Ok so I'll just jump in here and say this, I do know *geniusdude* personally, we met at the supply store that I wrk at sometimes. He actually is a pretty talented grower with a pretty sweet set up.. I get why he was frustrated but I did tell him he was a jackass for jumping in here thinking he was gonna convince anyone of anything acting like that, like wtf u think was gonna happen bro?? he just approached the whole deal wrong, and he actually does and has lived off grid, I helped him with some issues he was having with pumps burning up in his tillapia pond feeding his raised beds. He is a HoTT headed mfr, I've gotten into it with him in person before because just like old farmers are, he's very set in his ways lol and talking anything new to him, well u might as well be talking to a cinder block. (I'm still trying to play neutral here just making known the facts of HIS situation that I know) now when i was there he ddnt let me look at all his stuff but I did see and look thru probably ten of his journals, and man he does keep detailed journals of lots of stuff, (PPM READINGS,ex,pH temp,eh etc and he does it daily I saw it written down with my own 2 eyes )and he has been doing it a long time, but he's not like "book smart" I guess is how u would put it? And he's most def Not a people person so I really DNT know why he thought coming on here was gonna work out lol. I'm not one to candy Coat anything so we're not like the best of friends or even kinda friends I guess we just know each other and have butted heads a few times, I could kinda be to blame for telling him about RIU so sry for bringing all this on, and I feel bad for it happening which is why I'm writing this speech In the first place. But really some of the stuff I saw him doing was pretty fkn cool, so I DNT really have any reason to doubt that he's ONTO SOMETHING but I have no clue what it is nor will I know probably till he's done, and I might never know esp if it doesnt wrk out. But he is friends with ALOT of ppl so I DNT doubt that he has sent stuff out to be tested either, he's actually Been working with some ppl I wish I could say I was a part of some of the projects but they are a waaaay closed lip tight knit group of old school growers, and just kinda trying to give him the credit he actually does deserve because I do know he is a weird fucker, but he's produced some pretty impressive meds that I've had the pleasure of smoking personally I kinda just wanted shit to work itself out on here so ppl ddnt come at me for just knowing this cat, but if that's what it turn into it is what it is I guess... I'm actually pretty curious to see what he's been up to, esp if he came in guns a'blazing like that, ??? Maybe he is onto some new shit? I dunno? But I also would t blame anyone for banning his ass either, cuz sites like this are most def not intended to be a fighting ground. Everyone should keep that stuff on Facebook with the rest of the garbage and political b.s. that's on there.. I'm just glad to see this thread sort of back to normal, whew it did get intense for a min..