Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

hollywood420

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is it ok that my temps are staying 3-7 degrees warmer during lights out then lights on? how will this affect my yield and potinency of my buds. strain is grandaddy purp..
 

Bob Smith

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is it ok that my temps are staying 3-7 degrees warmer during lights out then lights on? how will this affect my yield and potinency of my buds. strain is grandaddy purp..
I don't see why that would be a huge issue; obviously it's not ideal, but it won't turn your buds into schwag or anything (assuming day and night temps are in an acceptable range).

I'm assuming you're running your lights at night, and the temp drop is great enough that even with the added heat from the light(s), it's not as great as the mid-day heat?

What kinda temps are we talking?
 

hollywood420

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I don't see why that would be a huge issue; obviously it's not ideal, but it won't turn your buds into schwag or anything (assuming day and night temps are in an acceptable range).

I'm assuming you're running your lights at night, and the temp drop is great enough that even with the added heat from the light(s), it's not as great as the mid-day heat?

What kinda temps are we talking?
well about the lights i was running them at night but i didnt have a temp change at all, so i flipped them to the day time and this gave me the temp diffrence. my temps are from 74-78 lights out and 70-75 lights on.
 

Bob Smith

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That doesn't make much sense, kiddo - if it's hotter during the day, and you're running your lights during the day, by definition it should be warmest during the day and coolest at night.

Regardless, those temps are fine.
 

hollywood420

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That doesn't make much sense, kiddo - if it's hotter during the day, and you're running your lights during the day, by definition it should be warmest during the day and coolest at night.

Regardless, those temps are fine.
now you understand why im :wall::wall::wall: lmfao thanks alot
 

wonderblunder

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Looking real nice. Hey Bob, Can't you get those auto top off valves and hook it to an RO so you always have a resavoir of Ro'ed water. I would be scared of flooding too. I run my water from the washing machine cold water........
 

Bob Smith

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Looking real nice. Hey Bob, Can't you get those auto top off valves and hook it to an RO so you always have a resavoir of Ro'ed water. I would be scared of flooding too. I run my water from the washing machine cold water........
I probably could, but that's just one more thing that could go wrong, in all honesty.

If my water was like 500PPMs and 9.5pH, then it'd definitely be worth it, but it just seems like the time it takes and the things that I have to forgo (like more frequent rez changeouts) aren't worth the incrementally cleaner water.

If when I change I start noticing some issues then I'll revisit the situation, but I'm pretty confident that they'll be fine (and actually do better with more frequent changeouts).

As I typed this I also just started leaning more towards doing 144 plants instead of 64 - I really need to not be so damned fickle.

Also, there was no way I'd be able to expand to four tables and use that RO filter - would take me the better part of a week to change them all out, whereas with a hose and a pump it'll take an hour or two.
 

shnkrmn

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You could get a second RO filter. I let mine run over night. It gets me about twenty gallons at a time that way and doesn't overflow because who can resist checking before breakfast?:bigjoint:. Between veg needs and my soon arriving ebb and grow system I may be constantly harvesting water in order to have enough on hand for res changes. My tap water is nearly 400 ppm, so I worry about all the Ca locking everything out.
 

Bob Smith

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You could get a second RO filter. I let mine run over night. It gets me about twenty gallons at a time that way and doesn't overflow because who can resist checking before breakfast?:bigjoint:. Between veg needs and my soon arriving ebb and grow system I may be constantly harvesting water in order to have enough on hand for res changes. My tap water is nearly 400 ppm, so I worry about all the Ca locking everything out.
With tapwater like yours, a filter is kinda a necessity, but with mine, I don't think it is.

If I do decide that it's something that I can't live without, I'll just get the Merlin (it's pretty expensive, but puts out ~40 gallons an hour - even that amount isn't enough for me, though).
 

Bob Smith

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cant wait for that... i think you'll like sog just as much as me:mrgreen:
Yeah, this is my only ever grow (okay, second - I did five gallon grow bags one time way back in the day to test it out) where I haven't gone at least 2 plants/sf, and I hate it.

Used to do 1/2 gallon grow bags (filled with Pro-Mix) and pack those fuckers in there.
 

smokingrubber

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With tapwater like yours, a filter is kinda a necessity, but with mine, I don't think it is.

If I do decide that it's something that I can't live without, I'll just get the Merlin (it's pretty expensive, but puts out ~40 gallons an hour - even that amount isn't enough for me, though).
If you've got space outside you could get a large reservior (250 gallon horse trough for less than $200). Get a good sump pump and a 50ft garden hose. Once your big reservior fills overnight, it will take about 10 minutes to fill any 50 gallon reservior inside. You could probably even use tap water if you let the reservior sit for 24hrs before you filled your small reserviors.

You could even put a pump in it and add a little waterfall. Yard Art ;)
 

Bob Smith

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If you've got space outside you could get a large reservior (250 gallon horse trough for less than $200). Get a good sump pump and a 50ft garden hose. Once your big reservior fills overnight, it will take about 10 minutes to fill any 50 gallon reservior inside. You could probably even use tap water if you let the reservior sit for 24hrs before you filled your small reserviors.

You could even put a pump in it and add a little waterfall. Yard Art ;)
Yeah, I'm really just over it (and for security reasons, can't setup anything outside of the garage).

Trust me guys, I'm not that worried about it - my plants will enjoy the bi-weekly changes of 150PPM water more then they will the 0PPM water for three months straight ;-)
 

Bob Smith

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Anyone who said "well, that's obviously an extra humidity dome, heating pad, and slab of 98 rockwool 1" cubes so that you can practice before taking 196 clones for your next run of 144", then give yourself a pat on the back.

Fuck it, we're going 144 - made up my mind in the hydro store twenty minutes ago.

Gonna go take 98 clones real quick as practice (haven't worked with rockwool in over a decade), so I'll be back in a bit.
 

smokingrubber

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Also, there was no way I'd be able to expand to four tables and use that RO filter - would take me the better part of a week to change them all out, whereas with a hose and a pump it'll take an hour or two.
You don't need 4 seperate reserviors. One reservior with 4 pumps. All tables drain back to the single reservior. Then stagger the fill schedule and after one tray fills and drains, then next one uses the same water. And so on. Just make sure it's a good sized reservior and you shouldn't have any problem. I'm running 3 trays off one reservior at my other grow. Works perfect!

The only problem is when you have to manouver the reservior and you'll have 4 pumps in there to deal with. Not that big of a deal after you've done it a couple times.
 

Bob Smith

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You don't need 4 seperate reserviors. One reservior with 4 pumps. All tables drain back to the single reservior. Then stagger the fill schedule and after one tray fills and drains, then next one uses the same water. And so on. Just make sure it's a good sized reservior and you shouldn't have any problem. I'm running 3 trays off one reservior at my other grow. Works perfect!

The only problem is when you have to manouver the reservior and you'll have 4 pumps in there to deal with. Not that big of a deal after you've done it a couple times.
Yeah, planning on one reservoir per every two tables, so if I do 2 1Ks I'll only have 1 reservoir, and if 4 600s, I'll have two.

Took a bunch of clones - got tired and didn't bother with the full 98, but there's probably about 70-80 in there.
 

smokingrubber

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On my other grow, our 1000w magnetic ballast went out about 6 weeks ago. A friend had a 600w digital he loaned us. It's been running for almost the entire flower cycle (we chopped last night). I would estimate that the buds are about 30% smaller than normal. The overall yield loss is extremely obvious. I am definately glad I stuck with 1000w ballasts.
 
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