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'This needs to go forward': Petition to remove Trump from Minnesota ballot heads to court
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A group of Minnesota voters filed a legal challenge in September to block former President Donald Trump from appearing on the state's presidential ballot next year. Oral arguments are scheduled to begin on Nov. 2, and Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., joins Morning Joe to discuss.
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The ACLU,ACLU sides with Trump, argues Jan. 6 case gag order is unconstitutional
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Wednesday urged the judge overseeing former President Trump’s federal 2020 election criminal case in D.C. to reevaluate her gag order, arguing it is unconstitutionally overly broad and vague.
“Former President, and now Defendant, Donald Trump has said many things,” the ACLU and its D.C. affiliate wrote in court filings. “Much that he has said has been patently false and has caused great harm to countless individuals, as well as to the Republic itself. Some of his words and actions have led him to this criminal indictment, which alleges grave wrongdoing in contempt of the peaceful transition of power.”
“But Trump retains a First Amendment right to speak, and the rest of us retain a right to hear what he has to say,” the brief continued.
U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan last week granted special counsel Jack Smith’s motion to impose a gag order on Trump after he made a series of incendiary Truth Social posts attacking D.C. and various people involved in his case.
Trump is charged with four federal felony counts over his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, one of four criminal indictments he faces. He pleaded not guilty and has filed a variety of motions seeking to toss the charges.
Chutkan’s gag order, which is currently paused, bars Trump and his attorneys from speech that would “target” foreseeable witnesses, prosecutors in the case and court personnel. The former president is appealing.
The ACLU said the order is vague enough to violate Trump’s due process rights, contending he “cannot possibly know” what he is permitted to say.
“The entire order hinges on the meaning of the word ‘target,’” the ACLU wrote in its brief. “But that meaning is ambiguous, and fails to provide the fair warning that the Constitution demands, especially when, as here, it concerns a prior restraint on speech.”
The civil liberties group also contended the order is overly broad in violation of Trump’s First Amendment rights, saying it could prevent him from speaking about key points in the campaign, including the results of the 2020 presidential election and the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.
“This case is already one of the most talked-about trials of all time,” the ACLU wrote. “There may never have been a better-known criminal case in American history, or a better-known defendant. With that in mind, to the extent that the Court’s order seeks to prevent future statements from affecting the impartiality of the potential jury pool, the order seems unlikely to make much of a difference.”
The gag order is one of two imposed on Trump in his various cases.
In his civil fraud trial in New York, the former president was placed under a narrow gag order after attacking the judge’s principal clerk. That judge has since found Trump violated the order on two occasions and issued fines.
The ACLU filing comes the same day Trump unexpectedly took the stand in the New York case to answer allegations of violating the order.
Judge Arthur Engoron asked whether Trump made a reported comment that he is a “very partisan judge with a person who is very partisan sitting alongside him, perhaps even more partisan than he is.” Trump nodded, responding “yes.”
“To whom were you referring?” Engoron asked.
“You and [Michael] Cohen,” Trump replied.
“Are you sure that you didn’t mean the person on the other side, my principal law clerk?” Engoron asked.
“Yes, I’m sure,” Trump said.
The judge fined Trump $10,000.
ACLU sides with Trump, argues Jan. 6 case gag order is unconstitutional
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Wednesday urged the judge overseeing former President Trump’s federal 2020 election criminal case in D.C. to reevaluate her gag order, arguing it is unc…thehill.com
Is this the first gag order case the ACLU has defended?ACLU sides with Trump, argues Jan. 6 case gag order is unconstitutional
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Wednesday urged the judge overseeing former President Trump’s federal 2020 election criminal case in D.C. to reevaluate her gag order, arguing it is unconstitutionally overly broad and vague.
“Former President, and now Defendant, Donald Trump has said many things,” the ACLU and its D.C. affiliate wrote in court filings. “Much that he has said has been patently false and has caused great harm to countless individuals, as well as to the Republic itself. Some of his words and actions have led him to this criminal indictment, which alleges grave wrongdoing in contempt of the peaceful transition of power.”
“But Trump retains a First Amendment right to speak, and the rest of us retain a right to hear what he has to say,” the brief continued.
U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan last week granted special counsel Jack Smith’s motion to impose a gag order on Trump after he made a series of incendiary Truth Social posts attacking D.C. and various people involved in his case.
Trump is charged with four federal felony counts over his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, one of four criminal indictments he faces. He pleaded not guilty and has filed a variety of motions seeking to toss the charges.
Chutkan’s gag order, which is currently paused, bars Trump and his attorneys from speech that would “target” foreseeable witnesses, prosecutors in the case and court personnel. The former president is appealing.
The ACLU said the order is vague enough to violate Trump’s due process rights, contending he “cannot possibly know” what he is permitted to say.
“The entire order hinges on the meaning of the word ‘target,’” the ACLU wrote in its brief. “But that meaning is ambiguous, and fails to provide the fair warning that the Constitution demands, especially when, as here, it concerns a prior restraint on speech.”
The civil liberties group also contended the order is overly broad in violation of Trump’s First Amendment rights, saying it could prevent him from speaking about key points in the campaign, including the results of the 2020 presidential election and the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.
“This case is already one of the most talked-about trials of all time,” the ACLU wrote. “There may never have been a better-known criminal case in American history, or a better-known defendant. With that in mind, to the extent that the Court’s order seeks to prevent future statements from affecting the impartiality of the potential jury pool, the order seems unlikely to make much of a difference.”
The gag order is one of two imposed on Trump in his various cases.
In his civil fraud trial in New York, the former president was placed under a narrow gag order after attacking the judge’s principal clerk. That judge has since found Trump violated the order on two occasions and issued fines.
The ACLU filing comes the same day Trump unexpectedly took the stand in the New York case to answer allegations of violating the order.
Judge Arthur Engoron asked whether Trump made a reported comment that he is a “very partisan judge with a person who is very partisan sitting alongside him, perhaps even more partisan than he is.” Trump nodded, responding “yes.”
“To whom were you referring?” Engoron asked.
“You and [Michael] Cohen,” Trump replied.
“Are you sure that you didn’t mean the person on the other side, my principal law clerk?” Engoron asked.
“Yes, I’m sure,” Trump said.
The judge fined Trump $10,000.
ACLU sides with Trump, argues Jan. 6 case gag order is unconstitutional
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Wednesday urged the judge overseeing former President Trump’s federal 2020 election criminal case in D.C. to reevaluate her gag order, arguing it is unc…thehill.com
Wonder how they feel about crazies that "..just can't take it any more..." that harm government employees?Is this the first gag order case the ACLU has defended?
Speech comes with limits nothing is absolute and Trump is testing the boundaries of that. Speech that evokes violence can threaten and harm others and speech which misleads them can kill or harm people, like shouting FIRE in a crowded theater. Donald is an indicted criminal defendant and that comes with other restrictions in lieu of being jailed like paying a bond to be free. If he is disqualified inside 60 days his range of speech will be narrowed further and he might be jailed then and there based on the decision of the SCOTUS to disqualify him. Jail comes with a pretty big muzzle and Donald should be inside one now, Chutkan more or less said the only reason he isn't is because he is running for POTUS and leading his party by a mile.The ACLU,
Love their cause, hate some of their clients, support them anyway.
If he is disqualified inside 60 days it will be moot because Trump will be jailed after politics is no longer a factor in his prosecution. Right now, he practically controls the GOP house while out on bail and is speaker king maker.Is this the first gag order case the ACLU has defended?
Or given "aid and comfort" to anyone who has engaged in insurrectionIt argues that Trump must be disqualified from office due to the Insurrection Clause of the 14th Amendment, which bans anyone who has engaged in insurrection against the United States from holding office except by a waiver of Congress.