jondamon
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After not having a digital pH meter on my 1st and 2nd grows and now having one for my 3rd 4th and 5th grows i couldnt recommend one more especially since the flo grow is hydro.
J
Auto berry grow thread. 2nd grow. 1st in a grow tent!!!
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Yes gumball, I have a airstone in there. I try to keep the ph to around 6.0-6.2. Am changing the water sat or sun and the leaves are still poking upwards quite alarmingly. My ph tool i use is a simple kit i got with the flo grow. You take a 2ml pippette of water and squirt it into the little cup thingy. Then add 2drops of ph solution and check it against the chart you get i the kit. Jondamon, you have mention about an ec meter in the past and the bloke in my grow shop said thats what he uses. Is it easy to use compared to how i do my ph readings?
Coming back to changing the water over the weekend, I will probably put plain 6.0ph but will get that down to the recommended 5.5-5.8 (will have to use my ph strips for that as my pippette kit only reads down to 6.0!!!! I will then just leave the nutes out for 2-3 days and see what the leave do. PPM in the 2 day old bucket of water is 360. Evian that I used the other day was 250ppm.
Once again thanks all the advice, I'm sure it would of gone tits up now without your help..
Coming back to changing the water over the weekend, I will probably put plain 6.0ph but will get that down to the recommended 5.5-5.8 (will have to use my ph strips for that as my pippette kit only reads down to 6.0!!!! I will then just leave the nutes out for 2-3 days and see what the leave do. PPM in the 2 day old bucket of water is 360. Evian that I used the other day was 250ppm.
Once again thanks all the advice, I'm sure it would of gone tits up now without your help..
Checked the res this morning and ppm was 760, so added some ph6.0 water. Since I lowered the ppm the lower leaves look like there lowering. The top leaves a you can see are still reaching sky high. So the problem is definately too much nute or lockout problem. The soil grow is causeing no problems. Would it be a good idea to move to a larger pot? Or a its an auto flower strain is the current pot ok. If I transfer to a larger pot and shock the plant, by the time it recovers it will probably be time to harvest. Currently have no problems with temps and humidity.
Danielsgb
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I'd up-can it. I get almost no transplant shock when I up-can. You still have a long time to harvest. Just water it day before, get the new pot ready using the same size pot its in now and water it day before. I think people see a transplant shock from sticking the roots into dry soil. Soil needs to evenly absorb water before you do it. If that was confusing I'll get a pic to show how I do it.
Daniels
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I know earlier in this thread I said I was worried about the hydro being stunted compared with the soil plant. But dam look at the difference now! That has practically happened overnight. Daniels, what is up-can? Sounds like you re-pot the plant in a pot the same size!!!!!! I changed the water this morning as the ppm was 650. I got the ph in the buckets of water down to around 5.5-6.0 and ppm was 350-360. Cleaned out the res of the milky dried deposits on the side of the res and also washed out the hydrokorrell dust (this stuff is never ending!! lol). Will now leave it a couple of days and see how the leave react. Will check the ph and ppm 2-3 times a day.
gumball
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up-can is transplant. he takes a larger pot and fills the bottom with a little dirt. he then takes the pot the plant is in and sets it in the larger pot, and fills dirt all around the little pot, filling the larger pot. this makes a perfect size hole for the rootball of the plant you are attempting to transplant.
Up-canned the soil plant earlier. I watered with nutes last night just with tomorite. I then watered the new soil and then placed the plant in the whole in the 11 litre pot. I just hope I haven't shocked her, and I hope she grows bigger now. Although I doubt it will catch up with the hydro now. I think with hydro, the plant doesn't do much in the early stages as its putting its effort into the roots and not plant growth. Once the roots are bathed in the res, then just watch the thing take off. She has still got leaves sticking up in the air, but the branches are not as red/purple as they were.
I will leave it to carry on now, as it doesn't look like she has any problems with dis-coloured leaves etc. Will just see what happens.
Will take pics soon as camera is missing!!!
I will leave it to carry on now, as it doesn't look like she has any problems with dis-coloured leaves etc. Will just see what happens.
Will take pics soon as camera is missing!!!
gumball
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Your inbox is full jayme!
Here's the reply though
That is something you could do. The roots probably will tangle in the rez though. The only time that is a problem is if one plant has an issue it could spread to both or all. I think if the plants are healthy and you don't try to over grow them so the roots stay fairly small you will be ok. I say to try it because you are dissatisfied with the size and only being able to grow one plant from it. If it works you can refine it. If not you know the flow grow will be a good vegetable garden!
Here's the reply though
That is something you could do. The roots probably will tangle in the rez though. The only time that is a problem is if one plant has an issue it could spread to both or all. I think if the plants are healthy and you don't try to over grow them so the roots stay fairly small you will be ok. I say to try it because you are dissatisfied with the size and only being able to grow one plant from it. If it works you can refine it. If not you know the flow grow will be a good vegetable garden!
Well what can i say. The hydro plant is now 12" tall and the soil is 8.5". I've topped up the res with about 7 litres of water and ppm was about 330, and ph of 6.0. I then added 5ml of Ionic hydro bloom and about 3ml of Ionic hydro boost. PPM went up to 420. So will keep an eye on the ppm tomorrow and as its getting on a bit (well i auto strain it is, i guess) I may add a bit here and there. The soil plant was just watered with just plain 6.0ph water.
kayapt2008
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mate if ya p.h is 7 . any thing dont go to bed get some water in the reseviour it will level its self out if you dont have room pump out a little 5.6
Yes gumball, to say am I surprised is an understatement. Considering its an auto with a limited lifespan, its awesome. Good growth, thick stem, branches etc. Can't wait to harvest it, then get the divider in the pot and then do two side by side. I was thinking of one day expanding to a 10 pot Atami Wilma. They come with 6.5 litre pots. So if I split my flo grow with a divider, the pot at the top with the pebbles, would still be bigger than 6.5 litres. So it may work. Just can't bloody wait mate to be honest. Hope all is well your end.
Hi Jon, I thought you sprayed the plants for the duration of the grow. I take it you do it when there young? Regarding using the boost after week 3 of flowering, as its an auto strain I should be harvesting then. I also didn't put that much in of the boost and bloom. It says 5ml per litre (85ml) of bloom and 1ml per litre of boost (17ml). I only added 10ml of bloom and 6ml of boost to see how the plant reacted. Now for the bad news!!!!!!!
Its official I am a twat.... I checked the plant yesterday but made a big mistake the day before. When I checked it and done the usual ph/ppm checks, I turned the fan off and adjusted the light accordingly. I forgot to turn the fan back on! When I got in the followiing day and checked the plant, it had grown two inchs in height and was touching the bulb and as you can see it has burnt the top bud. Its not too bad, and maybe it will recover or if not I can still harvet the rest of plant. However the soil plant is now so far behind the bulb is quite a way from the plant itself and I can't position the plant anywhere alse as its now in an 11 litre pot. Maybe its still establishing itself in its new home and has been shocked. Will just have to see what happens.
Hope everyone elses grows are going fine, and remember keep your fan on. lol
Its official I am a twat.... I checked the plant yesterday but made a big mistake the day before. When I checked it and done the usual ph/ppm checks, I turned the fan off and adjusted the light accordingly. I forgot to turn the fan back on! When I got in the followiing day and checked the plant, it had grown two inchs in height and was touching the bulb and as you can see it has burnt the top bud. Its not too bad, and maybe it will recover or if not I can still harvet the rest of plant. However the soil plant is now so far behind the bulb is quite a way from the plant itself and I can't position the plant anywhere alse as its now in an 11 litre pot. Maybe its still establishing itself in its new home and has been shocked. Will just have to see what happens.
Hope everyone elses grows are going fine, and remember keep your fan on. lol
gumball
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could you center the light above the flo gro and the soil pot? i realize you would have to move both of the pots to get them both center under the light. dont know what type of fixture you have, but maybe you could hang the bulb vertically instead of horizontally. that would put the light closer to both plants. but you would ave to rotate them more frequently to get light to all sides of both plants. just some options to get you through this grow. maybe next grow you can pick up a 2nd bulb for better coverage