Atheism

krustofskie

krustofskie

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Here is a great video (imao) to show any theist that puts forth an argument against atheists. If the question they pose is in it, they need a new question as I think this clip debunks all theists arguments to my satisfaction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeWpHpl9u-g

It would be great if someone imbed's this clip as I'm an idiot who has failed every time I have tried so I just don't bother anymore.
 
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Red Icarus

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i'm atheist and agnostic. i dont know if a god or gods exist and i couldnt care less.. i live by a strict moral code which includes pacifism. my decisions are governed by reason and morals. i tend to put others first before myself which causes some problems but i dont think i could live any other way. i just cant stand the idea that people seem to have that atheist/agnostic people are a bunch of amoral savages who would slit your throat for fun.
 
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PadawanBater

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krustofskie said:
Here is a great video (imao) to show any theist that puts forth an argument against atheists. If the question they pose is in it, they need a new question as I think this clip debunks all theists arguments to my satisfaction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeWpHpl9u-g

It would be great if someone imbed's this clip as I'm an idiot who has failed every time I have tried so I just don't bother anymore.
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Katatawnic

Katatawnic

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PadawanBater said:
You said he's a soap star? lol that's kinda funny

I've always wondered about his background, got any insight into that?

He's just extremely smart and articulate, really good at explaining things clearly.
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Well, it appears he was raised with an abundance of love, respect, and intellectual stimulation. I'd say he "just lucked out" with quick wits and a very good upbringing... how all kids should be raised but probably only a small fraction do.

Yeah, he was on General Hospital for 4 or 5 years. Now he's now on One Life to Live; I almost started watching the damn show just to "support my friend" but quickly came to my senses... I don't need to get back into a daily TV show I've not watched in over 15 yrs. to be a friend to my friend. :lol:
 
Woodstock.Hippie

Woodstock.Hippie

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Katatawnic said:

how all kids should be raised but probably only a small fraction do. :lol:
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One of the bright bubbles we tend with daydreams is what IT would look like if human potential were to be maximized in all potential aspects, beginning with identifying processes determining what we are best to be.

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What if IT evolved and flowed up the stairs to the wooden floor of RIU?
Definition

Among the competing understandings of what unites the various currents designated by "Esotericism" in the scholarly sense, perhaps the most influential has been proposed by Antoine Faivre. His definition is based on the presence in these currents of four essential traits: a theory of correspondences, the conviction that nature is a living entity, the need for mediating elements (such as symbols or visions) in order to access spiritual knowledge, and a sense of personal transmutation when arriving at this knowledge. To this are added two less crucial traits. Esotericism sometimes suggests an additional element of initiation. Finally, esotericists frequently suggest that there is a concordance between different religious traditions. It should, however, be emphasized that Faivre's definition is one of several divergent understandings of the most appropriate use of the term.
:peace:
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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Friends and family have been joining a group looking for a missing person.
So far people are clamoring for other people to pray, and some vile asshole claimed he was a paranormal detective and would use his "sensitives" to try and find her.

Snake oil, the bunch of them.

So I felt like getting a little creative:

 
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PadawanBater

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Guys, I actually sat through a 10 minute prayer this morning! Went to church and everything! Holy shit do I have even more hatred for organized religion!

This motherfucker was sitting there preaching about how Christianity is right and everything else is wrong because the holy spirit is in them (Christians). The circle jerk mindfuck of unbelievably bad reasoning was astounding!

The guy brought up how submarines need huge metal hulls to be able to take the pressure 2 miles below in the Mariana Trench (lmfao!) but that there are also fish down there that don't need hulls like subs have, and that Christians are like that, and so demons can't possess Christians, because the spirit of Jesus that's within them is stronger than any demon spirit trying to influence them!

OMFG I was mad when I left this morning!

Great pic Morgen, fuck prayer, and the stupid retards who practice it. Doing NOTHING is actually better, at least you're not wasting your fuckin' time.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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PadawanBater said:
Guys, I actually sat through a 10 minute prayer this morning! Went to church and everything! Holy shit do I have even more hatred for organized religion!

This motherfucker was sitting there preaching about how Christianity is right and everything else is wrong because the holy spirit is in them (Christians). The circle jerk mindfuck of unbelievably bad reasoning was astounding!

The guy brought up how submarines need huge metal hulls to be able to take the pressure 2 miles below in the Mariana Trench (lmfao!) but that there are also fish down there that don't need hulls like subs have, and that Christians are like that, and so demons can't possess Christians, because the spirit of Jesus that's within them is stronger than any demon spirit trying to influence them!

OMFG I was mad when I left this morning!

Great pic Morgen, fuck prayer, and the stupid retards who practice it. Doing NOTHING is actually better, at least you're not wasting your fuckin' time.
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Oh, most certainly, once the doors close and the flock is alone..... the things said get so ridiculous. The preacher knows they'll believe just about anything.
 
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PadawanBater

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CrackerJax said:
Oh, most certainly, once the doors close and the flock is alone..... the things said get so ridiculous. The preacher knows they'll believe just about anything.
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This was one of those smaller churches. When I went there were about 40 people inside.

I could tell the pastor actually believed the stuff he was saying, and I talk to a couple people who go to this church on a regular basis, and they all seem to believe in pretty much the same way he does.

I've sat down and spoke with em about this stuff a couple times, it's pretty enjoyable because the friendship thing comes before the atheist/believer feud.

What I think it is is that they've been around this stuff for so long, literally their whole lives, to see anything else. It's the indoctrination. They don't know any other way, so they can't see how morality can exist without a God to set what's right and wrong for everyone (which the asshat touched on).

They're smart people in a lot of other categories.. The conclusion I always reach is it's a mix between the indoctrination and the fear of death, non existence. Some people are not ready to accept the fate at the end of the rainbow, it's too much for them.

For me, I never gave a fuck about any of that. My reasoning was pretty much "well, lets get to the bottom of this shit, if there's no hell to fear, what's the point of fearing it? If a god is going to punish me for questioning how I got here and what I'm doing here, I would NEVER worship that god, even if it was real, even if I could prove it, and even if I would spend eternity in the hell that I knew existed as well." That one bit took me from mediocre believer (like 90% of all believers are) to full blown atheist in a matter of 2 years.

And I couldn't be happier about it.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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That Pastor is a human being and is susceptible to positive reinforcement, just like everyone else. :wink:

Years ago, my wife and I were asked to be godparents to one of my nephews and since they were Catholic, I had to be approved by the church. My relatives were not local so my wife and I went down to a local catholic church where they had a 1st generation Irish Pastor. As soon as I heard his thick accent, I smelled trouble....:lol:

Well he finally gets our message and takes us back into his office where there also happens to be a Mexican couple with their young children. The Pastor starts to question me and he asks me if I am a practicing Catholic, and I of course respond no.

Long story short, he starts to inquire about why I don't believe and I start in about the origin of the Bible, and who were the apostles really. Then I looked over at the Mexican couple who at that point stop talking amongst themselves and were beginning to listen.... I just looked at the Pastor and asked him if he really wanted me to continue. Heh...he just puffed on his pipe and signed the papers ... and that was that.

Don't want to spook the herd!!
 
upnorth2505

upnorth2505

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MexicanWarlord420 said:
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That is about a coolest picture I have seen in a while! LOL.

I can understand why someone would be a atheist. Christian, muslim, hindu, animist, budist, jew. They can't all be right. Right?

My faith is none of the above. But I do not give up. No, I definately believe in a greater force, a creator, a collective mind/power. A cosmic force that for now is impossible to comprehend. We may never know. For now it is just a mystery of life. :peace:
 
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