Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Midwest Weedist

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Anyone seen any adverse effects from using solely spring water? Now that it's winter in the Midwest I don't source my water from nature and my local grocery store sells 2.5 gallons of spring water (says it only has 2% ca) cheaper than their distilled and r/o, odd I know. My only thought is that in the long run I could run into a toxicity as my mix is in no way short on calcium. It's actually a bit hotter than I wanted originally but oh well.

Also, it's been long time since I've dropped in. It's nice to "see" everyone again!
 

kkt3

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Any thoughts on black gold castings yeah yeah store bought. But I can get 1 cu ft locally for $15 and a bag of Bu's blend compost for $12. I think that's 1.5 cu ft.


I've never even used anything from black gold. I did get a free lighter and drink cozy from their booth at maxum yield expo.
Hyroot I use black gold products all the time. They do the job very well!!
 

DonBrennon

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Just been re-potting my main Blueberry mother and 3 possible future mothers, they're looking a little rough at the mo, cos they produced around 40 cuttings between them 8 days ago
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Back row L-R, Greenhouse seeds Trainwreck, Barneys farm Critical kush and Humbolt seeds Purple Trainwreck. Think I'm gona run 2 of each for the next run in my main tent, bored of my monoculture.

Here's the cuts, done using fresh aloe vera, I'm expecting the first roots within the next few days(they're not all for me).
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These are some experimental Bubblegum x Blueberry seeds, which were caused by a rogue male flower going undetected in a friends flowering room, both were from my cuttings so I consider them to be my cross(both were real stinky and good producers too, so the outcome should be interesting) pmsl
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They were last topped around a week ago and are recovering nicely, I'm not sure whether to just let them go another week give em a good clean up and flip them, or top them again to get 16 tops each which would prob add anothor 2 week veg time
 

DonBrennon

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What a difference a day makes..................oh, and the AACT I gave them on sunday. I think I may have been a little heavy with the alfalfa on re-amend and didn't cook the soil out long enough. Got yellow tips on the leaves showing nute burn, but I think they're getting over it now. I think the one front left is a male, it's just so different from the others.
 

Midwest Weedist

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I like RO because I'm concerned about mineral buildup. Ca and Mg. Soil has plenty. Amendments have plenty.

If recycling / no-till that's a concern IMHO.

Also, if using drip lines (blumats) they clog. RO keeps it clean.
Same sort of thinking I've been having, thanks for the input!
 

Midwest Weedist

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I only use alfalfa in nutrient teas during veg. It has triactinol in it, which promotes foliage growth. I don't use it in soil mixes or during flower anymore for that reason. You end up with very leafy plants.
I've got a plant that's been throwing out branches with 3 and 4 nodes, do you think an alfalfa heavy mix could cause this?
 

DonBrennon

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I've got a plant that's been throwing out branches with 3 and 4 nodes, do you think an alfalfa heavy mix could cause this?
I had a bubblegum plant do this last run, it ended up with polypoid buds which were big and beautiful, although a little odd to look at and smelled fantastic, but the smoke ain't great by a long shot. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think it was caused by nute burn/nitrogen toxicity in the early growth stage. It's also happened to a mate of mine, but his also hermed and pollinted most of his tent, I think his was compounded by environmental issues as well though.
 

elkamino

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I only use alfalfa in nutrient teas during veg. It has triactinol in it, which promotes foliage growth. I don't use it in soil mixes or during flower anymore for that reason. You end up with very leafy plants.
Wow, I'm experiencing that right now, didn't know what it was and I believe you ID'd my problem. THANK YOU. :)

Anyone know how long-lasting Triacontanol is in soil? I run 5- or 7-gal pots of a ROLS very similar to Coots. Last remix included alfalfa meal for the first time, 1c per CF, I believe.

Since they've been in the newly ammended soil I've noticed the JTRs are more leafy than on previous runs. Also the leaves are SMALLER, and don't like that! I thought it was just a result of heavy LSTing- more budsites/leaves on same root might mean smaller leaves? But now I wonder if its the alfalfa?

The girls have been in the 7 gals for a week and I'm just about to flip to 12-12. Think I should stall and give the Triacontanol time to deplete before I enter flower? Or proceed on schedule? This is a personal grow and no rush, so I have flexibility in timing if needed. :joint:
 

nvhak49

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Has anyone use mung beans for a SST during flower it has lots of good flowering nutes and lots of other minerals?
 

Mary's Confidant

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I just purchased all of the ingredients to attempt ROLS.

I purchased:


I've read through a lot of the thread but still uncertain what a good starting mix should entail. Anyone want to take a shot at relative amounts to mix together?
Just reposting this to see if anyone would take a stab at a good mix with the ingredients above?
 

Kind Sir

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I only use alfalfa in nutrient teas during veg. It has triactinol in it, which promotes foliage growth. I don't use it in soil mixes or during flower anymore for that reason. You end up with very leafy plants.
Thats a good thought I didnt realize that. Its hard to use everyones info, until you find out for yourself IMO. I can have this compost, and rice hull potting soil shipped super cheap. Opinions on the leaf compost?

http://www.hsugrowingsupply.com/compost-soils/leaf-compost
 
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