Wow

[Finshaggy]

And Imhotep, I bet no one here can say they've honestly heard of him. Yet, they have heard of De Vinci, Aristotle and plenty of others.

 

[Finshaggy]

I think the world could still be drawn into lines of Espania (The Catholic Church), Rome (Western Civilization), Africa (Egypt/Carthage) & Asia (India, China etc. the East). Politics is a distraction, but we created it ourselves by wanting to know what is on the other side of the world, but at the same time trying to shape yourself into something the other side of the world will recognize. And that's when it became distraction instead of construction.

 

[Finshaggy]

I think we should eventually just consider ourselves "Earth", and bring in other species to the political and social system. Not necessarily in that order.

 

[MojoRison]

This is one part of history we are not exposed to (at least as children) in America, and probably many other countries. So to be amazed at my amazement in someone we were never even told about in school, while we spent an entire YEAR on US history, is rediculous. They couldn't mention Hannibal? We've all at least HEARD of Alexander the Great. Not saying Hannibal should be considered US history, I'm saying a year on US history is not interesting, while any amount of talking about Hannibal would have been interesting.

I know what you mean, the curriculum of most school systems lack any in depth study of world history, sure there may be a week or two set aside for discussion but it rarely gets more attention until later in college/university when one chooses to study it purposely. Schools are tools IMO, they aid you in the quest for knowledge, they are a basic tool at the beginning, providing just what is necessary for you to survive and adapt. It is only when you decide "what" to study does the school/s true form takes shape.

 

[Finshaggy]

Hannibal sent rings back to the kings of his nation, and they recorded how many men he killed based on that. Because each nobleman had a ring and controlled X amount of men, and they just knew what X was. Lol

 

[Finshaggy]

I know what you mean, the curriculum of most school systems lack any in depth study of world history, sure there may be a week or two set aside for discussion but it rarely gets more attention until later in college/university when one chooses to study it purposely. Schools are tools IMO, they aid you in the quest for knowledge, they are a basic tool at the beginning, providing just what is necessary for you to survive and adapt. It is only when you decide "what" to study does the school/s true form takes shape.

I think schools need to become more involved with each other, and letting kids use the tools they already walk in the door with (cell phone, etc) this is the age of the Internet, the fact that I never once had a webcam discussion with another classroom in another country, or shared a project with a class in another state kinda like disgusts me. Why aren't we doing that yet, education should start in the streets and at government buildings, and grow into class groups, instead of randomly throwing people into classes based on age.

 

[Finshaggy]

Fin, history is full of fascinating individuals and to see you {or anyone for that matter} take such an interest in our shared past is good.
It is one thing to read about history, yet to walk away with nothing but amazement some how belittles the lives it cost to make such idols, for every Alexander and Khan there are countless slain, for every flag unfurled there is blood spilled.
History is a lesson and one that all should learn from, IMO

I have often wondered how it is that every man loves himself more than all the rest of men, but yet sets less value on his own opinions of himself than on the opinions of others.
Marcus Aurelius

Plus, Hannibal is noted for caring about his soldiers, ie: the Gisgo quote. I know I'm talking about specific people that were in charge of the projects, but I have mentioned their relatives and subordinates, but as I said before, there is not a lot of in depth records of Hannibal, let alone each individual that served under him.

 

[MojoRison]

Not to trivialize your response Fin but my guess would something we call, Teen Angst. With the mass overload of useless and often incorrect information that is being sent around the web, it's hard to find the information that will give you the right answer. It's true that the internet is a invaluable key for today's youth and their studies but if you're unable to comprehend that information and use it properly then what good is it to have the world at your beck and call so to speak.

I asked my nephew who studies at one of the local universities, where he gets his information when studying, he replied "google, it's a great help", then I said "Oh so you use google scholar then, cool so do I"...he looked at me as if I had three heads.
He wasn't even aware it existed.

 

[Finshaggy]

Not to trivialize your response Fin but my guess would something we call, Teen Angst. With the mass overload of useless and often incorrect information that is being sent around the web, it's hard to find the information that will give you the right answer. It's true that the internet is a invaluable key for today's youth and their studies but if you're unable to comprehend that information and use it properly then what good is it to have the world at your beck and call so to speak.

I asked my nephew who studies at one of the local universities, where he gets his information when studying, he replied "google, it's a great help", then I said "Oh so you use google scholar then, cool so do I"...he looked at me as if I had three heads.
He wasn't even aware it existed.

That's just because Google is fine, and sometimes (usually I have seen it when doing RC searches) Google incorporates google scholar. Why would you make such a distinction? I still think classrooms need to connect, what I said had nothing to do with kids learning from google. But google is fine when you know what it is you're looking for.

 

[Finshaggy]

Again, everyone should read about Hannibal and Imhotep.

 

[MojoRison]

I was making the connection between internet usage as a study tool and the typical teenager, using google as a term linking the two. Teenagers are ruled by peer pressure and if you're not using what ever the Jone's are using, then you're just not with it, cool, hip etc. Most aren't inclined to search for alternative ways in fear of being shunned, unless of course you're speaking of substances, then most are more then willing to seek alternatives .

 

[Finshaggy]

If left to its own devices, instead of being based on how old you are, peer pressure would focus on ability & wisdom. If you wanted to know about drugs and decide to go learn about it and try them, you should be allowed to, under supervision of those that have proven their ability or wisdom in the community. And that's how ALL classes should work, and kids would choose to study our past if they were actually taught about every part of it. And, Hannibal wasn't the first man from his area to do what he did. Look up "The Grimaldi Man". Like 20,000 years ago Africans brought fire to the cavemen, and the symbol of the dragon, which Asia has heavily adopted.

 

[Finshaggy]

Look up "The Grimaldi Man". Like 20,000 years ago Africans brought fire to the cavemen, and the symbol of the dragon, which Asia has heavily adopted.

I think this should be separated. Everyone should look up the Grimaldi man, VERY little is known about them.

 

[MojoRison]

I can see your point, but I believe the amount of knowledge man has acquired over time is too vast for one individual to take in. As for now it seems we will be educated based on geography.

 

[Finshaggy]

If you look at history, Africa lived intelligently and literately for 3000 years. And black people probably owned Europe before the White invasion.

 

[Finshaggy]

I can see your point, but I believe the amount of knowledge man has acquired over time is too vast for one individual to take in. As for now it seems we will be educated based on geography.

Maybe it's too much for one person, but learning it from a western perspective is really the worst way.

 

[Finshaggy]

White people were playing in caves. Black people came along and changed (or actually created everything IN) the world, then the white man (Caucus Mountain Albino, that's what white people are) waged war and made their own language, and basically wrote about everyone but themselves, and destroyed alternative cultures books.

 

[MojoRison]

Although "Lucy" was found to be from Africa, I don't think pigmentation had reached the point where you could call her black.
To the victor belong the spoils.

 

[Finshaggy]

Although "Lucy" was found to be from Africa, I don't think pigmentation had reached the point where you could call her black.
To the victor belong the spoils.

You're getting your history backwards, and Lucy has what anthropologists and archaeologists call "negroid" skulls, as well as the Grimaldi man, which has been dated as 20,000 years old (older than Lucy). And that's not me using a racist term, that just proves western perspective is inherently racist. The bible even tries to say, "everything has its own 'kind'." And in the early 1900's people took that into a racial perspective, then that became a religious perspective as well. Look at Mormons, they were started in the 1800's, and they changed their bible in like 1970 something because it was crazy racist. Mormon preachers used to be racist as well. Look up videos about Mormon racism on YouTube.

 

[Finshaggy]

The world was peaceful before the white man waged war. Egypt and everything, no mention of war. Then white people come along and history is almost nothing but war. Religion is like the only other thing that survived. Besides the stuff they scraped and used for themselves like math, astronomy and construction.