velvet_underground
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A 10 gal. pot @ 2/3 would be less than a cubic foot of soil.. This is ok? I'm not taking into consideration the top dress. I'd imagine cooking up 4 cf of soil should be sufficient for 4 pots..
Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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Crab Pot
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10 gallon pots are inadequate for no till IMO. I'm currently using 25 gallon Geopots and they work a million times better than 10 gallon containers. I couldn't no-till properly in 10's. I'm going to add a 200 gallon container very soon. I used to use 7's, 10's, 15's but there is no comparison.
If I had a 36" tent I would go this route, a 65 gallon smart pot @ 32" in diameter.
https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Pots-65-Gallon-Soft-Sided-Container/dp/B0055F5TBK
velvet_underground
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Thanks Crabby! The room i have is in no way conducive to be able to use a container od that size. Believe me, I'd love to.
As i mentioned, I'm not really worried so much about doing a 'no till' than i am using LOS. I plan to dump the post and re-ammend after every cycle.
As i mentioned, I'm not really worried so much about doing a 'no till' than i am using LOS. I plan to dump the post and re-ammend after every cycle.
elkamino
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I do a similar thing and think you'll be fine with the 7 gals. Both my 7 gallon hard-sideds grow great bud in a similar setup as yours, although i run a bare bulb vert 600 and squeeze plants into the circle space available. 1-4 ozs per plant.
I'm all organic and stoked about my soil and just reammend each run, lots of vermicompost and a few other things. And toss the rootball. My soil is about 10 runs old, morphed from Subcool's recipe to Coot's-ish. This past run all I added was water to my 7 gals. Well also aloe and AgSil 2 or 3x in the 10 or 11 week cycle. I got lots of ammendments and would've added more but they stayed happy so just water. I've been growing in some blend of organic super-type soil for 7 years and this was the first time I;ve ever not had to reammend... stoked about that.
The plants below grew in 7-gal nursery pots, in a many times reammended Coot's mix.
Good luck!
velvet_underground
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Elkamino.. How long were you able to veg in your 7 gal. pots?
elkamino
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Typically 7-10 days, although I don't keep notes.
GreenSanta
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here is the thing, I have 2 plants in one of my first SIP, I think I had too much food in there, huge buds massive yield, however, there is no fading whatsoever and I am afraid the sipdermites will get the best of them shortly if I dont harvest them, they are at day 62, I am just worried about the smoke being harsh, they are so lush green. Anyone have experience with this, should I try to run them as long as possible until they start fading? I am not that worried generally but there is fair bit of weed on there and I am trying to do the right thing. Thanks.
Vnsmkr
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The cure is what takes the harshness out of your flowers. At 62 days in flower, depending on how long it usually is?, should be plenty to not worry about them being green. I dont always see a fade on my plants depending on what it is
GreenSanta
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Good to know, they are just so lush still, but they are ready enough. Need to start fresh. I m so done growing 2 plants in the same pot, unless clones...
calliandra
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Ah I soo hear you, did that once too!
yungkodama
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I got some babies in some solos right now. In a nuttshell I just have 1 bag of FFOF and im trying to figure out which is the best way to introduce organic nutes to this soil. Its my first time ever getting into organic feeding but I want to dedicate my time to recycle my soil over cycles to get the microbes kicking ass. Ive been told many things about super soils and what not but im trying to get in the cheap way by slowly adding amendments to my soil. Right now im debating whether to get some worm castings or guano to add some N and maybe some K but as I normally over think so anyone care to help a guy out? Should I just top dress REALLY lightly? Or make a little water mix? Sorry for sounding like a noob to. Thank you!
calliandra
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Hm well there's always more than one way to go
This is roughly what I'd do:
I don't know the FFOF, but assuming it's a ready-to-go potting soil, I wouldn't amend with nutrients to start with, as it's loaded up anyways for a few weeks.
Worm castings yes! Start getting the biology going.
And then make aerated wormcast teas and keep adding microorganisms that way (maybe 2-3 times during the grow, and foliar it too, so the upper plant parts have good microbial protection).
Probably a topdressing half ways through the grow, and after that, you start reamending.
yungkodama
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Sounds pretty simple, maybe a little guano top dressing and some well balanced npk ratio aswell. To make teas all I need is a tote, pump and airstone correct? I need to make a garden outside so my neighbors wont be wondering what all this is for lol I have this one neughbor right next door who is a avid eexperienced hydroponic gardener but I dont know if he is 420 and wouldnt want to raise flags with water pumps untill they see plants outside my yard. Thats still yet to come. So can I just make a water and casting mix? Microbe activity wouldnt be as active but I dont mind aslong as its simple and puts me out the spot light for now!Hm well there's always more than one way to go
This is roughly what I'd do:
I don't know the FFOF, but assuming it's a ready-to-go potting soil, I wouldn't amend with nutrients to start with, as it's loaded up anyways for a few weeks.
Worm castings yes! Start getting the biology going.
And then make aerated wormcast teas and keep adding microorganisms that way (maybe 2-3 times during the grow, and foliar it too, so the upper plant parts have good microbial protection).
Probably a topdressing half ways through the grow, and after that, you start reamending.
yungkodama
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Really wss trying to veg for 2 weeks so maybe I just let the soil do its thing. Harvest and reammend the soil and keep the rootball in there and then add very little amenmdents so it wont burn future seedlings or smaller plants. Or make seperate soil bins has always been a option toHm well there's always more than one way to go
This is roughly what I'd do:
I don't know the FFOF, but assuming it's a ready-to-go potting soil, I wouldn't amend with nutrients to start with, as it's loaded up anyways for a few weeks.
Worm castings yes! Start getting the biology going.
And then make aerated wormcast teas and keep adding microorganisms that way (maybe 2-3 times during the grow, and foliar it too, so the upper plant parts have good microbial protection).
Probably a topdressing half ways through the grow, and after that, you start reamending.
calliandra
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Yeah, check on what guano you have though - AFAIK there are different kinds that have different compositions.
Yeah basically, check out Tim Wilson's info too microbeorganics.com
calliandra
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Ah you've already started!
Ah then just make AACT and foliar & water with that a few times.
It will get things started
yungkodama
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Will do we have some nice local shop called eco grow and they are like a organic forum in a store they have alot of stuff. Natural korean farming ingredients and trace minerals and much more so I willigo and ask for some high N guano and plenty of castings for my big bag if soil and try to keep my main soil base at a well balanced npk mix and then add heavier N or P or K mixes depending on which stage im in