyo		Joseon Dynasty	June 1, 1871 July 3, 1871	United States military victory, United States diplomatic failure; Korean-American Treaty of Amity and Commerce
Modoc War or Modoc Campaign or Lava Beds War		Modoc	July 6, 1872 June 4, 1873	United States victory
Red River War		Cheyenne Arapaho Comanche Kiowa	June 27, 1874 June 1875	United States victory; end to the Texas-Indian Wars
Black Hills War or Great Sioux War of 187677 or Little Big Horn Campaign		Lakota Northern Cheyenne Arapaho	1876 1877	United States victory
Nez Perce War or Nez Perce Campaign		Nez Perce	1877	United States victory
Bannock War or Bannock Campaign		Bannock Shoshone	1878	United States victory
Cheyenne War or Cheyenne Campaign		Cheyenne	1878 1879	United States victory
Sheepeater Indian War		Shoshone	1879	United States victory
White River War or Ute War or Ute Campaign		Ute	1879 1880	United States victory
Pine Ridge Campaign or Ghost Dance War		Sioux	November 1890 January 1891	United States victory
Second Samoan Civil War		Mataafans	1898 1899	Mataafan victory, Mata'afa Iosefo becomes high chief of Samoa; United States acquires American Samoa, Germany acquires German Samoa
SpanishAmerican War		Spain	April 25 August 12, 1898	United States victory: Decisive United States victory Treaty of Paris Spain relinquishes sovereignty over Cuba, cedes the Philippine Islands, Puerto Rico, and Guam to the United States for the sum of $20 million
	Caribbean Theater *Part of the Spanish-American War*	Spain	1898	US victory
	Cuban Campaign Part of the Caribbean Theatre of the Spanish-American War	Spain	1898	US victory
	Puerto Rican Campaign Part of the Caribbean Theatre of the Spanish-American War	Spain	1898	Militarily inconclusive, Spain cedes Puerto Rico in accordance with the accords of the Treaty of Paris of 1898
	Pacific Theater *Part of the Spanish-American War*	Spain	1898	US victory
	Guam Campaign Part of the Pacific Theatre of the Spanish-American War	Spain	1898	United States victory: United States captures Guam
	Philippine Campaign Part of the Pacific Theatre of the Spanish-American War	Spain	1898	Expulsion of the Spanish colonial government during SpanishAmerican War (189
Moro Rebellion		Sultanate of Sulu Moro	1899 1913	United States victory
PhilippineAmerican War or Philippine War of Independence or Philippine Insurrection		First Philippine Republic Revolutionary forces Pulajanes	June 2, 1899 July 4, 1902	United States victory and dissolution of the First Philippine Republic; The Philippine Islands becomes an unincorporated territory of the United States
Boxer Rebellion or The Boxer Uprising		Righteous Harmony Society Qing Empire	September 28, 1899 August 15, 1900	Alliance victory
Occupation of Nicaragua or Nicaraguan Campaign		Liberal rebels	1912 1933	United States victory
Mexican Revolution or Mexican Expedition or Pancho Villa Expedition		Mexico Yaqui	April 21, 1914 June 16, 1919	Porfirio Diaz ousted from power and exiled in France, Convention of Aguascalientes between revolutionary leaders, Mexican Constitution of 1917 enacted, assassination of important revolutionary leaders Madero, Zapata and Carranza, founding of the National Revolutionary Party
Occupation of Haiti or Haitian Campaign or Caco War		Haiti Caco rebels	July 28, 1915 August 1, 1934	United States victory, Cacos defeated, Haiti occupied.
Occupation of the Dominican Republic or Dominican Campaign		Dominican Republic	1916 1924	United States victory, Dominican Republic occupied.
World War I or First World War or Great War		Germany Austria-Hungary Ottoman Empire Bulgaria	1917 1918	Armistice with Germany November 11, 1918 Paris Peace Conference 1919 Treaty of Berlin (August 25, 1921) Treaty of Trianon (in part) Allied victory: End of the German, Russian, Ottoman, and Austro-Hungarian empires Formation of new countries in Europe and the Middle East Transfer of German colonies and regions of the former Ottoman Empire to other powers Establishment of the League of Nations.
	Asian and Pacific Theatre *Part of World War I*	Germany	1917 1918	Allied victory; Treaty of Versailles
	European Theatre *Part of World War I*	Germany Austria-Hungary	1917 1918	Allied victory; Treaty of Versailles, Treaty of Brest-Litovsk
	Italian Campaign Part of the European Theatre of World War I	Germany Austria-Hungary	1917 1918	Allied victory; Treaty of Versailles
	Western Front Part of the European Theatre of World War I	Germany Austria-Hungary	1917 1918	Allied victory; Collapse of the German Empire.
	First Battle of the Atlantic *Part of World War I*	Germany	1917 1918	Allied victory; Treaty of Versailles
Russian Civil War		Russia	1918 1920	Allied withdrawal from Russia
	North Russia Campaign *Part of the Russian Civil War*	Russia	1918 1920	Allied withdrawal
	Siberian Intervention *Part of the Russian Civil War*	Russia	1918 1920	Allied withdrawal
World War II or Second World War		Nazi Germany Empire of Japan Fascist Italy Italian Social Republic Hungary Romania Bulgaria Finland Thailand Croatia	December 7, 1941 September 2, 1945	Allied victory: Dissolution of the Third Reich Dissolution of the Empire of Japan Creation of the United Nations Emergence of the United States and the Soviet Union as superpowers Beginning of the Cold War
	Pacific War *Part of World War II*	Empire of Japan Manchukuo Wang Jingwei regime Second Philippine Republic Thailand Free India	1941 1945	Decisive Allied victory End of World War II: Fall of the Empire of Japan. Continuation of Chinese Civil War. Substantial weakening of European colonial powers, gradual decolonization of Asia (including the Indonesian National Revolution and the First Indochina War) American occupation of Japan, removal of all Japanese troops occupying parts of the Republic of China, retrocession of Taiwan to China, liberation of Korea and Manchuria from Japanese rule, division of Korea, secession of all Japanese-held islands in the Central Pacific Ocean, such as the Marianas Islands, the Marshall Islands, the Caroline Islands, and the Palau Islands to the United Nations, removal of all Japanese troops from the Australian-governed Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, the Admiralty Islands, and the Bismarck Archipelago, seizure of Sakhalin and of the Kuril Islands by the Soviet Union
	Burma Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan State of Burma Thailand Free India	January 1942 July 1945	Decisive Allied victory, leading to later Independence of Burma in 1948
	Solomon Islands Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	January 1942 August 21, 1945	Decisive Allied victory
	New Guinea Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	January 23, 1942 August 1945	Allied victory
	Aleutian Islands Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	June 3, 1942 August 15, 1943	Allied victory
	Guadalcanal Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	August 7, 1942 February 9, 1943	Strategic Allied victory
	Gilbert and Marshall Islands Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	November, 1943 February 1944	Allied victory
	Mariana and Palau Islands Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	June November 1944	American victory
	Philippines Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan Second Philippine Republic	October 20, 1944 September 2, 1945	Allied victory; Allied forces liberate the Philippines
	Volcano and Ryukyu Islands Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	January June 1945	Allied victory
	Japan Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	February 16 July 23, 1945	Allied victory
	Borneo Campaign Part of the Pacific War of World War II	Empire of Japan	May 1 August 1, 1945	Allied victory; the Japanese are pushed further from Australia
	Second Battle of the Atlantic *Part of World War II*	Germany Italy Vichy France	1941 1945	Decisive Allied victory
	Mediterranean, Middle East and African Theaters *Part of World War II*	Germany Italy Vichy France Italian Social Republic	1941 1945	Allied victory
	EgyptLibya Campaign Part of the Mediterranean, Middle East and African Theaters of World War II	Germany	1942 1943	Allied forces finally succeed in driving all Axis forces out of Libya
	Algeria-French Morocco Campaign Part of the Mediterranean, Middle East and African Theaters of World War II	Vichy France Germany (naval participation in Morocco)	November 816, 1942	Allied victory
	Tunisia Campaign *Part of the Mediterranean, Middle East and African Theaters of World War II*	Germany Italy	November 17, 1942 May 13, 1943	Decisive Allied victory
	Sicily Campaign Part of the Mediterranean, Middle East and African Theaters of World War II	Italy Germany	July 9 August 17, 1943	Allied victory
	European Theater *Part of World War II*	Germany Italy Vichy France Italian Social Republic Hungary	1943 1945	Decisive Allied victory: Fall of Nazi Germany (concurrently with Eastern Front) Fall of Fascist Italy Liberation of occupied countries in Western and Northern Europe Partition of Germany (1945)
	Naples-Foggia Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany Italy (to 8 September)	September 3, 1943 September 16, 1943	Allied victory
	Anzio Campaign Part of the European Theater of World War II	Germany Italian Social Republic	January 22, 1944 June 4, 1944	Operation successful; VI Corps established beachhead; Battle of Anzio followed
	Rome-Arno Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany	January 22, 1944 September 9, 1944	German resistance crumbled
	Normandy Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany	June 6, 1944 mid-July 1944	Decisive Allied victory
	Northern France Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany	June 6 August 15, 1944	Decisive Allied victory
	Southern France Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany	August 15, 1944 September 14, 1944	Allied victory
	North Apennines Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany Italian Social Republic	August 25 December 17, 1944	Inconclusive
	Rhineland Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany	August 25, 1944 March 1945	Allied victory
	Ardennes-Alsace Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany	December 16, 1944 January 18, 1945	Allied victory
	Central Europe Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany Hungary	February 8, 1945 May 8, 1945	Allied victory
	Po Valley Campaign *Part of the European Theater of World War II*	Germany Italian Social Republic	April 6, 1945 May 2, 1945	Decisive Allied victory: German surrender in Italy Italian Social Republic disestablished
Cold War		Soviet Union Bulgaria Czechoslovakia Hungary Poland Romania East Germany Albania People's Republic of China North Korea Cuba North Vietnam Khmer Rouge Afghanistan Grenada	1947 1991	Dissolution of the USSR
	Korean War or Korean Conflict or The Forgotten War *Part of the Cold War*	Democratic People's Republic of Korea People's Republic of China Soviet Union Bulgaria Czechoslovakia Hungary Poland Romania	1950 1953	Cease-fire armistice, North Korean invasion of South Korea repelled, UN invasion of North Korea repelled, Chinese invasion of South Korea repelled, Korean Demilitarized Zone established, little territorial change at the 38th parallel border, essentially uti possidetis
	Merklín Incident *Part of the Cold War*	Czechoslovakia	March 10, 1953	American F-84 shot down
	First Indochina War or French Indochina War *Part of the Cold War*	Democratic Republic of Vietnam Pathet Lao Khmer Issarak People's Republic of China Soviet Union	1950 1954	Geneva Conference Departure of the French from Indochina
	Bay of Pigs Invasion *Part of the Cold War*	Cuba	1961	Invasion expelled
	Vietnam War or Vietnam Conflict or Second Indochina War *Part of the Cold War*	North Vietnam National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam (NLF) People's Republic of China Soviet Union	1953 1973	Peace treaty between Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam) and Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) signed at Paris Peace Accords. Armed forces of the American forces withdraw from Indochina.
	1975 Spring Offensive or Vietnam War or Vietnam Conflict *Part of the Cold War*	North Vietnam National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam (NLF) People's Republic of China Soviet Union	1975	Paris Peace Accord broken. Dissolution annexation of the Republic of Vietnam by Democratic Republic of Vietnam. South Vietnamese Vietnamese boat people granted asylum by the United States, Canada, Australia, Germany, France, United Kingdom, and Japan
	Laotian Civil War or Secret War Part of the Second Indochina War of the Cold War	Pathet Lao North Vietnam	1953 1975	Establishment of the Lao People's Democratic Republic
	Cambodian Civil War Part of the Second Indochina War of the Cold War	National United Front of Kampuchea Khmer Rouge North Vietnam National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam (NLF)	1970 1975	Fall of the Khmer Republic to the Khmer Rouge; creation of Democratic Kampuchea; Beginning of Cambodian Genocide
	Congo Crisis *part of the Cold War*	Congo (Stanleyville) Simba Maoists Soviet Union Cuba United Arab Republic Algeria Congo-Brazzaville Tanzania Burundi People's Republic of China Katanga South Kasai Belgium South Africa Rhodesia	June 30, 1960 November 25, 1965	United States victory, Joseph Mobutu seizes power, start of Zaire
	Invasion of the Dominican Republic or Operation Power Pack *Part of the Cold War*	Dominican Republic Supported by: Cuba	April 28, 1965 September 1966	United States victory, Juan Bosch excluded from Presidency, election of Joaquín Balaguer
	Yom Kippur War or October War *part of the Cold War*	Egypt Syria Iraq Jordan Soviet Union Saudi Arabia Pakistan Tunisia Algeria Libya Morocco Cuba Palestinian Liberation Organization North Korea	October 625, 1973	Israeli tactical victory, Geneva Conference and the Sinai Interim Agreement, both Egypt and Israel achieve political and strategic gains
	Soviet war in Afghanistan or Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan or Soviet-Afghan War *part of the Cold War*	Soviet Union Democratic Republic of Afghanistan	December 24, 1979 February 15, 1989	United States victory, beginning of Taliban and Al Qaeda
	Invasion of Grenada or Operation Urgent Fury *Part of the Cold War*	Grenada Cuba	25 October 15 December 1983	Decisive United States/CPF victory
Puerto Rican Nationalist Party Revolts of the 1950s or Operation Blue Bat		Puerto Rican nationalists	October 30, 1950	United States victory
1958 Lebanon crisis or Operation Blue Bat		Lebanese Rebels	July 15 October 25, 1958	Opposition successfully intimidated[SUP][clarification needed][/SUP]
Colombian Conflict		Guerrillas	1964present	conflict ongoing
1981 Gulf of Sidra incident or First Gulf of Sidra Incident		Libya	August 19, 1981	US victory; Deterioration of Libya-United States relations
Lebanese Civil War or Multinational Force in Lebanon		Shia militia Druze miltia Syria	August 24, 1982 February 7, 1984	Withdrawal starting February 7
Action in the Gulf of Sidra or Operation Prairie Fire		Libya	March 1986	Tactical US victory
Bombing of Libya or Operation El Dorado Canyon		Libya	April 15, 1986	Tactical US victory
Iran-Iraq War or Operation Earnest Will or Tanker War		Iran	1987 1988	Operation Prime Chance, Operation Nimble Archer, Operation Praying Mantis; United States victory
1989 Gulf of Sidra incident or Second Gulf of Sidra Incident		Libya	January 4, 1989	Both sides claimed victory; Deterioration of Libya-United States relations
Invasion of Panama or Operation Just Cause		Panama PDF	December 20, 1989 January 31, 1990	Decisive United States victory
Gulf War or Persian Gulf War or Operation Desert Storm		Iraq	August 2, 1990 February 28, 1991	Coalition victory: Imposition of sanctions against Iraq Removal of Iraqi invasion force from Kuwait
Iraqi no-fly zones		Iraq	1991 2003	Operation Provide Comfort, Operation Southern Watch, Cruise missile strikes on Iraq (June 1993), Cruise missile strikes on Iraq (1996), Operation Northern Watch, Operation Desert Fox, Operation Southern Focus; Coalition victory
Somali Civil War or Operation Restore Hope		Various Somali factions	1992 1994	Multinational success
Bosnian War or Operation Deliberate Force		Republika Srpska	1993 1995	Dayton Accords
Operation Uphold Democracy		Haiti	19 September 1994 31 March 1995	Reinstatement of Jean-Bertrand Aristide as President of Haiti
Bombings of Afghanistan and Sudan or Operation Infinite Reach		Al-Qaeda Harkat-ul-Mujahideen National Islamic Front	August 20, 1998	Disputed
Kosovo War or Operation Allied Force or Operation Noble Anvil		Federal Republic of Yugoslavia	March 24 June 10, 1999	Kumanovo Treaty, UN Security Council Resolution 1244; Reflagged as KFOR in 1999 in support of Operation Joint Guardian
War on Terror		Al-Qaeda Taliban Caucasian militants Al-Shabaab Islamic Courts Union Iraqi insurgents Hamas Hezbollah Baath Party Loyalists	7 October 2001 present	Ongoing: Fall of the Taliban government in Afghanistan Destruction of Al-Qaeda camps Taliban insurgency Fall of the Ba'ath Party government in Iraq Execution of Saddam Hussein Free elections Iraqi insurgency Killing of Osama bin Laden
	Operation Enduring Freedom *Part of the War on Terror*	In Afghanistan: Taliban al-Qaeda In the Philippines: Moro Islamic Liberation Front Abu Sayyaf Jemaah Islamiyah In Somalia: Al-Shabaab Hizbul Islam Somalia Pirates In Sahara: Al-Qaeda Organization in the Islamic Maghreb	7 October 2001 present	Conflicts ongoing; Taliban regime overthrown but their forces still fight ISAF and Afghan government forces Killing of Osama bin Laden
	War in Afghanistan or Operation Enduring Freedom - Afghanistan Part of Operation Enduring Freedom of the War on Terror	Insurgent groups: Taliban al-Qaeda IMU HI-Gulbuddin HI-Khalis Haqqani network Lashkar-e-Taiba JeM ETIM TTP IEW TNSM IJU [HR][/HR] 2001 Invasion: Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan al-Qaeda	October 7, 2001 present	Conflict ongoing: Invasion of Afghanistan Fall of the Taliban government Destruction of al-Qaeda camps Over two thirds of al-Qaeda's leadership demolished Occupation of Afghanistan Establishment of a new Afghan Government and Security Force Taliban insurgency War in North-West Pakistan Killing of Osama bin Laden
	Operation Enduring Freedom - Philippines or Operation Freedom Eagle Part of Operation Enduring Freedom of the War on Terror	Jemaah Islamiyah Abu Sayyaf Rajah Sulaiman Movement al-Qaeda	15 January 2002 present	Conflict ongoing
	Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa Part of Operation Enduring Freedom of the War on Terror	Insurgents: al-Itihaad al-Islamiya (Dis) Islamic Courts Union (Dis) Harakat al-Shabaab Mujahedeen Hizbul Islam (Dis) Alliance for the Re-liberation of Somalia Ras Kamboni Brigades Jabhatul Islamiya Mu'askar Anole al-Qaeda [HR][/HR] See: Somali Civil War Pirates: Somali Pirates Somali Marines National Volunteer Coast Guard (NVCG) Marka group Puntland Group Yemeni Pirates	7 October 2002 present	Conflict ongoing
	Operation Enduring Freedom - Trans Sahara Part of Operation Enduring Freedom of the War on Terror	al-Qaeda Organization in the Islamic Maghreb	6 February 2007 present	Conflict ongoing
	Iraq War or Operation Iraqi Freedom *Part of the War on Terror*	Insurgent groups: Baath Party Loyalists Islamic State of Iraq al-Qaeda in Iraq (200311) Mahdi Army Special Groups Islamic Army of Iraq Ansar al-Sunnah [HR][/HR] Iraq	March 20, 2003 December 15, 2011	United States/Coalition victory, Coalition combat operations concluded, low level internal conflict ongoing: Invasion of Iraq Overthrow of Baath Party government and execution of Saddam Hussein Coalition occupation of Iraq Iraqi insurgency and sectarian violence Subsequent depletion of Iraqi insurgency Improvements in public security Foreign terrorist operations Elections held Presence of American troops in advise and assist role until the end of 2011
	War in North-West Pakistan or Operation Freedom Eagle *Part of the War on Terror*	Taliban Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan TNSM Al-Qaeda Lashkar-e-Islam Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan Ghazi Force	March 16, 2004 present	Conflict ongoing: Ongoing insurgency Large part of FATA under Taliban control Shifting public support for the Pakistani government
	Yemeni al-Qaeda crackdown *Part of the War on Terror*	Islamic Emirate of Abyan al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula Harakat al-Shabaab Mujahideen	January 14, 2010 present	Conflict ongoing
Second Liberian Civil War		Liberians United for Reconciliation and Democracy Movement for Democracy in Liberia	2003	US forces withdraw in 2003 after UNMIL is established
Lord's Resistance Army insurgency		Lord's Resistance Army supported by: Sudan	October 2011 Present	Crisis ongoing
2011 Libyan civil war or Operation Odyssey Dawn		Libyan Arab Jamahiriya: Armed forces Militia	March 19 October 23, 2011	Coalition victory: Death of Muammar Gaddafi Dissolution of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya

Rob Roy · Sep 2, 2013

You forgot the domestic "war on drugs".

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

I didn't forget it. We are talking about Military Conflict, not Paramilitary-DEA.

In fact, you missed it, All the Paramilitary CIA conflicts and the the current SpecOPs are not listed. Still secret.

Rob Roy · Sep 2, 2013

Doer said:
I didn't forget it. We are talking about Military Conflict, not Paramilitary-DEA.

In fact, you missed it, All the Paramilitary CIA conflicts and the the current SpecOPs are not listed. Still secret.

You forgot Cambodia, no wait, that didn't happen.

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

Why simply agree? The Nam conflict certainly includes Cambodia.

Constiello · Sep 2, 2013

wtf happened to this thread.

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

Constiello said:
wtf happened to this thread.

The same as you....total annihilation of Sunni Jihad.

Harrekin · Sep 2, 2013

Doer said:
The same as you....total annihilation of Sunni Jihad.

Except you now militarily support Sunni Jihad...

So yeah...

Doer · Sep 2, 2013

Harrekin said:
Except you now militarily support Sunni Jihad...

So yeah...

Complicated...I will grant you. But some among us know the composition of the Syrian opposition, better than others I see.

Apart for the actual Stateless mutt animals, there is plenty of Persian and Pastun. They like to fight.

And will they back Sunni until the knife in the back of the Sunni? You bet.

But, what I speak of the uber-Jihad warlord of Sunni. Pasha Bey, before and now Sadam Hussain and the Assad croak, sure to hang.

These are the Gestapo dregs set in motion as the Baathist Party. Thugs will hang in the never ending messing with Sunni Jihad. It isn't even a War, it is Jefferson's Mind Fuck. It is long term intentional damage to Sunni power. But, it is a religion. Can't stamp it out.

We can only hope these two War Cults will calm down and become the religions of peace. But, Christians are not Peaceful.

And after all this time of the peaceful wandering Jew, Sunni Jihad has created the Fist of Zion for us.

How about that?

So, now, sit back for vast and head scratching mess that has to go into the Sunni mind about what we really mean here.

All lies. I'm listening to McCain and the other guy (shrug

) and they are cheerleading for Obama in double=talk. Party line double=talk. The Press has swerved to repeating double=talk.

It will be nothing they want us to think. I never has been. The Congress will now say.

Rolling Thunder.

And Obama will punt and say, Well, I tried to limit it but the Republicans are dead set. ( use your Clinton voice there.)

Chemical weapons used by Syria

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