In 2020. America will not get BERNED again

Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Fogdog said:
You said Republicans favor Bernie's Medicare for All plan. You failed to support that with back up information. You lied. Why would anybody listen you when you have been shown to be a liar?

Some facts:

155 million people have private healthcare coverage provided through their work -- that's from the 2016 Census bureau cited in a Wikipedia article linked below
70% of people with healthcare coverage like their plan -- that's in the Gallup poll article linked below

Simple arithmetic says 108.5 million people like the coverage they have will be forced into Medicare.

I don't need somebody else's study to draw the conclusion that 10's of millions of voters will oppose government forcing them out of a plan they like.

You can talk till you are green in the face to some people and they will resist being told what to do. So Bernie is just forcing them. That's a losing proposition in my opinion.

A public option for people to take the healthcare dollars they already spend to buy into Medicare is the better policy. Corporations who provide healthcare coverage as a benefit may decide whether or not to buy into Medicare too. Under Obamacare, people with low incomes and no healthcare benefit through work are already subsidized for healthcare.

If Bernie's Medicare for All is so great, why does it force people out of plans they like? If it's so much better and cheaper, why not let people decide for themselves? You need to answer this question because it's the only reply I'll give you regarding this subject from now on.

Links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_coverage_in_the_United_States


https://news.gallup.com/poll/245195/americans-rate-healthcare-quite-positively.aspx
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They don't lie, they use alternative facts.
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
Bernie Sanders is not electable for many reasons such as his stupid authoritarian health care plan that forces tens of millions of people out of plans they like and he is a poor leader for women and minorities issues.

Haven't you noticed?
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described 'elecatable' and what makes one so?

PS. according to Nina Turner- Sanders will be our next President..whoops!
 
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schuylaar

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92x7000/5150 said:
Will you vote for the winner of the Democratic primary regardless of who it is?

And do you pledge to do everything you can to SUPPORT the winner of the democratic primary?
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i'm an indie even though i must register as dem or i can't vote in florida's fvcked up version of voting.

how come you don't answer MY questions..
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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schuylaar said:
i'm an indie even though i must register as dem or i can't vote in florida's fvcked up version of voting.

how come you don't answer MY questions..
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You still don't understand how voting works.

Sad.

It's tempting to say "I'm shocked" when I see a 60 year old who still doesn't know how elections function, but I have known you too long.
 
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
i'm an indie even though i must register as dem or i can't vote in florida's fvcked up version of voting.

how come you don't answer MY questions..
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Why should the Democratic Party allow people who aren't Democrats to participate in deciding who candidate from Democratic Party will be?

By your own words, you invalidate your right to participation in the Democratic Party. You would be excluded if I had anything to say about it.

Why is Sanders running as a Democrat? He's never wanted to be a member of that party before. Why doesn't he run as a Republican? He can't win as a Democrat anyway.
 
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92x7000/5150

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The new DNC rules state that a candidate must "be a bona fide Democrat whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings, and/or public statements affirmatively demonstrates that the candidate is faithful to the interests, welfare, and success of the Democratic Party of the United States who subscribes to the substance, intent, and principles of the Charter and the Bylaws of the Democratic Party of the United States, and who will participate in the Convention in good faith."

And candidates must affirm in writing to the DNC chairman that they "are a Democrat... are a member of the Democratic Party; will accept the Democratic nomination; and will run and serve as a member of the Democratic Party."
 
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