Auto berry grow thread. 2nd grow. 1st in a grow tent!!!
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Pics of my home made dry box. Have got to work out how to hang the buds in there as its only about 7-8" deep. Tomorrow I will be changing the water in the flo grow. Considering there is only a day between the two in age, the soil plant is definately taking off. The ppm is 460 in the flo grow. The water I have had sitting out is currently 360 ppm. As I added a few days ago 2.5ml of nitrozyme and its now 460 ppm, I will change the water but am not sure how much nitrozyme and what to raie the ppm to? Am thinking, as long a the ph is 6.0 ish give or take 0.5 either way, I may go for 650 to 750 unless has any recommendations...
Cheers all J
Cheers all J
jondamon
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Jayme
If you have no purple stems or yellowing of the leaves then leave your ppm as it is.
If you experience Purple stems on any branches then this is usually the first sign of N def.
Your Flo Grow plant looks fine with the PPM dont change unless something is wrong.
Remember less is more.
(if you kept your inbox clear i would have replied to your message with the same answer)
J
If you have no purple stems or yellowing of the leaves then leave your ppm as it is.
If you experience Purple stems on any branches then this is usually the first sign of N def.
Your Flo Grow plant looks fine with the PPM dont change unless something is wrong.
Remember less is more.
(if you kept your inbox clear i would have replied to your message with the same answer)
J
Funny you mention that jon. Just had a clear out. Gotta admit im a nightmare for my inbox!!
The reason I said I wanted to raise ppm was that its 460 at the moment and I thought the hydro set up was meant to grow a plant much quicker and better quality than soil. But my soil plant is romping away!!! I was gonna add nitrozyme till ppm was 650 to 750. But you think its not a wise move? I was just thinking, as its not growing like the soil plant adding some nutes to improve growth, I read on here that slowly increasing the ppm weekly till flowering is what is done. Just cant understand why a plant would not want nutes to grow bigger and stronger. So I should wait till the yellowing of leaves or stem going purple till I add nutes.
I suppose this is where the learning curve starts!!!
The reason I said I wanted to raise ppm was that its 460 at the moment and I thought the hydro set up was meant to grow a plant much quicker and better quality than soil. But my soil plant is romping away!!! I was gonna add nitrozyme till ppm was 650 to 750. But you think its not a wise move? I was just thinking, as its not growing like the soil plant adding some nutes to improve growth, I read on here that slowly increasing the ppm weekly till flowering is what is done. Just cant understand why a plant would not want nutes to grow bigger and stronger. So I should wait till the yellowing of leaves or stem going purple till I add nutes.
I suppose this is where the learning curve starts!!!
jondamon
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It could be because your dripper ring is too far away from the roots at the minute due to its size.
Personally i would have started in a small 1x1 Rockwool cube hand watering then moved to a 3x3 still hand watering then when the Roots started showing out of the 3x3 i would have put it into the flo grow.
LIke i said if you arent getting any deficiencies then dont play around with it.
Most common mistake most make is to up the feed before they need to!
I currently have some purple stems on my PPP mother but im not freaking out im just increasing EC by a few tengths each week until the purpleness goes away. I could have up'd the feed by a massive amount but then could have burnt the plant.
Currently she is having an EC1.0 of COCO GROW feed which is around 650ppm
Check the pic below. See the difference in the 2. Different strains.
The smaller one is only running with an EC0.8 where as the other is 1.0 but they were both started on the same day sprouted at the same time same medium same nutes other than strength same lighting etc etc.
But 2 completely different performances in growth.
Even the same strain can have differences in growth due to phenotypes.
J
Personally i would have started in a small 1x1 Rockwool cube hand watering then moved to a 3x3 still hand watering then when the Roots started showing out of the 3x3 i would have put it into the flo grow.
LIke i said if you arent getting any deficiencies then dont play around with it.
Most common mistake most make is to up the feed before they need to!
I currently have some purple stems on my PPP mother but im not freaking out im just increasing EC by a few tengths each week until the purpleness goes away. I could have up'd the feed by a massive amount but then could have burnt the plant.
Currently she is having an EC1.0 of COCO GROW feed which is around 650ppm
Check the pic below. See the difference in the 2. Different strains.
The smaller one is only running with an EC0.8 where as the other is 1.0 but they were both started on the same day sprouted at the same time same medium same nutes other than strength same lighting etc etc.
But 2 completely different performances in growth.
Even the same strain can have differences in growth due to phenotypes.
J
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bloody hell, there is a difference in the two. so im panicking for nothing. I did think about maybe getting a smaller tube to fit on to the water dripper but i have checked the resevoir and the roots are already comin out of the bottom of the pot and dipping in the resevoir itself. If i do hand water the plant, wont the soil cube i used retain water and i may overwater. I did read on here, someone saying that i a hydro set up the roots at the top need very little water, the roots half way down need enough that will be provided by the watering system, ad the bottom roots need to be constantly bathed in water. A bit like in nature I supose when the plants are in the ground, the roots go right down in the soil where its most moist. Do you think your smaller plant of the two will catch up?
jondamon
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hey jayme
to be honest it wont really matter if it catches up or not as i plan to TOP them both at the 2nd true node to develop 4 main shoots to clone from these 4.
i shall be keeping 2 1st cut clones from each to grow on as my main mothers giving me 4 mothers i can use.
once the 2 in the pics have either outgrown the box or had their day i'll just flower them.
i do also plan on trying to root the tops that i take off when i TOP them both .
J
to be honest it wont really matter if it catches up or not as i plan to TOP them both at the 2nd true node to develop 4 main shoots to clone from these 4.
i shall be keeping 2 1st cut clones from each to grow on as my main mothers giving me 4 mothers i can use.
once the 2 in the pics have either outgrown the box or had their day i'll just flower them.
i do also plan on trying to root the tops that i take off when i TOP them both .
J
Well I changed the water last night. Ph is still 6.0 ish ( i say ish cos i am using ph strips and not a digital ph meter yet). Previously I added about 2ml of Nitrozyme and ppm was about 360. This time I added 2.5ml of Nitrozyme and ppm is now 460. When changing the water I did notice there is more roots going into the main resevoir, so the mix must be right. No pics, as mrs has camera again. Will upload pics soon though.