Organic for new growers, dont bother with bottles...

pop22

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Is there any sources that states smoking organic weed is healthier then weed grown with fertilizer salts?
Does any one here know the actual difference between organic nutrients and so called salts based? Absolutely nothing! Soil life breaks down organic matter into the exact same "salts" organic fanatics warn you about! Ohhh but all those dangerous "chemicals" in it! yet NO ONE I've asked can name those so called dangerous chemicals! What about heavy metals? they're in soil, they're in organic nutrients, and organic nutrient companies have no way to minimize them. So it's long past time to bust this myth about organic being "better". And I grow organic! Why? Simplicity. You don't need a damn science lab, just mix your soil blend and add water. Even better I grow organic in auto pots.
And no, "organic" does not taste better or different. I've been proving this with blind taste tests for years. I've got $50 says no one can tell the difference!
 

Funkentelechy

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Just being a smart ass, trying to provide some levity to a thread that started out pretty rocky and hasn't really gotten better.

I grew up growing using organic/regenerative gardening principles, everyone I knew did it that way it was just how we did it. We didn't grow that way as a purity test or to be better than anyone, it's just the style of agriculture that we aligned with. But, I also firmly believe that everyone should grow the way that works for them.
I assume that most of the people here participate because they care about growing clean high quality weed. We differ on what that means and how you achieve that but I think it's pointless to try to make people feel bad about the method they choose to accomplish that goal.
That's the good thing about growing your own weed, you can grow it the way that you want it to be. And with communities like this we can find other people who also like to grow in similar ways and support each other by sharing knowledge that pertains to whatever style of growing you choose. Lets lift each other up and help everyone grow cleaner weed instead of trying to make people feel bad for making different choices than we would.
 

GenericEnigma

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I build homemade compost with local worms, insects, and bacteria, and input grass, produce, leaves, and alfalfa - all sourced from my own property. It powers my living soil by fostering a fungal-dominant medium.

It's very hostile to seedlings, so I also have a box of Miracle Grow.
 

pop22

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Just being a smart ass, trying to provide some levity to a thread that started out pretty rocky and hasn't really gotten better.

I grew up growing using organic/regenerative gardening principles, everyone I knew did it that way it was just how we did it. We didn't grow that way as a purity test or to be better than anyone, it's just the style of agriculture that we aligned with. But, I also firmly believe that everyone should grow the way that works for them.
I assume that most of the people here participate because they care about growing clean high quality weed. We differ on what that means and how you achieve that but I think it's pointless to try to make people feel bad about the method they choose to accomplish that goal.
That's the good thing about growing your own weed, you can grow it the way that you want it to be. And with communities like this we can find other people who also like to grow in similar ways and support each other by sharing knowledge that pertains to whatever style of growing you choose. Lets lift each other up and help everyone grow cleaner weed instead of trying to make people feel bad for making different choices than we would.
I agree with you about regenerative organics. However, the same " more is better and too much is just enough" thinking also thrives among organic growers, and that is the source of error prevalent in both salts based farming and organic. People need to stop thinking they can force feed plants, organic or not. I'm not criticizing organics, as I said, I grow mostly organic. It's not the source of nutrient that is at fault it's ignorance in the application of said nutrients. I'm against the spread of false information regarding either form of gardening and claiming one form or the other is better for any list of reasons is just perpetuation of myths. Science, not anecdotes, is the guide to growing that will get you the best of whatever you want to grow.
 

Mikchum

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New growers don't need that information. Is just a quick easy way to grow a small home garden. To find the base recipe here in the forums is impossible. I'm just laying it out in simple diy terms. Doesn't take much to grow . Good recipe and some will. Problem is coming here is a sea of different information. Confusing for most.
 

Mikchum

Member
I'll admit I'm a newbie to organics. Figuring out this base recipe as simple as it is actually took me a longtime vs finding it on day one in a forum about weed. Far from educated. Just getting the new grower started in the right direction. And slowly it multiples. Is freedom, is fun, is the best hobby imo...
 

Mikchum

Member
Wonder if the gatekeepers of the internet forum are upset?? Better watch what you say around here lol. They might make fun of you lmao... mcdonalds is calling...
 

Mikchum

Member
Wonder why the forums are dead? Wonder who could be driving people away and giving nonsense to new growers to confuse them? Could it be the self proclaimed gatekeepers of the internet weed forums? Lmao.. instead of growing more new growers, cultivating culture around a beautiful plant we got gatekeepers. Snobby annoying gatekeepers.
 

Mikchum

Member
I bet these same guys are all over this place telling you what your allowed to say and what you not allowed to say. U guys know your basically internet Karen's. Karenitup lol..
 

Mikchum

Member
Thankyou for that info . I'm one first grow currently. Opted for a organic setup and chose Fox Farms Happy Frog and Ocean Forest this first round. I'm not too pleased, the soils really inconsistent in moisture levels and even though I cut the ocean forest with happy frog my plants seem slightly overloaded . But I've heard many great things about Gaia Green and there dry ammendmants. Two of my fav YouTubers Cannucks and Mr.Grow it have persuaded me to check them out as well. It's really unfortunate Fox Farms had Deviated from there once gloried quality. As Ive had personal friends and other growers speak so highly of them.
Yeah gotta figure out how much you need to add. Seen good grows with those products. Is the happy frog the dry amendments? Or soil? Ocean forest will already be loaded with a few weeks of food.
Watched Mr canuk on YouTube, got respect for him. Enjoyed his videos. He has prob helped a lot of people. When I started using gaia green I used his recipe, wasn't the best smoke. Was ok. All it needed was the rock dust and a little gypsum imo...
 
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