AR-15 stands for assault rifle 15

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
No. AR doesn't stand for assault rifle. Im sure this thr÷ad has determined that by now.
I hunt crossbow, blackpowder, weapon is a tool. One shot one kill.
Too bad all guns weren't one shot. <sans law enforcement & military >
How many lives would that save?
Just sayin
BTW, I am a meat hunter, and the deer meat I put in my freezer is often my supper. I've dropped deer at 150 yds. Never had the use for a high powered rifle, nor a handgun. Xbow, .50 or .56 cal smoke pole, or a good knife. Or 2. Or
Dropping a deer with a knife, now that’s a story I want to hear.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I’ll pass on anything CA has to offer.
You would not say that if you ever had a taco al pastor from an LA area taco truck.

I am pushing back against your “most every newspaper” claim. It paints a false and divisive picture.

Twenty-nine per cent of newspapers in US won’t run ads for handguns. Nineteen per cent disallow any gun classifieds.

 

DoubleAtotheRON

Well-Known Member
You would not say that if you ever had a taco al pastor from an LA area taco truck.

I am pushing back against your “most every newspaper” claim. It paints a false and divisive picture.

Twenty-nine per cent of newspapers in US won’t run ads for handguns. Nineteen per cent disallow any gun classifieds.

I do love me some food truck street tacos!, we have plenty here.
The “most newspapers”… I was referring to Oklahoma in particular.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

Well-Known Member
There's multiple Gunshows just about every weekend somewhere in the State.. people are def stock piling high capacity mags. Prob sold out by now.
 

Budley Doright

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thank you...nicest thing you've ever said to me...if you have to own an assault rifle to be an American, i'll come talk to you about immigration.
funny thing is, i actually own a 9mm hi-point carbine...it's a lot of fun to shoot, but to be honest with you, it's a piece of shit for home defense...i have 2 9mm pistols that are a lot easier to maneuver with, and a 20 gauge shotgun, that is a superior home defense weapon as well, loaded with bird shot it will cut anyone in my house in half, without reaching my next door neighbors if i happen to miss...
Out of the many guns I have, yes the shotguns are probably the best ones for home defence. Just jacking a shell would typically make most poop their pants. I have one Remington 870 3” mag without a plug that never leaves the house as it’s illegal for hunting with more the 3 here.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Out of the many guns I have, yes the shotguns are probably the best ones for home defence. Just jacking a shell would typically make most poop their pants. I have one Remington 870 3” mag without a plug that never leaves the house as it’s illegal for hunting with more the 3 here.
Shotguns are the best for home defense for sure. I got an AR12 Panzer. 10+1 mag. Looks scary as shit!
 

injinji

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I personally think that this whole problem started with kids sitting in front of “first person” shooter video games for hours every day. The graphics are so realistic these days that thier brains see it as “normal”. As a kid, we had Pong, Pac-Man, etc, carried rifles to school in the back window of our trucks, and nobody thought anything about it. Also, the instant access to world information via the internet hasn’t helped either.
Millions of kids play video games, yet very few of them shoot anything. Most school shooters have faced extreme social isolation at school. Many are bullied. There was a school shooter who lived. Years later when he was talking to a reporter he said that if any one person had said to him, "you are alright," he would have walked away. He said that even when he was shooting, he didn't want to do it. But he felt the whole world was against him. With the pandemic the percent of kids who feel extreme isolation has almost doubled in the last three years. The worst is yet to come.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Millions of kids play video games, yet very few of them shoot anything. Most school shooters have faced extreme social isolation at school. Many are bullied. There was a school shooter who lived. Years later when he was talking to a reporter he said that if any one person had said to him, "you are alright," he would have walked away. He said that even when he was shooting, he didn't want to do it. But he felt the whole world was against him. With the pandemic the percent of kids who feel extreme isolation has almost doubled in the last three years. The worst is yet to come.
Kids all over the world play video games, yet only in America is the problem of mass murder epidemic, because of the number and availability of guns. The mental health problems are related to technology, social media and not enough real world social contact, not so much violent games. We also have plenty of American movies and TV shows, we share a living room in that respect and similar demographics, but Canada has a small fraction of the gun murders per capita. We regulate guns and control who can own one and what kind, so do most other free countries, who also have few gun deaths.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Millions of kids play video games, yet very few of them shoot anything. Most school shooters have faced extreme social isolation at school. Many are bullied. There was a school shooter who lived. Years later when he was talking to a reporter he said that if any one person had said to him, "you are alright," he would have walked away. He said that even when he was shooting, he didn't want to do it. But he felt the whole world was against him. With the pandemic the percent of kids who feel extreme isolation has almost doubled in the last three years. The worst is yet to come.
Kids all over the world play video games, yet only in America is the problem of mass murder epidemic, because of the number and availability of guns. The mental health problems are related to technology, social media and not enough real world social contact, not so much violent games. We also have plenty of American movies and TV shows, we share a living room in that respect and similar demographics, but Canada has a small fraction of the gun murders per capita. We regulate guns and control who can own one and what kind, so do most other free countries, who also have few gun deaths.
So... what's the answer?.... and you can't say "Take all the guns away"... because that's never going to happen. So, what do we do?
Trillions of guns exist too.. but very few of them go on a shooting spree. The percentage has got to be astronomically low.
 

Bagginski

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Thanks. You're right, prelude is a better choice. Don't forget to include "offensive", it's pretty critical in all the cases.
Ummm, assault *is* offensive action against another, redundance doesn’t add anything - so, no, not critical (and, like I said, *battery* applies to contact). Never read a case in which a person charged with assault & battery was described as only making ‘defensive contact’, maybe not much need to lean into it real hard
 

ActionianJacksonian

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Ummm, assault *is* offensive action against another, redundance doesn’t add anything - so, no, not critical (and, like I said, *battery* applies to contact). Never read a case in which a person charged with assault & battery was described as only making ‘defensive contact’, maybe not much need to lean into it real hard
So why is the term "*assault* rifle" leaned into so hard?
 

injinji

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So... what's the answer?.... and you can't say "Take all the guns away"... because that's never going to happen. So, what do we do?
Trillions of guns exist too.. but very few of them go on a shooting spree. The percentage has got to be astronomically low.
A down under type buy back would be a good start. I would sell three quarters of my guns if the price was right.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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A down under type buy back would be a good start. I would sell three quarters of my guns if the price was right.
So, you'd still have a 1/4 of your guns... that's not really helping anything if you sell YOUR guns is it? I mean, are your guns going to kill anybody that you're aware of?.... No?, ...then why sell them? (hypothetically)
 

printer

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So... what's the answer?.... and you can't say "Take all the guns away"... because that's never going to happen. So, what do we do?
Trillions of guns exist too.. but very few of them go on a shooting spree. The percentage has got to be astronomically low.
So the percentage is astronomically low but if you have trillions, well mass shootings (over three) seem to be going on every week. And more people buying guns as they do not feel safe with all the guns out there.
 
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