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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    Yes not nearly as dense. The plants that died off were so dense I could not see threw them. Not the growth I need in my set up so I have to stretch them out before flower. But the LEDs give them a dense root mass faster than my other lights and that gives me a great plant to flower after...
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    I should also mention that the T5HO bulbs are 4 HTG Pure Par Veg bulbs and 4 HTG 5400k AgroMax bulbs. The LEDs are Cree CXB3590 3500K cobs.
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    Clearly the T5 could not get threw the dense growth of the LED. This caused the leaves to die off below. Please post up some pictures of your growth under the T5 for a 3 to 3.5 foot tall plant.
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    Here are 2 pictures of the same plant. It was switched from LED to T5. The picture of the bottom shows LED growth and the picture of the top shows T5 growth. It is the same lights as I have been talking about. The big difference to keep in mind is that the T5 is less than a foot from the top...
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    No it was the T5. The LEDs grow some much fuller than a T5 that the T5 could not penetrate it.
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    I dont have a tape right now to measure. But they are about 3.5 feet including the pot which is a 2 gallon pot. But they have grown since then so I would guess they were a bout 3 feet tall including pot at the time the bottom leaves died off. This is best guess because I did not measure them...
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    I would like to make clear my point on the taxes and this will be the last I post on this. Hillery has a multi billion dollar foundation that her husband uses to fund his trips all over. Hillery made millions of of speeches to Wall Street. None of this would be possible with out her being in...
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    Abiqua what is the date of this?
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    False no but with you just dismissing it out of hand and attacking me I dont see how you will ever know the truth. For those who did not read the article in it he basically stated that the difference in income between the wealthy and the poor went up in the 20s and down in the 30s. The...
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    Wow that article is so full of holes. Starting with the 20s and going forward. In the 20s the unemployment went down below 4% but in the 30s it was well over 20%. What a big difference increased taxes had. And the fact that the dems never lower taxes on the middle class but somehow raise...
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    You would be surprised at the crap that is not reported that goes on over there. My brother in law was there. It is one fucked up shit hole.
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    LED's are bad for your health...

    Yes but how do you explain the fact that everyone who died had blood in them at some point? There must be some connection between blood and death. Till we figure out how the blood is causing death we need to go back to blood letting to stop this.
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    Yup my mistake not cfl but T5HO 4 foot lights. And I moved plants in a 5x7 room with 400 watts of LED cobs to a 2x4 rack with 432 watts of T5HO bulbs. The bottom 8 to 10 inches of the plants leve died because of lack of penetration from the T5HO bilbs. Clearly the LEDs kick the shit out of...
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    I had some plants under my LED lights. They were very nice looking with good growth up and down the plant. I had them in a room that was 5x7 with 400 watts of LED. I moved three of them out because they were much larger than the other plants and were starting to crowd them out. I placed...
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    GreenGenes Garden

    Yeah that.
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    Have any of you DIY COB Growers finished a crop under 1000W DE HPS? - POLL

    I use my ladies to pay the bills. When I completely switch over to leds then they wont have to stand under that street light for 12 or more hours a day with no time off. Well till they get fat and stinky, then they have to go. And in come the new more petite ladies.
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    Best commercial LED/COB is ?

    I still have not figured out how to get a AT600 in a 2x4 tent. But a light bar can. More info on what the light will be used for would elliminate one of these or none of these lights.
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    Have any of you DIY COB Growers finished a crop under 1000W DE HPS? - POLL

    You should see how bad they treat my ladies as well.
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    Have any of you DIY COB Growers finished a crop under 1000W DE HPS? - POLL

    Well dont let HUD know but those kind will be evicted. Yes it is because of their color and how they make the area look.
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    whats up with cree (corporate)?

    I stand by that.
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