abandonconflict
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So which Islamic theocracy practices apartheid?
Chemical weapons used by Syria
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Doer
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Exactly. Right on!
Doer
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All humans crave apartheid. Separate and not equal. History shows this. We apprehend the current struggle or we can see the sweep of history, and no, there is no change in the basics. We still practice it everywhere, neighborhood by neighbor, shit sand dune, by deserted waste land. Everywhere we are desperate to see Other, to validate Ours. Fearful little candles in the dark, even still.
For a current example see the genocide in Darfur.
In the ongoing genocide, African farmers and others in Darfur are being systematically displaced and murdered at the hands of the Janjaweed. The genocide in Darfur has claimed 400,000 lives and displaced over 2,500,000 people. More than one hundred people continue to die each day; five thousand die every month.
http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/genocide-in-sudan.htm
That is just one sect Islamic theocracy, right now, that practices apartheid....to death. That is the logical course of Apartheid in Conquest as you know.
abandonconflict
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Canna Sylvan
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I hope to God you're doing this on purpose. Otherwise, go to the VA and get checked for Brocha's aphasia.
FreedomWorks
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All the things you're sure about seem to be wrong. Because I'm pretty sure some greedy narcissists want money, power and fear. Care to challenge me on that? Since you're so smart of course....
heckler73
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How dare you try to put this thread back on topic!
But since you brought it up
I posted a game-theory matrix looking at the matter using "rebels" and Assad. And assuming rational logic being applied, it made no sense (i.e. bad payoff) for Assad to use them under any condition. While the "rebels" had all the reason to do so.
HOWEVER, in looking at more details and other supplemental evidence, I am questioning my assumption in bold.
The big issue I am having is with the type of rocket body that was found at the supposed "scene of the crime".
This guy has been putting out some decent details of the rockets:
http://brown-moses.blogspot.ca/
The welds on those things I can tell you with high confidence are NOT being made by one handed, sunglasses wearing allahu-akbar robots in the Syrian desert. I've seen their work with those Hell Cannons and it is deplorable. I am surprised they are able to get many shots off with those propane bottle missiles they make without welds cracking left and right.
At the same time, there is video of what appears to be Republican Guard (i.e. SAA elites) setting up and firing a LARGE version of those UMLACAs (as Brown Moses calls them).
Now this doesn't mean these weapons couldn't have gotten into the hands of FSA or al-Whoever, since there are still defections from the SAA (perhaps not as much at present) where potential access to these devices may be possible. And there is a lack of proof still on whether or not these devices that were found are actually responsible.
But, IF these rockets (with their associated warheads) are responsible, then it becomes most likely the SAA are the culprits.
Which comes back around to the original question; how is this logical?
Only desperation would drive one to such irrational actions. Or one giant fuck-up by some lower-rank, colour-blind, dyslexic hack who couldn't tell the difference between armaments (several times over).
When is the UN releasing their findings?
Doer
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We both stand corrected in the 1/2 of it. We all crave that, as well. Granted and a good point. Security apart from Other, to ensure some limited Liberty. Also, we attempt the melting pot approach to at least try to have some Equality in Law. No Apartheid in the Secular Law here, unlike in Israel. But, practiced in fact, as the worst of Jo'berg, in LA last night. The USA doesn't have special Laws for Watts. It just has special treatment by special police.
The result is... US and THEM. IAC, apartheid for Sunni seems pretty open and they won't deny it. They shall take it to the next step.
No US, none of our ways beliefs, etc, just THEM.
Anyway, I crave you all to stay out of my yard, and I give you the same. I crave that we all can go about our limited liberty and if we cross paths, it is as mutually cool. We have that here for the most part and it has not been easy.
Most places don't. In Europe, is the battleground, even still.
Now how pretty would it be if Islam was not opposed by the Frank, Charlemagne, in 770s CE? It is still the same Jihad. And those Syrian's have been know as the most vicious of the tough since before then. We don't want to slug it out with them, I am sure.
It just occurs to me, if Assad was on the ropes for real, then this can be a call for help. Think of the blocks. Saudi cannot link up with the Balkan Muslims or into Russia, through the -Stans, because of Assad and Iran are blocking. Israel and Jordan are blocking. It is a wide block across the Med. to keep Sunni Jihad out and pushed south.
Assad can now, perhaps give up the weapons, slowly, and join the real world. Over a decent period, Putin looks like the hero. Assad gets the aid he needs, Russian keeps the bases. Close the borders with our help in Iraq, etc. and do a little roundup, Syrian style.
Sunni get's hoisted on their own Jihad? Again.
abandonconflict
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doublejj
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it only takes 1 or 2 defectors in the right place to launch one of those missiles. Assad doesn't strike me as stupid enough to do it.......How dare you try to put this thread back on topic!
But since you brought it up
I posted a game-theory matrix looking at the matter using "rebels" and Assad. And assuming rational logic being applied, it made no sense (i.e. bad payoff) for Assad to use them under any condition. While the "rebels" had all the reason to do so.
HOWEVER, in looking at more details and other supplemental evidence, I am questioning my assumption in bold.
The big issue I am having is with the type of rocket body that was found at the supposed "scene of the crime".
This guy has been putting out some decent details of the rockets:
http://brown-moses.blogspot.ca/
The welds on those things I can tell you with high confidence are NOT being made by one handed, sunglasses wearing allahu-akbar robots in the Syrian desert. I've seen their work with those Hell Cannons and it is deplorable. I am surprised they are able to get many shots off with those propane bottle missiles they make without welds cracking left and right.
View attachment 2811098
At the same time, there is video of what appears to be Republican Guard (i.e. SAA elites) setting up and firing a LARGE version of those UMLACAs (as Brown Moses calls them).
Now this doesn't mean these weapons couldn't have gotten into the hands of FSA or al-Whoever, since there are still defections from the SAA (perhaps not as much at present) where potential access to these devices may be possible. And there is a lack of proof still on whether or not these devices that were found are actually responsible.
But, IF these rockets (with their associated warheads) are responsible, then it becomes most likely the SAA are the culprits.
Which comes back around to the original question; how is this logical?
Only desperation would drive one to such irrational actions. Or one giant fuck-up by some lower-rank, colour-blind, dyslexic hack who couldn't tell the difference between armaments (several times over).
When is the UN releasing their findings?
abandonconflict
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The only people who want apartheid are the people benefiting from it, but if the tables were turned, oh would equality sound lovely.
stoned cockatoo
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you mean I am not the only one? I see him reply to the simplest of questions with the most confusing, nonsensical paragraphs imaginable. I do enjoy his combat strategies though.
ginwilly
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you mean the victims of apartheid are against it and those that benefit are for it? That's deep man.
Doer
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Do you really mean to suggest we can only crave one thing? What about Chocolate and Freedom and Security and Privacy?
To crave one is to need the others, in all cases. Mankind has many yearnings.....to argue, sub-divide, go small, all that.
You want to act like I said, "main craving", or "only craving" or something.
abandonconflict
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That's part of what I said, so it is slightly deeper than you make it out.
abandonconflict
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Doer
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Ya'll boys can ask away anytime. You know that. Else I take it as praise.you mean I am not the only one? I see him reply to the simplest of questions with the most confusing, nonsensical paragraphs imaginable. I do enjoy his combat strategies though.
Originally Posted by Canna Sylvan
Doer, you're getting a lot better at that foreign language of yours. I understand the words, but their collective nature has no meaning and lacks proper structure.
heckler73
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Well, just to throw some wrenches in the gears of what I just posted earlier:
http://www.rtl.be/info/belgique/faitsdivers/1031019/pierre-piccinin-persiste-et-signe-sur-rtl-tvi-al-assad-n-est-pas-derriere-l-attaque-au-gaz-et-il-serait-suicidaire-pour-l-occide?utm_source=info&utm_medium=HP_Headline&utm_campaign=HP_Headline_0
A reporter, Pierre Piccinin, was held by some "terrorists" while in Syria, and is now all over the Belgian media discussing how he overheard "Assad was not responsible".
I just stumbled onto this story and am reading it still... but it is weird. He was shuffled around various "rebel" groups, so that implies a manner of hierarchy or cohesion amongst them.
He apparently overheard a conversation on Skype IN ENGLISH between three people saying it wasn't the SAA...
hmmmmmmm...
That sounds weak to me... but maybe I'm missing something in the translation.
Dr Kynes
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I'm not sure the attacks weren't perpetrated by These Guys:How dare you try to put this thread back on topic!
But since you brought it up
I posted a game-theory matrix looking at the matter using "rebels" and Assad. And assuming rational logic being applied, it made no sense (i.e. bad payoff) for Assad to use them under any condition. While the "rebels" had all the reason to do so.
HOWEVER, in looking at more details and other supplemental evidence, I am questioning my assumption in bold.
The big issue I am having is with the type of rocket body that was found at the supposed "scene of the crime".
This guy has been putting out some decent details of the rockets:
http://brown-moses.blogspot.ca/
The welds on those things I can tell you with high confidence are NOT being made by one handed, sunglasses wearing allahu-akbar robots in the Syrian desert. I've seen their work with those Hell Cannons and it is deplorable. I am surprised they are able to get many shots off with those propane bottle missiles they make without welds cracking left and right.
View attachment 2811098
At the same time, there is video of what appears to be Republican Guard (i.e. SAA elites) setting up and firing a LARGE version of those UMLACAs (as Brown Moses calls them).
Now this doesn't mean these weapons couldn't have gotten into the hands of FSA or al-Whoever, since there are still defections from the SAA (perhaps not as much at present) where potential access to these devices may be possible. And there is a lack of proof still on whether or not these devices that were found are actually responsible.
But, IF these rockets (with their associated warheads) are responsible, then it becomes most likely the SAA are the culprits.
Which comes back around to the original question; how is this logical?
Only desperation would drive one to such irrational actions. Or one giant fuck-up by some lower-rank, colour-blind, dyslexic hack who couldn't tell the difference between armaments (several times over).
When is the UN releasing their findings?
im not saying the Great Horned rat was involved, im just saying, the Skaven are out there...