January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

[Skillcraft]

It is an unpopular view because all my life it has been used by the right to cover up systemic racism.
While theoretically you are correct, that no racism or other bigotry is acceptable, I have seen what you said by racists to dilute, distract, demoralize from starting the job somewhere.

Every time I hear border security mentioned, it is a race dog whistle. The brown people are taking our things! So, correct in theory, used to
sustain the shadow of slavery in practice.

I see you said theoretically it was wrong. That is where we disagree. I whole heartedly believe it is wrong. But something I truly believe is that if we do not address racism as a whole then how do we end it. I mean if we teach our children that we should only end racism by whites for now then we end up ending racism by whites and allow racism by others to proliferate. Therefore we never truly end racism. It becomes a vicous cycle and the American people are still divided.

 

[CatHedral]

I see you said theoretically it was wrong. That is where we disagree. I whole heartedly believe it is wrong. But something I truly believe is that if we do not address racism as a whole then how do we end it. I mean if we teach our children that we should only end racism by whites for now then we end up ending racism by whites and allow racism by others to proliferate. Therefore we never truly end racism. It becomes a vicous cycle and the American people are still divided.

No! Theoretically you are correct. But in practice the idea has been exploited by racists.

If I really did say that, please bold that part.

 

[Skillcraft]

Ok, list racist activity in the last 5 years not aimed at the reliable targets of the rich Protestant heterosexual white male cult that is conservatism in this country.

and not links from the pathological news outlets that pander to MAGA. Like Fox.

For starters I do not know how to add a link. I can barely get on the internet and do what I do. I do not listen to Fox news, MSNBC ,cnn, Bloomberg news or any other cable news source. Because I know they all have a slant toward their coverage.

 

[CatHedral]

For starters I do not know how to add a link. I can barely get on the internet and do what I do. I do not listen to Fox news, MSNBC ,cnn, Bloomberg news or any other cable news source. Because I know they all have a slant toward their coverage.

Please describe where you do get your news.

 

[Skillcraft]

Please describe where you do get your news.

I only watch the local news in my area and look on the internet to find out what I am looking for. Sometimes that is from an MSNBC contributor or maybe some other news agency. But how did we get off of the topic we were discussing? Ending racism in America. But you do look at your reply your exact words were theoretically it is wrong. Look back and see what you typed. Maybe I am to optimistic but I believe that it all Americans came together we could end racism period. But if all of America came together and shared the same voice then we wouldn't need the republican or democrat parties. And believe me they know it. Neither party wants us to become truly United. That is my belief.

 

[CatHedral]

I only watch the local news in my area and look on the internet to find out what I am looking for. Sometimes that is from an MSNBC contributor or maybe some other news agency. But how did we get off of the topic we were discussing? Ending racism in America. But you do look at your reply your exact words were theoretically it is wrong. Look back and see what you typed. Maybe I am to optimistic but I believe that it all Americans came together we could end racism period. But if all of America came together and shared the same voice then we wouldn't need the republican or democrat parties. And believe me they know it. Neither party wants us to become truly United. That is my belief.

Show me. Quote and bold. I reread it 3x and I did not say that.

 

[HGCC]

What do you think we should unite around? People have different views on a whole range of topics. I don't think religion should influence government (as an example), a bunch of people feel otherwise...you can't really just come together there.

I think we would be better served by more factions actually. Instead of 2 teams, have 10 or whatever so your party really identifies with your beliefs. To get things done would require getting a bunch of different groups together, build more of a consensus.

 

[doublejj]

I only watch the local news in my area and look on the internet to find out what I am looking for. Sometimes that is from an MSNBC contributor or maybe some other news agency. But how did we get off of the topic we were discussing? Ending racism in America. But you do look at your reply your exact words were theoretically it is wrong. Look back and see what you typed. Maybe I am to optimistic but I believe that it all Americans came together we could end racism period. But if all of America came together and shared the same voice then we wouldn't need the republican or democrat parties. And believe me they know it. Neither party wants us to become truly United. That is my belief.

One of the first steps to recovery is accepting that there is a problem....(see 12 steps). One party doesn't seem able to get past step 1.... we need an intervention

 

[doublejj]

step #2....
Three men convicted of murdering Ahmaud Arbery sentenced to life in prison
The three white men were found guilty of felony murder in November in the fatal shooting of Arbery, a Black man who was running in their neighborhood when they confronted him.

 

[Skillcraft]

It is an unpopular view because all my life it has been used by the right to cover up systemic racism.
While theoretically you are correct, that no racism or other bigotry is acceptable, I have seen what you said by racists to dilute, distract, demoralize from starting the job somewhere.

Every time I hear border security mentioned, it is a race dog whistle. The brown people are taking our things! So, correct in theory, used to
sustain the shadow of slavery in practice.

It is right here. You said theoretically you are correct that no racism or bigotry is acceptable. Do I need to point it out in some other form also.

 

[Skillcraft]

step #2....
Three men convicted of murdering Ahmaud Arbery sentenced to life in prison
The three white men were found guilty of felony murder in November in the fatal shooting of Arbery, a Black man who was running in their neighborhood when they confronted him.

I totally agree with the verdict. Good for those racist motherfuckers. They have no business out here with the rest of the population.

 

[hanimmal]

I only watch the local news in my area and look on the internet to find out what I am looking for. Sometimes that is from an MSNBC contributor or maybe some other news agency. But how did we get off of the topic we were discussing? Ending racism in America. But you do look at your reply your exact words were theoretically it is wrong. Look back and see what you typed. Maybe I am to optimistic but I believe that it all Americans came together we could end racism period. But if all of America came together and shared the same voice then we wouldn't need the republican or democrat parties. And believe me they know it. Neither party wants us to become truly United. That is my belief.

You really should be careful with your 'local' news sources too. It has been weaponized by the mega wealthy for the right wing propagandists.

Also I am curious what these non-white 'racists' are doing that is not being called a crime that you think is a problem.

For starters I do not know how to add a link. I can barely get on the internet and do what I do. I do not listen to Fox news, MSNBC ,cnn, Bloomberg news or any other cable news source. Because I know they all have a slant toward their coverage.

Here you go:

Copy the web address.



In the type box on this site you select the 'insert link' icon.



When you click it this box opens up:



Then you paste the URL into that top box. Hit enter and the link is added.

 

[CatHedral]

It is right here. You said theoretically you are correct that no racism or bigotry is acceptable. Do I need to point it out in some other form also.

Theoretically, you are correct that no racism or bigotry is acceptable.

would you prefer the tautologous statement

Theoretically, you are correct that any racism or bigotry is unacceptable.

 

[rkymtnman]

step #2....
Three men convicted of murdering Ahmaud Arbery sentenced to life in prison
The three white men were found guilty of felony murder in November in the fatal shooting of Arbery, a Black man who was running in their neighborhood when they confronted him.

father son no chance of parole. the neighbor is 30 yr before parole chance.

 

[Skillcraft]

You really should be careful with your 'local' news sources too. It has been weaponized by the mega wealthy for the right wing propagandists.

Also I am curious what these non-white 'racists' are doing that is not being called a crime that you think is a problem.

Here you go:

You are looking for an argument and that will not happen with me. All I have said is that their is racism in all ethnicities and that all racism should be addressed and ended. Have said nothing more on the subject. Never mentioned crimes or anything else.

 

[hanimmal]

You are looking for an argument and that will not happen with me. All I have said is that their is racism in all ethnicities and that all racism should be addressed and ended. Have said nothing more on the subject. Never mentioned crimes or anything else.

Whose arguing? I just asked for an example of what it is you consider racist, because it is something that can really mean anything to people lately. Even something as simple as teaching about the historical facts of our nation.

 

[Skillcraft]

Theoretically, you are correct that no racism or bigotry is acceptable.

would you prefer the tautologous statement

Theoretically, you are correct that any racism or bigotry is unacceptable.

I guess I was hoping for something along the lines of all racism is unjust and done by the ignorant. That racism is not patriotic in no form and shouldn't be tolerated period. It is not a theoretical problem. It's real and has no place in America.

 

[CatHedral]

I guess I was hoping for something along the lines of all racism is unjust and done by the ignorant. That racism is not patriotic in no form and shouldn't be tolerated period. It is not a theoretical problem. It's real and has no place in America.

Those are sentiments. I’m interested in the objective policies that will advance the program over the breaking backs of our tens of millions of entrenched bigots.

 

[Skillcraft]

Whose arguing? I just asked for an example of what it is you consider racist, because it is something that can really mean anything to people lately. Even something as simple as teaching about the historical facts of our nation.

Racism to me is judging someone by the color of their skin, religion ethnicity or any other factor that doesn't directly correlate to who that person really is. So are you folks telling me that in the United States racism is only a problem when it is white people that are racist? If not please clarify because that is the vibe I am getting.

 

[CatHedral]

Racism to me is judging someone by the color of their skin, religion ethnicity or any other factor that doesn't directly correlate to who that person really is. So are you folks telling me that in the United States racism is only a problem when it is white people that are racist? If not please clarify because that is the vibe I am getting.

We classify the other things as other bigotries. Religious prejudice is only incidentally racist, as when Jews or Arab Muslims are targeted. Sex-based bigotry is generally not racist per se. Women and LGBTQ… are also persecuted or undercompensated.

But racism is specifically the first thing you mentioned, skin color. I’m not dismissing the others, but I think your classification need tuning.