Offmymeds
Well-Known Member
Good point.
OK then. Biden 2020.
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C'mon man,listen I'm not naive and lost my rose colored glasses a long time ago,Joe has been in top level politics a long,long time.The nature of politics in this country over that amount of time is going to dirty ANYBODY'S lands at least a little bit.But to make those accusations vis a vis who he replaced is ludicrous, compared to his predecessor he's a arch angel,he replaced the most flawed ,unhinged,narcissist in presidential history.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
You’re dealing with fourth-stage maganoma.
Yeah,just trying to impart some common sense chemotherapy
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
save it for the treatment-responders.Yeah,just trying to impart some common sense chemotherapy
PadawanWarrior
Well-Known Member
Who's comparing? Trump is an ass, and Biden is a moron,
doublejj
Well-Known Member
moron>ass
PadawanWarrior
Well-Known Member
What a jackass. He's still lying about Medicare and SS. I swear he's gotta be a compulsive liar. And so much for uniting our country. I just can't believe how bad this guy actually is.
www.nbcnews.com
Biden escalates fight over Social Security and Medicare, frustrating Republicans
The battle stands ready to play out on Capitol Hill and in the 2024 presidential election, highlighting a growing partisan divide as the White House says Biden won't back down.
doublejj
Well-Known Member
Yeah McCarthy is a POS, can't believe anything he says.....What a jackass. He's still lying about Medicare and SS. I swear he's gotta be a compulsive liar. And so much for uniting our country. I just can't believe how bad this guy actually is.
Biden escalates fight over Social Security and Medicare, frustrating Republicans
The battle stands ready to play out on Capitol Hill and in the 2024 presidential election, highlighting a growing partisan divide as the White House says Biden won't back down.
Offmymeds
Well-Known Member
Rand Paul proposed vouchers. Mike Lee wants to take SS & Medicare to "rip 'em out by the roots." Rick Scott proposed sunsetting all entitlements and raising taxes on the poor and middle class. They've proposed eliminating social security to be replaced by individually managed brokerage accounts. That's reality. I'm very happy Biden is taking them to task.What a jackass. He's still lying about Medicare and SS. I swear he's gotta be a compulsive liar. And so much for uniting our country. I just can't believe how bad this guy actually is.
Biden escalates fight over Social Security and Medicare, frustrating Republicans
The battle stands ready to play out on Capitol Hill and in the 2024 presidential election, highlighting a growing partisan divide as the White House says Biden won't back down.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
something tells me that the privatized alternatives would be a bit light on the disability end of the program.
Offmymeds
Well-Known Member
and mental health and anything pandemic related.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
On another thread I bemoaned the social Darwinism that seems to be a recurrent theme among the freedomers.
shimbob
Well-Known Member
Something's gotta be cut to make room for the profit line item
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Their plan was to gut the IRS. Damned small-government shysters. Making the world safe for dark money.
CANON_Grow
Well-Known Member
I'm guessing this is a more appropriate place to debate union support for Biden, and the potential loss of it. I wasn't hiding from the conversation @Herb & Suds - was just trying to avoid further posting in a thread where it didn't belong, so radical right of me 
As I was trying (but obviously failed) to convey was Biden can't take union support for granted. The unions will send their money to support issues that directly affect them, as that is what members will demand of leadership. Why would they support Biden if he is only going to do what everyone expects Republicans would do, because he claims it's "difficult to sign"?
The fact that four unions rejected the offer but are forced to work under is not going to sit well, in fact the one union president is already gone because members didn't feel he represented them. Money isn't everything it would appear.
www.vice.com
This is not just my personal opinion, lets see what people that study this shit think:
www.vice.com
Now the bigger concern, comments made by National Railway Labor Conference chairman, Brendan Branon:
“I think it would also apply to the airline industry as well, where there are a number of significant outstanding negotiations, especially with the large pilot groups. Not to mention the ongoing Amtrak negotiations and all of those other industries under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA).”
www.cnbc.com
Haven't even touched on any of the issues he has had with other trade unions, not sure it would matter.
So, am I crazy to think that Biden may have an issue with unions if he is not careful?
As I was trying (but obviously failed) to convey was Biden can't take union support for granted. The unions will send their money to support issues that directly affect them, as that is what members will demand of leadership. Why would they support Biden if he is only going to do what everyone expects Republicans would do, because he claims it's "difficult to sign"?
The fact that four unions rejected the offer but are forced to work under is not going to sit well, in fact the one union president is already gone because members didn't feel he represented them. Money isn't everything it would appear.
Freight Rail Union President Loses Re-election After Members Were Forced to Accept Contract
“The general consensus is basically this is a spite vote, that’s the only way I can describe it,” one worker told Motherboard.
www.vice.com
This is not just my personal opinion, lets see what people that study this shit think:
More than 500 Labor Historians Condemn Biden’s Intervention in Freight Rail Dispute
It’s never good when people who spend their entire professional lives studying the subject say you fucked up.
www.vice.com
Now the bigger concern, comments made by National Railway Labor Conference chairman, Brendan Branon:
“I think it would also apply to the airline industry as well, where there are a number of significant outstanding negotiations, especially with the large pilot groups. Not to mention the ongoing Amtrak negotiations and all of those other industries under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA).”
Railroads, unions draw their lines in sand as Biden, Congress move to prevent strike
With President Biden urging Congress to prevent a rail strike, both rails and unions are drawing their lines in the sand on labor deal terms and consequences.
Haven't even touched on any of the issues he has had with other trade unions, not sure it would matter.
So, am I crazy to think that Biden may have an issue with unions if he is not careful?
PadawanWarrior
Well-Known Member
Is Slow Joe ever going to talk about all this bullshit violating our National Security? All I see him do is talk nonsense about how we're supposed to believe he's doing a good job with our economy. Too bad most rational people realize it's complete bullshit.
doublejj
Well-Known Member
Naw the republicans will still continue to push their anti-union policies...I'm guessing this is a more appropriate place to debate union support for Biden, and the potential loss of it. I wasn't hiding from the conversation @Herb & Suds - was just trying to avoid further posting in a thread where it didn't belong, so radical right of me
As I was trying (but obviously failed) to convey was Biden can't take union support for granted. The unions will send their money to support issues that directly affect them, as that is what members will demand of leadership. Why would they support Biden if he is only going to do what everyone expects Republicans would do, because he claims it's "difficult to sign"?
The fact that four unions rejected the offer but are forced to work under is not going to sit well, in fact the one union president is already gone because members didn't feel he represented them. Money isn't everything it would appear.
Freight Rail Union President Loses Re-election After Members Were Forced to Accept Contract
“The general consensus is basically this is a spite vote, that’s the only way I can describe it,” one worker told Motherboard.
This is not just my personal opinion, lets see what people that study this shit think:
More than 500 Labor Historians Condemn Biden’s Intervention in Freight Rail Dispute
It’s never good when people who spend their entire professional lives studying the subject say you fucked up.
Now the bigger concern, comments made by National Railway Labor Conference chairman, Brendan Branon:
“I think it would also apply to the airline industry as well, where there are a number of significant outstanding negotiations, especially with the large pilot groups. Not to mention the ongoing Amtrak negotiations and all of those other industries under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA).”
Railroads, unions draw their lines in sand as Biden, Congress move to prevent strike
With President Biden urging Congress to prevent a rail strike, both rails and unions are drawing their lines in the sand on labor deal terms and consequences.
Haven't even touched on any of the issues he has had with other trade unions, not sure it would matter.
So, am I crazy to think that Biden may have an issue with unions if he is not careful?
Democrats Support Labor Unions, Republicans
Oppose Labor Unions in their Party Platforms
At their last convention, the Democratic Party expressed its strong support for the labor movement. The party platform notes that “when workers are strong, America is strong. Democrats will make it easier for workers, public and private, to exercise their right to organize and join unions.” The Democratic Party supports amendments to the National Labor Relations Act which will strengthen the rights of workers and their labor organizations.
In contrast, the Republic Party platform sees unions as a threat to “freedom in the workplace” and urges elected officials across the country to pass laws which limit collective bargaining rights. Republicans continue to support so-called “right to work” laws and oppose any efforts to make the process of union organizing less difficult.
Democrats Support, Republicans Oppose Labor Unions in their Party Platforms - Health Professionals & Allied Employees
While the Democratic Party platform supports a strong labor movement, the Republican Party platform sees unions as a threat to "freedom" in the workplace.
www.hpae.org
PJ Diaz
Well-Known Member
I mentioned that this was a big problem back on page 58 of this thread, and was subsequently gaslit.I'm guessing this is a more appropriate place to debate union support for Biden, and the potential loss of it. I wasn't hiding from the conversation @Herb & Suds - was just trying to avoid further posting in a thread where it didn't belong, so radical right of me
As I was trying (but obviously failed) to convey was Biden can't take union support for granted. The unions will send their money to support issues that directly affect them, as that is what members will demand of leadership. Why would they support Biden if he is only going to do what everyone expects Republicans would do, because he claims it's "difficult to sign"?
The fact that four unions rejected the offer but are forced to work under is not going to sit well, in fact the one union president is already gone because members didn't feel he represented them. Money isn't everything it would appear.
Freight Rail Union President Loses Re-election After Members Were Forced to Accept Contract
“The general consensus is basically this is a spite vote, that’s the only way I can describe it,” one worker told Motherboard.
This is not just my personal opinion, lets see what people that study this shit think:
More than 500 Labor Historians Condemn Biden’s Intervention in Freight Rail Dispute
It’s never good when people who spend their entire professional lives studying the subject say you fucked up.
Now the bigger concern, comments made by National Railway Labor Conference chairman, Brendan Branon:
“I think it would also apply to the airline industry as well, where there are a number of significant outstanding negotiations, especially with the large pilot groups. Not to mention the ongoing Amtrak negotiations and all of those other industries under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA).”
Railroads, unions draw their lines in sand as Biden, Congress move to prevent strike
With President Biden urging Congress to prevent a rail strike, both rails and unions are drawing their lines in the sand on labor deal terms and consequences.
Haven't even touched on any of the issues he has had with other trade unions, not sure it would matter.
So, am I crazy to think that Biden may have an issue with unions if he is not careful?
