AG Garland appoints special counsel

UncleJesse

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Fogdog said:
I get the sense that he's just repeating what he heard on some right wing radio show. He clearly doesn't know much about either case.
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You could be right. I will ask this, since i am not there. Would a presidents personal residence be more secure than a vice presidents personal residence? Would a presidents personal residence be more secure than a closet in the Penn Biden center? As you said, I am only going by what I see and i do watch both sides coverage. That said, my point was that Joe Biden has created the situation that will make it almost impossible for them to charge Trump for having any documents. As well, I think Biden will just say, as Trump did, I declassified them. Not positive but I thought I read Obama made it so the VP could declare documents declassified. Maybe the guy will use the Trump statement. If not, the fact is he was out of office and had classified documents in several places, and as far as I can tell, that is a no no.
 
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UncleJesse said:
You could be right. I will ask this, since i am not there. Would a presidents personal residence be more secure than a vice presidents personal residence? Would a presidents personal residence be more secure than a closet in the Penn Biden center? As you said, I am only going by what I see and i do watch both sides coverage. That said, my point was that Joe Biden has created the situation that will make it almost impossible for them to charge Trump for having any documents. As well, I think Biden will just say, as Trump did, I declassified them. Not positive but I thought I read Obama made it so the VP could declare documents declassified. Maybe the guy will use the Trump statement. If not, the fact is he was out of office and had classified documents in several places, and as far as I can tell, that is a no no.
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I don't know how those documents ended up in Biden's garage so how can I say he effed up? Very little information is available regarding Biden's situation and the DOJ rarely communicates what it has found until AFTER it completes an investigation. This gives time for blowhards to say whatever they want but that doesn't make them worth reading. (looking at you)

What I do know is Biden's actions on this matter after the documents were found were completely different than Trump's. I have read that Biden faces no legal actions on this matter because of those actions. However, an investigation has been launched and we will not be privy to most of what they find until after the investigation is complete. Trump, on the other hand, lied, stonewalled and obstructed NARA in its efforts to retrieve government records. After his residence was raided, Trump came out and told his story to the media about the situation. Unsurprisingly, Trump lied when he gave his side of the story and the government came forward to set the record straight. Otherwise, we would be in the dark on that matter too. The raid to recover Government Classified Information was precipitated by video images showing his aides removing documents from the storehouse that was near the pool -- AFTER -- they agreed they would not do so. So, no. There is no comparison in the two cases. Most of the trouble Trump faces is due to his own acts of obstruction and perjury and not the simple act of bringing the records to Mar a Lago.
 
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cannabineer

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UncleJesse said:
You could be right. I will ask this, since i am not there. Would a presidents personal residence be more secure than a vice presidents personal residence? Would a presidents personal residence be more secure than a closet in the Penn Biden center? As you said, I am only going by what I see and i do watch both sides coverage. That said, my point was that Joe Biden has created the situation that will make it almost impossible for them to charge Trump for having any documents. As well, I think Biden will just say, as Trump did, I declassified them. Not positive but I thought I read Obama made it so the VP could declare documents declassified. Maybe the guy will use the Trump statement. If not, the fact is he was out of office and had classified documents in several places, and as far as I can tell, that is a no no.
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It depends markedly on who “a president” is, or more accurately “a former president”. Or yet more accurately “a former presidential imposter”.

The President is very unlikely to engage in the chicanery of unilaterally declaring stuff declassified. That is the trademark and manner of someone who had and has contempt for the institution.
 
CANON_Grow

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UncleJesse said:
You could be right. I will ask this, since i am not there. Would a presidents personal residence be more secure than a vice presidents personal residence? Would a presidents personal residence be more secure than a closet in the Penn Biden center? As you said, I am only going by what I see and i do watch both sides coverage. That said, my point was that Joe Biden has created the situation that will make it almost impossible for them to charge Trump for having any documents. As well, I think Biden will just say, as Trump did, I declassified them. Not positive but I thought I read Obama made it so the VP could declare documents declassified. Maybe the guy will use the Trump statement. If not, the fact is he was out of office and had classified documents in several places, and as far as I can tell, that is a no no.
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tRump is not President anymore, so your question would be is a MAGA country club more secure? We could take a poll, but personally don't think one is needed to know the answer.

Joe Biden has not made it impossible for them to charge tRump for having the documents. tRump broke the law because of his intent, not because he has the documents. If tRump simply gave back the documents when it was brought up, he wouldn't be in the legal jeopardy he is in now. We don't yet know if Joe Biden's situation involves criminal intent. To ignore that difference indicates who is attempting partisan spin.
 
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Glenn thinks Donald is getting indicted soon.


Donald Trump's desperate, unhinged social media posts make clear - he KNOWS indictments are coming!

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Day-after-day, and sometimes hour-after-hour, Donald Trump has been posting unhinged, desperate rants on his third-rate social media platform, lashing out at the Department of Justice, the FBI, prosecutors, Democrats AND Republicans. Of course, given the relatively few people that subscribe to his platform, he is both figuratively AND literally screaming into the void. This video reviews some of Trump's recent posts, which strongly suggest that Trump knows indictments are coming and he know he is powerless to stop them.
 
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A VERY DESPERATE Trump Spews NEW Bizarre Threats against Jack Smith

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Donald Trump appears weaker and more desperate than ever with new posts attacking Jack Smith. MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports.
 
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How much time could Mark Meadows get off from multiple life sentences for the clean cut heads of a half a dozen republican senators who were in on the J6 conspiracy, along with a dozen congress people? Maybe a few administration people too, because Donald will be doing time over the documents and nobody will offer a deal for the kingpin, but will get it as a bonus.

Donald is freaking out bigly about the documents and making not just conviction easier, but getting himself held in custody upon indictment and plea. It would be nice, but Donald would be more use out on the loose and on bail, ripping the guts out of the GOP while panicking in desperation about his up coming trial, pulling every lever and squeezing every ball he can he can find! :lol: I wonder if Jack is just waiting for the debt ceiling to be settled to bust Trump, because the shit will hit the fan when he does!

KEVIN OWES DONALD, or at least Donald thinks so.
 
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Ron looks very worried indeed! Ron knows what he did and so does Jack, Mark probably knows too.


'Dumb': GOP's Ron Johnson humiliated over nonsensical coup claim

6,886 views Jan 17, 2023 #Trump #GOP #RonJohnson
Republican Senator Ron Johnson is under heat again for his documented role in a potential coup plot. the effort to use elector fraud to overthrow the 2020 election. In a new "Meet The Press" interview, Johnson was confronted and now says he was acting as a special courier between the President and the Vice President on January 6th. MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent, Ari Melber reports on the receipts and facts from The January 6th Committee and the direct link from Johnson's office to the plot.
 
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Trump is in FULL PANIC Mode over Jack Smith Investigation

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MeidasTouch reporter Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s desperation and weakness as seen in his most recent post about Special Counsel Jack Smith.
 
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Trump BEGS Jack Smith to Stop Investigating Him

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Donald Trump posted a statement pleading with Jack Smith to stop investigating him. MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports.
 
Hotrod2

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cannabineer said:
and I disagree with the implied social Darwinism, red in tooth and claw.

But at a more profound level I think that allowing the monied class to build its pleasure-dome without regulation or limit … is an inherently unsustainable situation. It will crash, bringing into being a loss of culture and a spike in human suffering so complete as to make the fall of Rome and the following brutal millennium shrink to the scale of a school-play rehearsal. I do not want my grandchildren to inherit a Road Warrior wasteland or the planet of the apes (original Heston version). Libertarians, in their failure to run the logic to its savage conclusion, are putting global civilization at grave risk. Thus I oppose them and their credo.
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Hotrod2

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CunningCanuk said:
It looks like you know as much about China, North Korea, Russia and Canada as you do about your own country.

That’s what happens when you skip civics classes in school.
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They are all countries that limit the freedoms of the people the government represents. Now every human
still maintains the same rights that we all should. The government restricts the freedom of them to exercise those rights.
In every country I mentioned the right to bear arms and the right to free speech are both severely limited.

In the United States we see the right to free speech being limited by the federal government. We also see people trying to take away our Second Amendment rights. Nobody here or at least the majority , want to be like Canada , Russia, China , North Korea or Iran. There are too many other countries to mention.
 
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