TRUMP CONVICTED

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The walls are closing in faster now and the box is getting tighter. His disqualification case will start in Colorado next week in civil court, dunno if it will be on TV though. The judge said there would be a decision by Thanksgiving and then an appeal directly to the state supreme court there, skip the appeals stages. The SCOTUS should have it by the first week of December and if Colorado disqualifies him, it will be a slomo, weeks long process until the SCOTUS confirms he is out. I dunno if Trump will be in jail by then, but if he is disqualified, it will affect his conditions of release and his ability to be king maker in the GOP house. One thing is for sure, if he is cooling his heels in a DC jail he will bring as much heat as he possibly can on the republican house, and they will be required to make pilgrimages to him on visiting days! If he is disqualified all non-lawyer conversations will be recorded and perhaps made by a phone through glass! :lol:

All this shit happening during an election year is for the best I think, J6 will be replayed in his disqualification trial and his trials in DC and his TV trial in Georgia where he and about 3 of his cronies will be left after everybody else plead out. A lot of the future conspiracy defendants in DC are fucked even before they get to the federal start line, Georgia is tag teaming with Jack. They might get a nice deal in Georgia for rolling over, but they will be rolling right into Jack's arms and his deals are not so nice when he has them by the balls.
 

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Trump knocks judge in NY fraud case after fine: ‘He has gone crazy in his hatred’
Former President Trump said the judge in his New York civil trial “has gone crazy in his hatred,” after fining the former president $10,000 for violating a gag order imposed in the case.
“The judge in the New York State A.G. case refuses to accept the overturning of his decisions by the Appeals Court. This is a first in the history of the State! HE HAD GONE CRAZY IN HIS HATRED OF ‘TRUMP'” Trump wrote Thursday in a Truth Social post.

In an unexpected twist on Wednesday, Trump took the witness stand to answer a series of questions from Judge Arthur Engoron about an apparent violation of a gag order in place that prohibits Trump and other parties in the case from speaking about the judge’s staff.
The violation was in connection to a comment the former president made to reporters about a “very partisan judge with a person who is very partisan sitting alongside him, perhaps even more partisan than he is.”
Engoron suggested Trump was referring to his principal law clerk, who sits to the right of the judge. Trump denied this and said he was instead referencing his ex-fixer Michael Cohen, who testified this week and is a key witness in New York Attorney General Letitia James’ (D) fraud case against Trump.

Responding to Engoron’s questions, the former president said he thinks the judge’s clerk is “very biased against us.”
Upon leaving the stand, Engoron issued an order fining Trump $10,000.
“The Radical Left Judge who should not be handling the FAKE & FULLY DISCREDITED CASE brought against me by the New York State A.G. (It should be handled by the Commercial Division, but should never have been brought!), fined me $10,000 under his so-called gag order,” Trump wrote in a separate Truth Social post on Thursday, adding he believes the judge found him guilty “before the trial even started.”

In a separate post on Truth Social, Trump described the trial judge as “unhinged” and a “highly political and fully biased Trump Hater.”
While on the stand Wednesday, Trump pointed to his removal of a previous Truth Social post that prompted the gag order. The post falsely claimed the clerk was Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)’s “girlfriend,” and included personally identifying information about her. A Schumer spokesperson called the post “ridiculous, absurd and false,” in a statement to The Hill.
While Trump removed the post, it remained on Trump’s campaign website for another 17 days. Engoron then fined Trump $5,000 for violating the order and warned another violation could lead to serious punishment.

Trump said Wednesday he believed a political group affiliated with his campaign left the post up.
James’s lawsuit against Trump, the Trump organization, Trump’s sons Eric and Donald Trump Jr., alleges more than a decade of alleged fraud.
 

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Trump knocks judge in NY fraud case after fine: ‘He has gone crazy in his hatred’
Former President Trump said the judge in his New York civil trial “has gone crazy in his hatred,” after fining the former president $10,000 for violating a gag order imposed in the case.
“The judge in the New York State A.G. case refuses to accept the overturning of his decisions by the Appeals Court. This is a first in the history of the State! HE HAD GONE CRAZY IN HIS HATRED OF ‘TRUMP'” Trump wrote Thursday in a Truth Social post.

In an unexpected twist on Wednesday, Trump took the witness stand to answer a series of questions from Judge Arthur Engoron about an apparent violation of a gag order in place that prohibits Trump and other parties in the case from speaking about the judge’s staff.
The violation was in connection to a comment the former president made to reporters about a “very partisan judge with a person who is very partisan sitting alongside him, perhaps even more partisan than he is.”
Engoron suggested Trump was referring to his principal law clerk, who sits to the right of the judge. Trump denied this and said he was instead referencing his ex-fixer Michael Cohen, who testified this week and is a key witness in New York Attorney General Letitia James’ (D) fraud case against Trump.

Responding to Engoron’s questions, the former president said he thinks the judge’s clerk is “very biased against us.”
Upon leaving the stand, Engoron issued an order fining Trump $10,000.
“The Radical Left Judge who should not be handling the FAKE & FULLY DISCREDITED CASE brought against me by the New York State A.G. (It should be handled by the Commercial Division, but should never have been brought!), fined me $10,000 under his so-called gag order,” Trump wrote in a separate Truth Social post on Thursday, adding he believes the judge found him guilty “before the trial even started.”

In a separate post on Truth Social, Trump described the trial judge as “unhinged” and a “highly political and fully biased Trump Hater.”
While on the stand Wednesday, Trump pointed to his removal of a previous Truth Social post that prompted the gag order. The post falsely claimed the clerk was Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)’s “girlfriend,” and included personally identifying information about her. A Schumer spokesperson called the post “ridiculous, absurd and false,” in a statement to The Hill.
While Trump removed the post, it remained on Trump’s campaign website for another 17 days. Engoron then fined Trump $5,000 for violating the order and warned another violation could lead to serious punishment.

Trump said Wednesday he believed a political group affiliated with his campaign left the post up.
James’s lawsuit against Trump, the Trump organization, Trump’s sons Eric and Donald Trump Jr., alleges more than a decade of alleged fraud.
Donald just knows this guy is gonna clean him out when he gives the receiver the bill and she starts disposing of his properties, pundits say that should be in December.
 

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Colorado judge rejects latest Trump attempt to throw out lawsuit over 14th Amendment
A Colorado judge rejected the latest attempt by former President Trump to throw out a lawsuit seeking to keep him off the ballot in 2024 by invoking the 14th Amendment.

In her 24-page ruling, Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace rejected Trump’s argument that matters of ballot eligibility are limited to Congress, not the courts. Wallace also opposed Trump’s argument that state election officials cannot invoke Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

“The Court holds that states can, and have, applied Section 3 pursuant to state statues without federal enforcement legislation,” Wallace wrote.

Wallace’s ruling comes just days before the trial is slated to start Oct. 30.

The suit was filed last month by the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated voters in Colorado that include former federal, state and local officials. It is part of a wider argument by some legal scholars and lawmakers that Trump is disqualified from the ballot under the 14th Amendment for his alleged actions related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attacks on the Capitol.

The group alleges Trump violated the oath of office by “recruiting, inciting and encouraging a violent mob that attacked the Capitol on January 6, 2021 in a futile attempt to remain in office.”

Section 3 of the 14 Amendment, which is cited in the lawsuit, states that no person shall hold elected office who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.”

Earlier this month, Wallace rejected a separate attempt by Trump’s legal team to dismiss the case, ruling that his objections on free-speech grounds did not apply.

Similar lawsuits also invoking Section 3 have been filed in Minnesota and in Michigan.

Trump’s actions leading up to and on Jan. 6, when a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol in an effort to stop Congress from affirming President Biden’s victory, was referred to the Justice Department by a select House panel late last year. The committee’s investigation spanned months and included witness testimony from dozens of Trump White House officials at the time.

Trump was later indicted by the Justice Department and in Georgia for his and his allies’ efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and remain in power.
 

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Colorado judge rejects latest Trump attempt to throw out lawsuit over 14th Amendment
A Colorado judge rejected the latest attempt by former President Trump to throw out a lawsuit seeking to keep him off the ballot in 2024 by invoking the 14th Amendment.

In her 24-page ruling, Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace rejected Trump’s argument that matters of ballot eligibility are limited to Congress, not the courts. Wallace also opposed Trump’s argument that state election officials cannot invoke Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

“The Court holds that states can, and have, applied Section 3 pursuant to state statues without federal enforcement legislation,” Wallace wrote.

Wallace’s ruling comes just days before the trial is slated to start Oct. 30.

The suit was filed last month by the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated voters in Colorado that include former federal, state and local officials. It is part of a wider argument by some legal scholars and lawmakers that Trump is disqualified from the ballot under the 14th Amendment for his alleged actions related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attacks on the Capitol.

The group alleges Trump violated the oath of office by “recruiting, inciting and encouraging a violent mob that attacked the Capitol on January 6, 2021 in a futile attempt to remain in office.”

Section 3 of the 14 Amendment, which is cited in the lawsuit, states that no person shall hold elected office who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.”

Earlier this month, Wallace rejected a separate attempt by Trump’s legal team to dismiss the case, ruling that his objections on free-speech grounds did not apply.

Similar lawsuits also invoking Section 3 have been filed in Minnesota and in Michigan.

Trump’s actions leading up to and on Jan. 6, when a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol in an effort to stop Congress from affirming President Biden’s victory, was referred to the Justice Department by a select House panel late last year. The committee’s investigation spanned months and included witness testimony from dozens of Trump White House officials at the time.

Trump was later indicted by the Justice Department and in Georgia for his and his allies’ efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and remain in power.
4 days to the start line, will it be on TV? Judge says a call by Nov 23 or before, jury trial or a judge alone?
 

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Colorado judge rejects latest Trump attempt to throw out lawsuit over 14th Amendment
A Colorado judge rejected the latest attempt by former President Trump to throw out a lawsuit seeking to keep him off the ballot in 2024 by invoking the 14th Amendment.

In her 24-page ruling, Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace rejected Trump’s argument that matters of ballot eligibility are limited to Congress, not the courts. Wallace also opposed Trump’s argument that state election officials cannot invoke Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

“The Court holds that states can, and have, applied Section 3 pursuant to state statues without federal enforcement legislation,” Wallace wrote.

Wallace’s ruling comes just days before the trial is slated to start Oct. 30.

The suit was filed last month by the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated voters in Colorado that include former federal, state and local officials. It is part of a wider argument by some legal scholars and lawmakers that Trump is disqualified from the ballot under the 14th Amendment for his alleged actions related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attacks on the Capitol.

The group alleges Trump violated the oath of office by “recruiting, inciting and encouraging a violent mob that attacked the Capitol on January 6, 2021 in a futile attempt to remain in office.”

Section 3 of the 14 Amendment, which is cited in the lawsuit, states that no person shall hold elected office who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.”

Earlier this month, Wallace rejected a separate attempt by Trump’s legal team to dismiss the case, ruling that his objections on free-speech grounds did not apply.

Similar lawsuits also invoking Section 3 have been filed in Minnesota and in Michigan.

Trump’s actions leading up to and on Jan. 6, when a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol in an effort to stop Congress from affirming President Biden’s victory, was referred to the Justice Department by a select House panel late last year. The committee’s investigation spanned months and included witness testimony from dozens of Trump White House officials at the time.

Trump was later indicted by the Justice Department and in Georgia for his and his allies’ efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and remain in power.
If you think about it, we could hear from Trump's two ex-secret service agents about him try strangling one of them trying to get to the capitol so he could personally lead the insurrection. Would Jack help with witnesses and evidence, could he? How about Georgia?
 

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If he is in jail, the only way he would be able to communicate is through a phone behind glass on visiting days with the conversations recorded, especially if he was disqualified from running, politics would no longer be a factor in his prosecution, and it will be jail time. I can't imagine republicans flocking to visit him in jail if he was behind glass with everything recorded on the phone he would be using. It would muzzle him for good until trial and he would have no influence over the GOP primaries if he were disqualified and jailed before the end of the year. His trial in DC would be all we would hear from him he doesn't need to be in NY to be cleaned out by the judge while he's in jail awaiting trial.
 

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Trump’s HAIL MARY Gets CRUSHED IN HIS FACE by Court of Appeals Ruling

The DOJ has been on pins and needles waiting to see if the DC Appeals Court was going to prevent them from using obstruction of Congress as a charge against Jan6 insurrectionists, and to overturn dozens of convictions on the charge already secured. Michael Popok with Legal AF explains that the wait is over and it’s good news. The DC appeals court has just affirmed the department of justice’s use of this powerful criminal charge going forward.
 

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Before or after the DC trial on March 4th, if after he will be tried on TV as a convicted felon in a jumpsuit. His disqualification trial in Colorado starts in 4 days.

It looks like it could be on TV, if it is, it will be all over the news with plenty of video.



Prosecutor PUTS THE SCREWS through Trump, SPEEDING UP his Doom

It is time for Fani Willis in Georgia to ask the court to schedule the THIRD criminal trial of Donald Trump before the November election. Michael Popok of Legal AF reports on the likelihood that Fulton County DA Fani Willis will put the screws to Donald Trump and ask her judge to schedule the criminal conspiracy case against Donald Trump sometime in the spring or summer of 2024 so that the voters know who they’re voting for.
 

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‘He is a danger and needs to be gagged’: Former Federal Prosecutor on Trump behavior

Glenn Kirschner, Former Assistant U.S. Attorney, Glenn Kirschner and First Amendment Scholar and Professor at the University of Utah Law School, RonNell Andersen Jones join Nicolle Wallace on Deadline White House to discuss the latest courtroom behavior and language of Donald Trump and whether he could face further punishment as he faces scrutiny for violating gag orders.
 

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NY Judge Will Reconsider Trump's $10K Gag Order Fine
A New York judge said Thursday he would reconsider fining Donald Trump $10,000 for violating a gag order barring the former president from speaking publicly about court staff during his civil fraud trial.

Justice Arthur Engoron fined Trump for the second time Wednesday after he again appeared to violate the order by making an apparent reference to his top clerk in comments before news cameras outside the courtroom.

Trump's lawyer Christopher Kise argued Thursday that Engoron had misinterpreted Trump's comments and was impinging on his right to free speech.

"I'll reconsider the sanctions decision, because I do want to see the clip and the transcript," Engoron said.
"Unless I say otherwise, the decision stands," he added.

Trump, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination to challenge Democratic President Joe Biden in the 2024 U.S. election, is accused in the lawsuit by Democratic New York Attorney Letitia James of inflating his assets by billions of dollars to secure better loan terms and insurance premiums.
In his comments to reporters on Wednesday, Trump said "this judge is a very partisan judge, with a person who's very partisan sitting alongside of him."
It is standard practice in New York state court for clerks to sit next to judges, with the witness box on the other side.

Briefly called to the stand to explain the comment Wednesday, Trump said he was referring to witness Michael Cohen, his former lawyer and fixer.
Engoron imposed the gag order on Oct. 3 after Trump shared on social media the name and photo of the judge's top clerk and suggested she was politically biased. He had fined Trump $5,000 on Oct. 20 after a screenshot of the since-deleted post remained visible on Trump's campaign site for weeks.
 

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Jack Smith goes hard after gag order AND sets Trump up for pre-trial detention if he violates

Special Counsel Jack Smith just filed a 32-page pleading urging Judge Chutkan to reimpose the gag order on Trump AND making compliance with the gag order a specific condition of his pre-trial release such that, if he violates it, he will be ordered into custody and jailed pending trial.
 

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Gym is fretting about Mark flipping on him, Mark knows where all the bodies are buried.

If I had my 'druthers, I'druther take Meadows to trial without any agreement. It looks to me like he thinks he has leverage and wants zero jail time. That is unacceptable. Gym has reason to worry, even without Meadows. "I talk to the president all the time." Clearly nervous, especially from :40 on.

 

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If I had my 'druthers, I'druther take Meadows to trial without any agreement. It looks to me like he thinks he has leverage and wants zero jail time. That is unacceptable. Gym has reason to worry, even without Meadows. "I talk to the president all the time." Clearly nervous, especially from :40 on.

According to the experts (ex DOJ) the feds only give out deals for convictions, not just testimony and the feds drive a hard bargain, few get away with no time. If mark cuts a deal with Jack, he has to confess to all his crimes, testify and tell them of any crimes by others that he has knowledge of, they clean them out. Gym might have had to go through Mark to get to the president at times and Mark was clued in, he was a former congressman and one of Trump's connections to the house. Mark was chief of staff for a lazy and stupid man, he did a lot, and he knows a lot as the hub of a hub and spoke conspiracy. If he gets a deal from Jack a lot of people should worry because he doesn't need him to nail Trump's ass.
 
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