Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[GreenSanta]

If you are having issues making a good ACT, know that patience is a good substitute. I have not used ACTs forever now and my soil is getting better. ACTs are not necessary when using high quality compost in your soil mix.

 

[nvhak49]

This is magnesium defcentcey correct? What's a good to help with it, I know Epsom salt works well but I've read mixed things about putting into ROLS I don't wanna kill off my microbes. I could use it as a foliar spray tho?

 

[nvhak49]

This is magnesium defcentcey correct? What's a good way to fix this, I've read mixed things about using Epsom salts in living soils and I don't want to kill off my microbes could I use it a foliar spray and it wouldn't do any harm or is there better stuff?

 

[Kind Sir]

I was looking to buy a few items, opinions?

Bioag fulpower - was told this is very beneficial when using SST/Enzymes?
Tm7
Durolux 4ft 8bulb T5HO - Mixture of bulbs

 

[ShLUbY]

yes foliar is best for mg def. epsom salts and kelp should help you out.

 

[nvhak49]

yes foliar is best for mg def. epsom salts and kelp should help you out.

I sprayed them Epsom salt yesterday, I'll probably spray them again with some kelp tea tomorrow or the next day, I wanna get my GG#4 mother back to good health.
Thanks @ShLUbY

 

[hyroot]

Anyone else dump their ash tray into their bins or soil mixes. I have for a while. I don't know why I never thought to bring it up. It's not complete ash. But it's only from flowers I've grown. Nothing else. Whether it's ash , plant material or some sort of char.

I just try to recycle or find another use for everything.





I'm bored obviously lol

 

[GreenSanta]

lol hyroot, anything from the grow room can be recycled in ROLS, floor sweep = mulch lol

I am about to start a true ROLS container, or 2, I am looking to build something like a raised bed that would be 2'x2'x16" on wheels. Anyone has any reference or DIY tutorial for the best cheapest options?

Thanks.

 

[Kind Sir]

I mixed my soil together, its been 6 days and it has a decent amount of (I believe its mycellium?) growing on it. I didnt add my lava rock yet, im going to run it over today and add it. Is it ok to mix everything up? I only made 1CuFt so it dries out quickly even with a top on, Ive been adding water without mixing it.

 

[DonBrennon]

Rols Blueberry 39 days since flip, coming on nice, just starting to notice a bit of fade in the fan leaves

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[DonPetro]

Rols Blueberry 39 days since flip, coming on nice, just starting to notice a bit of fade in the fan leaves

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Looking killer, Don!

 

[Mary's Confidant]

I just purchased all of the ingredients to attempt ROLS.

I purchased:

• 3.8 CF or ProMix HP
• Azomite
• Crab Meal
• Kelp meal
• Diatomaceous earth
• Root Naturally Sea-90 Ocean Mineral Organic Fertilizer
  
• Neem Seed meal
• 1 cu. ft. of growstone
• multiple coir bricks
• 15 lbs of worm casting
• mushroom compost
• composted manure

I've read through a lot of the thread but still uncertain what a good starting mix should entail. Anyone want to take a shot at relative amounts to mix together?

 

[GreenSanta]

sorry why DE? kinda useless on pest when its wet and if its dry it becomes dangerous for your lungs

 

[SahTiva]

My first run at soil web gardening:
Needless to say I wont be going back.

 

[Mad Hamish]

If you are having issues making a good ACT, know that patience is a good substitute. I have not used ACTs forever now and my soil is getting better. ACTs are not necessary when using high quality compost in your soil mix.

I second this motion! Grow the soil not the plants! I have never been happier, two years or more building and cycling my soil. COMPOSTING. YeEAaH BaBy!

 

[Mad Hamish]

Yields are getting ridiculously big. ROLS ftw. Hit just over a gram per watt with this girl last run. She has a way to go still but I think we will do better this time around. I mean look at the bag size lmfao... Just keep building the soil... composting everything possible... and keeping the worms happy!

 

[Mary's Confidant]

sorry why DE? kinda useless on pest when its wet and if its dry it becomes dangerous for your lungs

If you are asking me, I though many people were suggesting to add it to the soil mix or did I misread something? Either way, does anyone have suggestions or should I mix the coir and peat, then do the typical 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 before addending with the supplements. I also have bone and blood meal, found them on sale at a local store.

 

[nvhak49]

This my first attempt at ROLS and scrog and I'm loving them both. I've never grow such healthy plants before and it's by far the easiest way to grow I can't wait to see what I can yields and the quality of them. I'll get some better pictures under normal lights soon.

 

[nvhak49]

Question for the long time ROLS folks, would General organics calmag kill off microbes or be bad for the living soil in anyway, I haven't bought any and don't really want too, but it would be nice to fix cal mag def quickly unless there's better stuff. I ask cuz a guy in a different thread was using it in his ROLS.

 

[GreenSanta]

Question for the long time ROLS folks, would General organics calmag kill off microbes or be bad for the living soil in anyway, I haven't bought any and don't really want too, but it would be nice to fix cal mag def quickly unless there's better stuff. I ask cuz a guy in a different thread was using it in his ROLS.

Due to lack of time to source proper amendments, I have been using it sporadically in week 2 to 5-6 of flower depending on strain, and or what the plants look like. Having the proper ratio of available calcium to magnesium in the soil helps stabilize the ph and make all other nutrients available.

I prefer not to use it, but for the time being, it makes sense for me. I use at half dosage or less, this little amount of synthetic should not affect microbes population. As far I know, there isnt really an cal-mag organic equivalent that can be use for ''quick fix''

ultimately you want to make sure to have the proper amendments in your soil to break down like gypsum, lime ... and then you should never have to use synthetic cal-mag.

I have been debating ''to use'' or ''not to use'' cal-mag and only broke down again recently after over a year of not using it. When I get around to mix soil for a big ROLS pot I will address the situation, but Id appreciate more input on the topic and I welcome your question nvhak49!

 

[nvhak49]

Due to lack of time to source proper amendments, I have been using it sporadically in week 2 to 5-6 of flower depending on strain, and or what the plants look like. Having the proper ratio of available calcium to magnesium in the soil helps stabilize the ph and make all other nutrients available.

I prefer not to use it, but for the time being, it makes sense for me. I use at half dosage or less, this little amount of synthetic should not affect microbes population. As far I know, there isnt really an cal-mag organic equivalent that can be use for ''quick fix''

ultimately you want to make sure to have the proper amendments in your soil to break down like gypsum, lime ... and then you should never have to use synthetic cal-mag.

I have been debating ''to use'' or ''not to use'' cal-mag and only broke down again recently after over a year of not using it. When I get around to mix soil for a big ROLS pot I will address the situation, but Id appreciate more input on the topic and I welcome your question nvhak49!

Thanks for your answer too man, it makes sense. I'll try my hardest to not have to buy it with Epsom salts and kelp meal and top dress with some oyster flower and gypsum to help balance the soil pH cuz I'm sure that's the problem I'm having. Cuz there should be enough mag in the soil since I bought a pre mix kit of nutes from buildasoil and left it cool for 30 days minimum

 

[GreenSanta]

when in doubts, I just ride it out, with straight water until harvest. the weed always comes out stellar anyway, in fact my plants that look like trash the most at harvest usually smoke the nicest. I might just be losing a bit on yield but I save on time and energy spent thinking about it. The life cycle of the plant is so short, once in flower, if you see a problem, its already too late to fix imo. I never ph but before you do anything else than water you might want to look at the ph.

 

[Mad Hamish]

CalMag is no danger in ROLS. It will not kill off your micro herd. However it will be a mobile amendment as far ad your soil is concerned meaning if you recycle soil into a natural environment your CalMag will leech out the soil and eventually hit your water table which from an environmental point of view is exactly what we are working against.

All votes for amending properly but if your ladies are in need GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED.

I would simply encourage you to not recycle the soil into a system that allows runoff onto natural ground. But this has nothing to do with the effect on your plants.