How did you come up with that?
Economy Is Improving
- Thread starter dukeanthony
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Im fairly sure only Americans are in the Ku Klux Klan but thanks for that
Why is this garbage relavent to this thread?
dukeanthony
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I guessed
I was off by 600 years
So they used it for 400 years
Much Longer than the 40 years one poster here claimed for "fiat" money
hazorazo
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Economists would say you are wrong. And they actually study this shit. Unlike the folks that don't give a damn what charts and graphs say. That may be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard. Don't take this the wrong way, are you Republican? Most people that disregard the experts' opinions seem to be Republicans these days.
No one CLAIMED anything, someone TOLD you that the AVERAGE lifespan of a Currency is 39 years, these are facts. The USA is on year 40. Someone in another thread claimed you were unable to read, I tend to agree.
Not only did you guess wrong, the Song Dynasty didn't have a Fiat currency, it was backed by metal. You do know what Fiat is?
dukeanthony
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Soon after the Mongol took over China and established Yuan (1264-136
dynasty, it followed the example of its predecessors, Tang, Song and Chin, in using paper currency. The first paper currency issued in Yuan dynasty was in 1260. Various denominations were printed, ranging from a face value of two standard coins to the highest denomination of two strings. Excessive printing year after year soon flooded the market with depreciated paper money until the face value of each certificate bore no relation whatsoever to its counterpart in silver. In 1272 a series of new issues was put in circulation and the old issues were converted into the new ones at the ratio of five to one. The new issues were printed with copper plates instead of wood blocks, as had been the case before. In 1309 another conversion became necessary. In fifty years from 1260 to 1309 Yuan's paper money was depreciated by 1000 percent. To make the situation worse, the government often refused to exchange for new issues old certificates that had been worn out through a long period of circulation.
Charlie Ventura
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Well, there are experts, and then again, there are "experts." Who are these economists you speak of? What are their political leanings?
And no, I am not a Republican. Nor am I a Democrat. I am a free market enthusiast. I am a business man who looks around the strip mall in which I do business and observe the vacant store fronts that surround me. I deal in foreclosed properties and short sales every day. I look at credit reports and try to find rental properties for people that have been ruined financially. I look at my food bill receipts and shake my head at the rising food costs. I fill my tank with gas at $4.09 per gallon.
With all due respect, my advise to you ... and yes, I know you didn't ask for it ... but if you want to know how the economy is doing, ask a businessman.
boneheadbob
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In my travels I have discovered that liberals tend to buy into what ever the feds and the mainstream media tell them. And conservatives know better then to believe anything anyone from the goverment or the media says. Liberals will swallow everything the democrat party sells especially if it concerns hate for those who disagree.
I dont follow the herd. I know that all of them, R and D included are predators and parasites who got where they are by being dishonest and decietful.
Vote them all out!!
I dont follow the herd. I know that all of them, R and D included are predators and parasites who got where they are by being dishonest and decietful.
Vote them all out!!
So then you freely admit you have no clue whatsoever what a "Fiat" currency is.Soon after the Mongol took over China and established Yuan (1264-136
12yrs+37years+49years/3=32 Less than average, but not even a fiat currency.
dukeanthony
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No one says you have to accept it
Work for whatever Form of Currency you think you need
Good luck buying stuff with used condoms though
Charlie Ventura
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Great post and amen!In my travels I have discovered that liberals tend to buy into what ever the feds and the mainstream media tell them. And conservatives know better then to believe anything anyone from the goverment or the media says. Liberals will swallow everything the democrat party sells especially if it concerns hate for those who disagree.
I dont follow the herd. I know that all of them, R and D included are predators and parasites who got where they are by being dishonest and decietful.
Vote them all out!!
hopeyougotadutch
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Agreed.
But the point is, it's something. I'd rather be doing something instead of nothing, wouldn't you? Not to mention how limited it is now, compared to what it could be.
hazorazo
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You suggest we ought to ask the most entrenched, biased people in the industry for an honest, objective, informed opinion? You are crazy. I am a businessman also, with a B.S. in Business Management. No one ever said the economy was GOOD right now, just improving, silly.Well, there are experts, and then again, there are "experts." Who are these economists you speak of? What are their political leanings?
And no, I am not a Republican. Nor am I a Democrat. I am a free market enthusiast. I am a business man who looks around the strip mall in which I do business and observe the vacant store fronts that surround me. I deal in foreclosed properties and short sales every day. I look at credit reports and try to find rental properties for people that have been ruined financially. I look at my food bill receipts and shake my head at the rising food costs. I fill my tank with gas at $4.09 per gallon.
With all due respect, my advise to you ... and yes, I know you didn't ask for it ... but if you want to know how the economy is doing, ask a businessman.
Are you attempting to cement your position as the leader of the intellectually destitute?
hazorazo
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I would have to disagree. Conservatives usually are religious zealots that intellectuals laugh at. You like to believe in the Bible, but you do not like to believe in Climatologists. You say you want liberty, but a large percentage of your HERD is actually against marijuana legalization (a much larger percentage against it than liberals). Conservatives constantly like to say they want to lower the deficit, but you fail to realize we have to raise taxes to do this. You want less government reach, but vote for more useless, time wasting legislation every day (pointing at illegal immigration reform, union and voting legislation, and taking away a woman's right to choose), still blind to your hypocrisy. You say you want jobs, but you fail to hold your elected officials from your party responsible when THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING TO CREATE JOBS. In fact, your party has done more to hurt the United States in the last 10 years than I care to remember.In my travels I have discovered that liberals tend to buy into what ever the feds and the mainstream media tell them. And conservatives know better then to believe anything anyone from the goverment or the media says. Liberals will swallow everything the democrat party sells especially if it concerns hate for those who disagree.
I dont follow the herd. I know that all of them, R and D included are predators and parasites who got where they are by being dishonest and decietful.
Vote them all out!!
Ultimately, conservatives really want to live their life the way they want to, but tell other people how to live theirs. Bigtime hypocrisy is threatening your future power, conservatives. With more informed citizens, your days are numbered as any sort of power.
Conservatives are especially burned that a black man is in office. And we all know this. But they hardly ever say these things in public. But I went to school in a verry conservative area, and I KNOW how you guys talk. Shame on you.
You do realize that Conservatives as a ideological group make up the greatest percent of the population don't you?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx
Surely you aren't saying that there are a minimum of 132 Million racists in America today are you?
dukeanthony
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If you think our money is worthless
Get a job that doesnt pay money
MuyLocoNC
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What a perfect example of a partisan hack. That term gets throw around a great deal in here, but this big, wet, flapping douchebag is a textbook example. It is precisely because of liberal turds like you, that Independents like myself will hold their noses and vote for the Republicans, despite being against many of their social positions. The religious right may make my skin crawl, but the stink of your stupidity is too much for me to bare.
Your racist comment at the end sealed the deal. Shame on you.
hazorazo
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I am an independent, you are a fiscal conservative that votes Republican, from the sounds of it. You align yourself with your vote, and you are obviously voting Republican. So you are with the crazies.
I do not think you can argue the points I made about Republican hypocrisy.....I did not see you attack those ideas.
In fact, your whole post was just a big putdown about "liberal turds" like me, as you put it. You could not argue with my points about your hypocrisy.
As for your last comment.....laughable......you are so transparent. Try and make sense of your bullshit. Like I said, I grew up in a very conservative place, and you conservatives LOVE to use the "n" word, as well as any other racist bullshit.
I think there are plenty of Republicans like you trying hard to say you are independent, but your voting record speaks volumes. I used to consider Republicans on their merits, but now, that seems to be hard to do.....they have not done anything worthwhile for a long time.
MuyLocoNC
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I spent my adult years in the military and then sales, management and in the trenches. In all of those circumstances, my co-workers and fellow soldiers were a very diverse lot. I can't think of many instances since I was 18 that were not spent in a mixture of the races. The military is certainly that way as are most of the car stores I worked for. In all that time, I can count on one hand the times I heard the "N" word used that wasn't in a song coming out of a radio, even when there were no black people present.
On the few times it did happen, the individuals were confronted and ostracized. And in the car business, once that happens, you're gone fairly quickly. We can be a brutal bunch to people we don't care for. I think you have a skewed perception of white conservatives, my experiences are completely different than what you describe. Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've lived and worked with Conservatives in California, Oregon, Nevada, Colorado, Missouri, Virginia and most recently, North Carolina, which represents a fairly inclusive cross section of this country.
I just haven't seen or heard this rampant racism, at least in the magnitude you're describing. And I've been registered as an Independent since 1992, when I voted for Perot. There is no question I'm a fiscal conservative and vote Republican a majority of the time. As I said, I've held my nose when doing so many times, but since I don't feel a third party vote does anything except elect Democrats, I haven't had much choice.
Edit: Just wanted to add one thing, I've said it to many people before, but I think you are guilty of it as well. Most of the people on this forum that make these accusations of racism, apparently don't understand the word. What you guys mean to say in most cases is "prejudice" not racism. Furthermore, by continually throwing around the race card and making blanket accusations, you are far more guilty of prejudice than the people you're accusing.
On the few times it did happen, the individuals were confronted and ostracized. And in the car business, once that happens, you're gone fairly quickly. We can be a brutal bunch to people we don't care for. I think you have a skewed perception of white conservatives, my experiences are completely different than what you describe. Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've lived and worked with Conservatives in California, Oregon, Nevada, Colorado, Missouri, Virginia and most recently, North Carolina, which represents a fairly inclusive cross section of this country.
I just haven't seen or heard this rampant racism, at least in the magnitude you're describing. And I've been registered as an Independent since 1992, when I voted for Perot. There is no question I'm a fiscal conservative and vote Republican a majority of the time. As I said, I've held my nose when doing so many times, but since I don't feel a third party vote does anything except elect Democrats, I haven't had much choice.
Edit: Just wanted to add one thing, I've said it to many people before, but I think you are guilty of it as well. Most of the people on this forum that make these accusations of racism, apparently don't understand the word. What you guys mean to say in most cases is "prejudice" not racism. Furthermore, by continually throwing around the race card and making blanket accusations, you are far more guilty of prejudice than the people you're accusing.